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sgamerp 07-23-2013 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyMittenDG (Post 2091893)
Yeah. Reviews before baskets shouldnt count. Gives the course no chance of goin anywhere on this website. #SadTruth

They shouldn't add a course to the course list if it doesn't have baskets.

davetherocketguy 07-23-2013 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sgamerp (Post 2095771)
They shouldn't add a course to the course list if it doesn't have baskets.

Isn't there a way to add a course but to have it in like a "closed" status? I think I've seen this before.

I can understand wanting to list a course ASAP - even before baskets are in to generate interest but if there is no way to stop people from posting reviews before it's complete then it seems a little pointless....

BogeyNoMore 07-23-2013 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by thiswonisloaded (Post 2094539)
Belle Isle is putting in the permanent baskets today and will be ready to be played tomorrow!

All I can say is, "Damn, they better mow that course," otherwise, you're really gonna be playing safari golf.

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Originally Posted by davetherocketguy (Post 2095774)
I can understand wanting to list a course ASAP - even before baskets are in to generate interest but if there is no way to stop people from posting reviews before it's complete then it seems a little pointless...

Agreed, what's the point? Everyone wants to make a splash... "Look at me!"

sgamerp 07-23-2013 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BogeyNoMore (Post 2095900)
All I can say is, "Damn, they better mow that course," otherwise, you're really gonna be playing safari golf.

sounds like london. :\

Future_Primitive 07-23-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by davetherocketguy (Post 2095774)
Isn't there a way to add a course but to have it in like a "closed" status? I think I've seen this before.

I can understand wanting to list a course ASAP - even before baskets are in to generate interest but if there is no way to stop people from posting reviews before it's complete then it seems a little pointless....

Looks like it is listed as "Unplayable" and in RED on this site. Guessing the two reviews are from people who helped work on the course, so there is going to be some bias with those early reviews.

Not sure how I feel about it, by rating it so high they could set themselves up to look bad if people come out there and are not immediately impressed with it. Kind of think it would be better to let some players not associated with the project make the first reviews. By throwing up that 5* review early they are almost asking to be critiqued harder by new visitors.

I hope it lives up to the hype it hasn't earned yet. :\

ru4por 07-23-2013 10:25 AM

Just got back from a couple "up north" disc golf swings. I had a chance to play in a tournament at Mt McSauba, in Charlovoix. It was their opening of this Epic ski hill course. I will try to do a brief review on DGS. Massive uphill holes and downhill bombs. Super tight technical wooded in between. A Hanson Hill type workout, but worth the hike. Fantastic views of Lake Michigan. Elevated and landscaped tees and pads. Votex baskets were catching machines. Long and shorts present very challenging pad and pin placements each. A little tough to navigate, but some play will create paths and the boys up there did a great job on temp signs. Some work to go out there, tee pads are currently being finished up, a few rough pads, a little trimming, permanent tee signs are all being finished up on this 19 hole monster. Don't miss this course. Huge thank you to all the guys up there putting in the hours and work. A course of this magnitude and elevation present additional challenges to the already daunting task of course installation. Between Boyne, Avalanche, Petoskey and the Traverse City offerings, this is a premier disc golf destination.

apparition 07-23-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 2096027)
Just got back from a couple "up north" disc golf swings. I had a chance to play in a tournament at Mt McSauba, in Charlovoix. It was their opening of this Epic ski hill course. I will try to do a brief review on DGS. Massive uphill holes and downhill bombs. Super tight technical wooded in between. A Hanson Hill type workout, but worth the hike. Fantastic views of Lake Michigan. Elevated and landscaped tees and pads. Votex baskets were catching machines. Long and shorts present very challenging pad and pin placements each. A little tough to navigate, but some play will create paths and the boys up there did a great job on temp signs. Some work to go out there, tee pads are currently being finished up, a few rough pads, a little trimming, permanent tee signs are all being finished up on this 19 hole monster. Don't miss this course. Huge thank you to all the guys up there putting in the hours and work. A course of this magnitude and elevation present additional challenges to the already daunting task of course installation. Between Boyne, Avalanche, Petoskey and the Traverse City offerings, this is a premier disc golf destination.

