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BirdieMachine 02-07-2015 09:55 PM

Bard
 
Has been approved

21.7 = 180 max weight
1.3 rim depth
1.5 rim width
42.50 rim conf.

5/4/0/3 Flight numbers

Looks like a competitor for the Verdict.

http://www.westside.fi/midranges/bard

DougCrawford 02-07-2015 09:58 PM

Oooooo would like to see a profile shot.

onemilemore 02-07-2015 09:58 PM

This is definitely a need in the Westside lineup. I don't throw a lot of OS stuff, but I'll be curious to hear reviews and see if the numbers hold up.

skizzle34 02-07-2015 11:05 PM

My buddy is a sponsored by trilogy and said the bard is where it's at. He took verdicts out of his bag for it.

Monkeypaws 02-07-2015 11:57 PM

Cool - I always look forward to Westside's March 1 releases. Bard, Seer and Sampo will fill some big gaps in their lineup.

thatdirtykid 02-08-2015 01:02 AM

I have been wanting to try a verdict, and was told I may like the bard later. I will wait for production runs. I doubt either will be it, what I really want is easily found buzzz on the stable end of the spectrum, ideally with better wind resistance...

gerth_vader 02-08-2015 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thatdirtykid (Post 2693514)
I have been wanting to try a verdict, and was told I may like the bard later. I will wait for production runs. I doubt either will be it, what I really want is easily found buzzz on the stable end of the spectrum, ideally with better wind resistance...

sounds like a suspect :p

really looking forward to the bard, though I wish it was small diameter

tomte 02-08-2015 01:59 AM

Nice, I'm waiting for my local store to get lucid verdicts in a reasonable weight for quite some time. Maybe this solves itself now...
Anyone got some pictures?

BirdieMachine 02-08-2015 10:07 AM

I really love the Verdict so I'm not sure if I'm going to run out a grab a Bard right away. I also got heavy Opto's, so, yeah. Still great to see more options from Westside none the less.

JC17393 02-08-2015 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DougCrawford (Post 2693397)
Oooooo would like to see a profile shot.

Here you go.

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums...1&d=1423405390

pecosROB 02-08-2015 10:26 AM

I'm a sucker for rainbow stamps and I saw someone post on Instagram the other day a rainbow stamp Bard. Frickin' a, it was a thing of beauty!!

AzteC 02-08-2015 03:53 PM

dome

Flip Hyzerman 02-08-2015 04:59 PM

The Bard is much more Roc feeling than the Verdict ... higher profile, deeper, more dome. A little slower, slows down quicker, more obvious feeling bead (at least to me), flys a little slower to me but perhaps a bit more LSS than the Verdict. If I had been throwing Rancho Rocs and were getting into Lat/DD/WS - this would be the disc I'd probably gravitate towards; I've always preferred lower profile, flatter, and smaller beads so the Verdict is more my thing. For me the Bard is a 4.5/4.5/0/3 - while a typical Opto Verdict is 5/4.5/0/2.5 and the Prototype Verdicts flying more like 5/4.5/0/2. Based on early feedback from people I think the Bard is going to be popular - particularly with people just coming into the brand.

geoloseth 02-08-2015 08:16 PM

Got to throw a couple of them today. I can say that from the limited time with them they seem to be what I am hoping for. A little deeper than the verdict and more stable all around. They feel more like the Warship than the truth and it has a slight dome to it which feels better to me. I would compare the flight as being between the Wasp and the Drone. It's not quite as overstable as the drone which I think is a good thing. Can't wait until March to get these in the bag.

BirdieMachine 02-09-2015 08:32 AM

Dang, that Bard is one sexy beast. Nice to hear some reviews, Almost sounds like you could bag a Bard and Verdict. Especially since my Verdicts are starting to turn in a good headwind.

Monkeypaws 02-09-2015 12:04 PM

I hope they will stand up to a headwind.

DougCrawford 02-09-2015 12:11 PM

That looks nice- anyone know where I can purchase one?

Edit: just saw the release date. I'll be sure to grab one in march.

BrotherDave 02-09-2015 01:27 PM

That should be a nice OS complement to the Warship. :)

Toady84 02-09-2015 07:07 PM

Very cool, love that stamp.

DeLa-Loc654 02-12-2015 05:56 PM

Quote:

The Westside Bard is our first overstable midrange. Actually the Bard may be the most overstable midrange disc of all Trilogy family within speed classes 5-6. The Westside Bard will be released in VIP and Tournament plastics on 1 March 2015. Flight numbers are 5,4,0,3
http://www.pdga.com/announcements/we...s-trio-trilogy

AndyJB 02-12-2015 06:04 PM

Man, I thought my Buzzz OS was secure. Maybe not...

I'm pre-ordering this bad boy through Infinite Discs for sure.

World Eater 02-12-2015 06:22 PM

Bard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeLa-Loc654 (Post 2698236)
Quote:

Originally Posted by quote
The Westside Bard is our first overstable midrange. Actually the Bard may be the most overstable midrange disc of all Trilogy family within speed classes 5-6. The Westside Bard will be released in VIP and Tournament plastics on 1 March 2015. Flight numbers are 5,4,0,3 http://www.pdga.com/announcements/we...s-trio-trilogy


really? most overstable trilogy midrange in the speed class...

Somehow I have my doubts, but if this thing is more OS than a Trident I am booking a flight to Sweden so I can hug Tomas Ekstrom in person.

AndyJB 02-12-2015 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by World Eater (Post 2698251)
really? most overstable trilogy midrange in the speed class...