Is the course officially open? I'm really excited for this one. Such a perfect spot.

ru4por 07-23-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by apparition (Post 2096035)
Is the course officially open? I'm really excited for this one. Such a perfect spot.

According to Ric Evans, the baskets were staying in. Very playable. I think they are still working on where to park and bring golfers in. McSauba has some sort of summer camp with kids, at the lodge. They have a facebook thing, Chain 'O Lakes disc golf or something close to that. Sorry, don't do the facebook thing. I was able to touch base with him at time on DGS. I would think it is open for play.

KFrad 07-23-2013 11:04 AM

Lots of work has been done and the time is almost here.
http://detroit2020.com/2013/07/22/de...on-belle-isle/

nickrockey 07-23-2013 11:06 AM

Mt.McSauba Disc Golf Course in Charlevoix, Michigan
 
This course is AWESOME! 19 holes with 19 baskets installed. We had the 'soft' opening on July 20, 2013. All holes are playable, most with two sets of tees, temp signs are in and permanent signs are being worked on! The course is 100% playable. Awesome views of Lake Michigan, be prepared to hike! Tight lanes, dual lane options, elevation changes everywhere, incredible par 3 and 4's! Played it again yesterday and I am loving it! Still working on scorecards, benches and trash cans. Mixed tee's, some concrete, diamond dust, a few carpet, all play really well! This is a MUST PLAY course! Every hole has taken full advantage of the topography which makes hiking up and down these hills well worth it! The risk vs. reward here is unmatched on some of the holes! Play's best with a partner or someone to spot on a few of the holes. Really easy to get to off US31, close to a few gas stations. Park down the dirt road where the swimmers park, that's hole 1, try not to park at the clubhouse.

BogeyNoMore 07-23-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenThrower (Post 2095937)
Looks like it is listed as "Unplayable" and in RED on this site. Guessing the two reviews are from people who helped work on the course, so there is going to be some bias with those early reviews.

Not sure how I feel about it, by rating it so high they could set themselves up to look bad if people come out there and are not immediately impressed with it. Kind of think it would be better to let some players not associated with the project make the first reviews. By throwing up that 5* review early they are almost asking to be critiqued harder by new visitors.

I hope it lives up to the hype it hasn't earned yet. :\

^this... course might be great, might not be, might be somewhere in the middle but I agree with you 100% These ratings wreak of homeboy, "that's my baby," bias. :\

nickrockey 07-23-2013 11:09 AM

It is open with 19 baskets installed.

apparition 07-23-2013 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by nickrockey (Post 2096115)
This course is AWESOME! 19 holes with 19 baskets installed. We had the 'soft' opening on July 20, 2013. All holes are playable, most with two sets of tees, temp signs are in and permanent signs are being worked on! The course is 100% playable. Awesome views of Lake Michigan, be prepared to hike! Tight lanes, dual lane options, elevation changes everywhere, incredible par 3 and 4's! Played it again yesterday and I am loving it! Still working on scorecards, benches and trash cans. Mixed tee's, some concrete, diamond dust, a few carpet, all play really well! This is a MUST PLAY course! Every hole has taken full advantage of the topography which makes hiking up and down these hills well worth it! The risk vs. reward here is unmatched on some of the holes! Play's best with a partner or someone to spot on a few of the holes. Really easy to get to off US31, close to a few gas stations. Park down the dirt road where the swimmers park, that's hole 1, try not to park at the clubhouse.

I wish I would have known about the soft opening! On Sunday I was at a ball golf driving range throwing discs wishing a course was closer and wondering when McSauba was gonna open. I had heard there was a disc golf tournament going on as part of Venetian Fest, but I thought it was a fundraiser or something for the course. I guess I should have done my homework!

eleven eighteen 07-24-2013 12:16 PM

Anyone ever hear anything about a new course in the Ypsilanti/Belleville/Romulus area? A guy I worked with found it listed in an app (UDisc or Discasaurus I think) last year. Pretty sure it was at a ball golf course. He called them and they said it would be opening this summer.

I haven't heard anything more about it, don't work with the guy anymore, and can't get those apps on my phone so can't check myself. I've tried doing some Googling but haven't had any luck.

BogeyNoMore 07-24-2013 12:29 PM

^ Are you sure that's not old info regarding Ponds at Lakeshore? It's on an old bolf course.

I haven't heard of anything since Hamburg, but PM'd Innovadude to see if he knows what's up with that - he's pretty plugged in.

waddleman 07-24-2013 12:34 PM

Anybody heard anything about the 2nd course Rolling Hills is putting in? I heard some buzz about it in the spring, but since then it's been quiet.

ru4por 07-24-2013 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by waddleman (Post 2098095)
Anybody heard anything about the 2nd course Rolling Hills is putting in? I heard some buzz about it in the spring, but since then it's been quiet.

I would think they could fund a new course with the bags of PBR and Natural Light cans on this course. :p Sorry, I think it would be great to get another course in here, though the price is a bit steep for my taste.

BogeyNoMore 07-24-2013 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by waddleman (Post 2098095)
Anybody heard anything about the 2nd course Rolling Hills is putting in? I heard some buzz about it in the spring, but since then it's been quiet.

^your post is the first I've heard, but Ypsi's a bit of a schlep from my house.

...but that'd be another good question for Innovdude.

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 2098106)
I would think they could fund a new course with the bags of PBR and Natural Light cans on this course. :p Sorry, I think it would be great to get another course in here, though the price is a bit steep for my taste.

Agreed, the $9/day park entry fee for non-Washtenaw County residents it steep, but it'd sting less if you could make a day of it by playing 2 courses (a'la Hudson Mills). Throw in Indy Lake for a triple play and $9/day is a bargain. Bring a couple of friends and you're paying a measly $1 a round, each.

eleven eighteen 07-24-2013 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BogeyNoMore (Post 2098092)
^ Are you sure that's not old info regarding Ponds at Lakeshore? It's on an old bolf course.

Yeah, definitely not Lakeshore. I think he was actually looking up the # for Lakeshore to check the hours on the Throw Shop when he noticed the new course listing. He said he spoke to a woman and she said it wasn't open yet - this was probably late last August or so - but would be this summer. Even if he'd just messed up and called The Throw Shop they wouldn't have said that. I heard his half of the conversation, too, so it's not like he was making this up. It seemed the ball golf course was still operational, too.

He told me the name of the place but I can't remember it. Maybe I should just start calling all the ball golf courses in the area....

eleven eighteen 07-24-2013 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by waddleman (Post 2098095)
Anybody heard anything about the 2nd course Rolling Hills is putting in? I heard some buzz about it in the spring, but since then it's been quiet.

Years ago I heard they were gonna expand the existing course to 24 holes. Thought they were actually doing some work in the woods for it. Obviously didn't happen and I've never heard that again.

I've definitely never heard anything about a 2nd course. That would be awesome, though! I don't get there enough even though I'm only a few miles away...often too crowded for my tastes. A second course may help with that a bit.

I just sent them a message on Facebook. We'll see what they say.

ru4por 07-24-2013 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BogeyNoMore (Post 2098108)
^Agreed, the $9/day park entry fee for non-Washtenaw County residents it steep, but it'd sting less if you could make a day of it by playing 2 courses (a'la Hudson Mills). Throw in Indy Lake for a triple play and $9/day is a bargain. Bring a couple of friends and you're paying a measly $1 a round, each.