Somehow I have my doubts, but if this thing is more OS than a Trident I am booking a flight to Sweden so I can hug Tomas Ekstrom in person.

Ah, I hadn't thought of the old Trident. If the Bard is more OS than that, then it might not make the bag. Still trying it though.:hfive:

JC17393 02-12-2015 06:36 PM

Thanks to the 4+ feet of snow on the ground (and more on the way this weekend...yay), I haven't had a chance to test out the Bard yet. If the Inbounds numbers and charts are to be believed, though, the Bard won't have the sweeping "L" type shape to its flight like the Trident, but it seems pretty damn resistant to flying flat and straight let alone turning over.

DeLa-Loc654 02-12-2015 06:44 PM

I doubt that assessment ("most overstable midrange") includes the trident, because Trilogy considers that a fairway driver.

BirdieMachine 02-12-2015 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeLa-Loc654 (Post 2698269)
I doubt that assessment ("most overstable midrange") includes the trident, because Trilogy considers that a fairway driver.

Agreed, it isn't as overstable as a Trident. Trident is mislabeled as speed 5. Really, speed 7.

frasnow 02-12-2015 07:27 PM

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/def...?itok=80bcZChp

Monkeypaws 02-12-2015 07:28 PM

Yeah, no way a 1.9 rim is a mid. Trident doesn't feel like a mid in the hand either.

Looks like it wants to fade at high speed almost more than low speed. Interesting looking flight chart.

It will be interesting to see, given that claim, how it compares to a Verdict.

DeLa-Loc654 02-12-2015 07:31 PM

Can anyone compare their findings with the Inbounds chart?

Monkeypaws 02-12-2015 07:36 PM

Just saw these are up for pre-order at Infinite, along with the Seer and Swan Reborn.

World Eater 02-12-2015 07:46 PM

flight compared to a lucid Verdict :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXkeoGcGx1c

seems like its in the same ballpark.

AndyJB 02-12-2015 08:05 PM

if anyone is pre-ordering this (or the Seer or Swan Reborn) PM me for a discount code for Infinite Discs!

chrisoz 02-16-2015 04:34 PM

Tossed my max weight VIP Bard with my max weight Champ Roc3s in no wind and while HSS was similar, noticed a pronounced stronger fade with the Bard (duh). I then tossed them two days later into a pretty stiff (15mph) headwind and noticed a marked HSS difference. The Roc3's turned over at 300' of power and barely came out of the turn before landing, the Bard held a straight line and showed a slight low speed fade. This is definitely a nice, shorter compliment to the trident, with the ability to overpower for a slightly "straighter" flight. Both are in the bag now.

AndyJB 02-16-2015 04:37 PM

Pre-ordered a VIP and a TP from Infinite today. I'll be doing a review video for Hucking Aces with these. I'll throw them against a Buzzzz OS and a Champ Gator. Any other requests?

Monkeypaws 02-16-2015 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisoz (Post 2701475)
Tossed my max weight VIP Bard with my max weight Champ Roc3s in no wind and while HSS was similar, noticed a pronounced stronger fade with the Bard (duh). I then tossed them two days later into a pretty stiff (15mph) headwind and noticed a marked HSS difference. The Roc3's turned over at 300' of power and barely came out of the turn before landing, the Bard held a straight line and showed a slight low speed fade. This is definitely a nice, shorter compliment to the trident, with the ability to overpower for a slightly "straighter" flight. Both are in the bag now.

Man, that sounds great. Will definitely pick one of these up.:clap:

Hoss22 02-16-2015 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyJB (Post 2701481)
Pre-ordered a VIP and a TP from Infinite today. I'll be doing a review video for Hucking Aces with these. I'll throw them against a Buzzzz OS and a Champ Gator. Any other requests?

An in depth comparison from feel to flight of the Verdict would be really nice. That's what I'm mainly wondering about. But, perhaps an opto mace, drone, or hornet? Don't want to throw to many discs out there, lol. Just the ones I know very well. But, my curiosity is mainly with the verdict, buzzz os, and opto mace.

AndyJB 02-16-2015 07:05 PM

Okie dokie. I have a Drone, so I'll pick up a Verdict or a Mace, whichever I can find easier around here.

DeLa-Loc654 02-16-2015 07:25 PM

Yeah I'd be interested in how the speed of the Bard compares to the Verdict. The verdict is definitely a fast mid, which has made me, personally, avoid it. I was surprised to see that the Bard also has a 1.5 cm rim like the Verdict, where as something like the Mace has (I think) a 1.3 cm rim. Of course the profile of the Bard looks pretty different from that of the Verdict, so I wouldn't be surprised if it were slower.

Hoss22 02-16-2015 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeLa-Loc654 (Post 2701634)
Yeah I'd be interested in how the speed of the Bard compares to the Verdict. The verdict is definitely a fast mid, which has made me, personally, avoid it. I was surprised to see that the Bard also has a 1.5 cm rim like the Verdict, where as something like the Mace has (I think) a 1.3 cm rim. Of course the profile of the Bard looks pretty different from that of the Verdict, so I wouldn't be surprised if it were slower.

Yea, that's what I'm thinking. I think the Bard is going to be a slower Verdict, so I'm thinking max weight Opto Mace status.

BirdieMachine 02-16-2015 08:19 PM

It's a little deeper inside also, 1.3 rim depth vs 1.2. Bard should be slower then the Verdict. Plus some dome will also slow it down, Verdicts are pretty board flat.


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