Yup, same with Addison. All good courses, usually load up one vehicle with a crew and make it a day with a grill and a cooler. Not really complaining, there is no such thing as too expensive for disc golf in my world. :hfive:

DirtyMittenDG 07-25-2013 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 2098119)
Yup, same with Addison. All good courses, usually load up one vehicle with a crew and make it a day with a grill and a cooler. Not really complaining, there is no such thing as too expensive for disc golf in my world. :hfive:

Yea, non-resident prices suck in SE Michigan. But that's the park fee it self. At least your playing disc golf when you pay, and not just going for a walk to look at birds like a lot of people do. :p

DirtyMittenDG 07-25-2013 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by waddleman (Post 2098095)
Anybody heard anything about the 2nd course Rolling Hills is putting in? I heard some buzz about it in the spring, but since then it's been quiet.


Stardoggy 07-25-2013 08:30 AM

Question. We live near Sheboygan, WI, and are trying to figure our next road trip, which will be to MI. It's a horse a piece going south around the lake or north through the UP.

Which direction is going to give us the better selection of courses? We're thinking UP, down through the western edges of the state, then back over and taking the ferry back home. Not worried about the Ann Arbor/Ypsilanti area, as my stepson lives over there, and I'll knock those courses out in due time. I guess what I'm asking, are there any courses in the southwestern part of the state that are must plays?

davetherocketguy 07-25-2013 08:44 AM

First, I would seriously reconsider taking the ferry in Ludington. It is extremely expensive and time consuming. If you go the southerly route you aren't going to be too far from Lemon Lake, Rodger Lakewood, Shore Acres, Flip City. In Ludington there is the Beast, Leviathan, Beauty and another one on that property. If you can spare the time I would go all the way around if were you. If you make a stop in the Berrien county area I can make recommendations on where to stay, eat, etc. since that's where I live.

davetherocketguy 07-25-2013 08:52 AM

Also, there is a new course in Holland called Macatawa Greenspace I think and so far it looks pretty good. I guess if you go the northerly route there isn't as much disc golf but the scenery is better. However there are some great courses. The southerly route the drive isn't too bad but the concentration of courses is a little higher. Kind of depends on what you are after on this trip.

Stardoggy 07-25-2013 09:24 AM

We were considering a full loop, but want to make sure there's enough courses to make it worthwhile. We'd probably just camp locally to save funds, and it would probably be a Friday morning-Sunday night type trip.

I had heard the ferry was expensive, and to be completely honest, I'd rather just hit as many courses as possible.

Stardoggy 07-25-2013 09:27 AM

Flip City is a must...the Ludington area sounds pretty darn good, as well. We'd just have to make sure to leave early enough to beat Chicago traffic.

sgamerp 07-25-2013 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Stardoggy (Post 2099371)
Flip City is a must...the Ludington area sounds pretty darn good, as well. We'd just have to make sure to leave early enough to beat Chicago traffic.

ten bucks a person to camp at flip. Well wroth doing, may want to call or e-mail bill first. Ludington is good. Shore Acres if you are coming up that side. then going to traverse city.

Future_Primitive 07-25-2013 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by waddleman (Post 2098095)
Anybody heard anything about the 2nd course Rolling Hills is putting in? I heard some buzz about it in the spring, but since then it's been quiet.

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Originally Posted by eleven eighteen (Post 2098118)
Years ago I heard they were gonna expand the existing course to 24 holes. Thought they were actually doing some work in the woods for it. Obviously didn't happen and I've never heard that again.

I've definitely never heard anything about a 2nd course. That would be awesome, though! I don't get there enough even though I'm only a few miles away...often too crowded for my tastes. A second course may help with that a bit.

I just sent them a message on Facebook. We'll see what they say.

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Originally Posted by DirtyMittenDG (Post 2099084)

Looks like DirtyMittenDG found the video Foz posted for the expansion at Rolling Hills. I first heard about it maybe 2 weeks ago, I showed up just as Ypsi Dubs was ending on a Sunday and there was talk about it. Heard chatter about the quad-copter video Foz shot but never saw it (thanks Dirty). Going to be a 2nd course, didn't get the hole count though. :clap:

apparition 07-25-2013 10:46 AM

I just put together this map of the top 25 courses in Michigan. Check it out!

http://goo.gl/maps/cwS11

davetherocketguy 07-25-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Stardoggy (Post 2099371)
Flip City is a must...the Ludington area sounds pretty darn good, as well. We'd just have to make sure to leave early enough to beat Chicago traffic.

Some of the State parks are nice to camp in but are hard to get reservations. Ludington state park is gorgeous. It's nice for me because they are pretty strict on noise after 11pm. Bath room facilities are so so and the big downside is I don't think there is any drinking allowed at state parks.

sgamerp 07-25-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by apparition (Post 2099517)
I just put together this map of the top 25 courses in Michigan. Check it out!

http://goo.gl/maps/cwS11

if you go to 17 make sure to get a beer at founders, if you go to 19 make sure to get a beer from bells.

Stardoggy 07-25-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by davetherocketguy (Post 2099526)
Some of the State parks are nice to camp in but are hard to get reservations. Ludington state park is gorgeous. It's nice for me because they are pretty strict on noise after 11pm. Bath room facilities are so so and the big downside is I don't think there is any drinking allowed at state parks.

Vodka/lemonade in a large cooler is always a nice way to get around that problem.

Stardoggy 07-25-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by apparition (Post 2099517)
I just put together this map of the top 25 courses in Michigan. Check it out!

http://goo.gl/maps/cwS11

Awesome map!

The only course I've played in MI was The Ponds at Lakeshore, because it was closest to where I was staying. The course was pretty average, but the Throw Shop was awesome. Picked up a Grip Line Spike (OOP) and AJ Destroyer, which was nice. At some point I'll hit all those courses in that area.

Too bad there's not something really nice between Traverse City and Ludington. Maybe two trips in my future.

davetherocketguy 07-25-2013 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Stardoggy (Post 2099545)
Vodka/lemonade in a large cooler is always a nice way to get around that problem.

Lol...that's what I do or some other variation.

Future_Primitive 07-25-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by apparition (Post 2099517)
I just put together this map of the top 25 courses in Michigan. Check it out!

http://goo.gl/maps/cwS11

Not too bad, agree with most but noticed a couple of nice ones missing from the list.

Victory Park in Albion, MI is a great course.
Cold Brook Park in Climax, MI is another one I would put in my Top 25.

I was less than impressed with Cass Benton myself, would not make my list. Run down course with some obnoxious locals, IMO of course. But a solid listing none the less, thanks for putting this together as there are some I have yet to play so this will help! :clap:

sgamerp 07-25-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenThrower (Post 2099609)
Not too bad, agree with most but noticed a couple of nice ones missing from the list.

Victory Park in Albion, MI is a great course.
Cold Brook Park in Climax, MI is another one I would put in my Top 25.

I was less than impressed with Cass Benton myself, would not make my list. Run down course with some obnoxious locals, IMO of course. But a solid listing none the less, thanks for putting this together as there are some I have yet to play so this will help! :clap:

Cold Brook > Oshtemo IMO

apdrvya 07-25-2013 12:00 PM

I think Vicksburg, Macatawa Greenspace and Goliath will make this list once they have enough reviews.

ru4por 07-25-2013 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by davetherocketguy (Post 2099526)
Some of the State parks are nice to camp in but are hard to get reservations. Ludington state park is gorgeous. It's nice for me because they are pretty strict on noise after 11pm. Bath room facilities are so so and the big downside is I don't think there is any drinking allowed at state parks.

Ludington is the state's busiest park. Most parks allow drinking with some rules, reservations are nearly impossible at this point in most parks, and the noise thing is an issue for sure. They proactively warn you and enforce like wardens. Rustic State Forest Campgrounds are a great option and private campgrounds (like the one across from Mason County in Ludington) are good as well.


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