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ru4por 08-09-2022 08:30 AM

Have any of you "up north" guys heard of this course? It is listed on UDisc and my nephews stumbled across it while camping in a county park on Pickerel Lake. They were reasonably impressed.

https://udisc.com/courses/camp-pet-o....376481&zoom=2

Bunsel 08-09-2022 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 3828819)
Have any of you "up north" guys heard of this course? It is listed on UDisc and my nephews stumbled across it while camping in a county park on Pickerel Lake. They were reasonably impressed.

https://udisc.com/courses/camp-pet-o....376481&zoom=2

Haven't heard of it, but I was looking for a course to play today in that direction so may hit it up!

MHaas 08-09-2022 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 3828819)
Have any of you "up north" guys heard of this course? It is listed on UDisc and my nephews stumbled across it while camping in a county park on Pickerel Lake. They were reasonably impressed.

https://udisc.com/courses/camp-pet-o....376481&zoom=2

This one is news to me too. My folks live in Harbor Springs and I spent my summers growing up on Crooked Lake. I usually just play Blissfest (great course) when I'm up there but I'll definitely check this one out next time we take the kiddos up to see the grandparents...

elmexdela 08-10-2022 02:08 PM

there is also some camp course called gitchegumee that i found on udisc

Bunsel 08-10-2022 06:19 PM

Supposedly Rocky Top is going to be up and running again with new baskets in the near future!

ru4por 08-10-2022 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bunsel (Post 3829276)
Supposedly Rocky Top is going to be up and running again with new baskets in the near future!

What and where is Rocky Top and how about some background, man!! :thmbup:

Bunsel 08-11-2022 07:28 AM

Just South of Charlevoix off of 31.

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=11631

wolfhaley 08-11-2022 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 3829284)
What and where is Rocky Top and how about some background, man!! :thmbup:

It was pretty fun when we played it last year. Definitely worth checking out if you're over that way.

Countchunkula 08-11-2022 02:24 PM

Any word on what's going on with Wild Haven?

I wasn't clear if they totally closed to the public after the social media nonsense or if they just de-listed the course. I'll be in the general area first half of next week and wanted to see if that course is even an option.

ru4por 08-11-2022 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Countchunkula (Post 3829482)
Any word on what's going on with Wild Haven?

I wasn't clear if they totally closed to the public after the social media nonsense or if they just de-listed the course. I'll be in the general area first half of next week and wanted to see if that course is even an option.

The courses are still listed on Disc Golf Scene. Mike has responded to a post on the comment page in the last couple days. Well worth the play. Bonus if Mike is around and can play. He is a terrific guy.

https://www.discgolfscene.com/course...esort/comments

Countchunkula 08-11-2022 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 3829490)
The courses are still listed on Disc Golf Scene. Mike has responded to a post on the comment page in the last couple days. Well worth the play. Bonus if Mike is around and can play. He is a terrific guy.

https://www.discgolfscene.com/course...esort/comments

Awesome! Thanks, RU!

Central Scrutinizer 08-11-2022 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Countchunkula (Post 3829482)
Any word on what's going on with Wild Haven?

I wasn't clear if they totally closed to the public after the social media nonsense or if they just de-listed the course. I'll be in the general area first half of next week and wanted to see if that course is even an option.

I'm real close with Wildman, have been playing Disc Golf with him since 1996. Right now it's back to $5/day, I think. There are directions on the sign when you get there; I think he wants a call or something. He's redoing the back "Little Bigfoot" course so it's not all playable (although I caught a glimpse of some wonderful clearing he's done on #1). The original "Yetisburg" course is playable and great, as always. I'll be there in about ten days to spend a couple of nights there with my son!

MI Hyzer Phlip 08-12-2022 01:53 AM

Looks like I played Wild Haven on 5/27/22, along with Chain Valley. First I had met Mike, and he was certainly accommodating. He mentioned having a tree crew in for trimming in July I believe, as a couple spots were getting bad. What a piece property he has there, and can see the camping option as a good one if he can get it back. Big boy golf out there.

Central Scrutinizer 08-12-2022 04:46 AM

Yeah, he struggled hard with having disrespectful *******s on his course for a little while. It was getting to him pretty badly. Lots of people trying to sneak on the course without paying the paltry five bucks (while carrying expensive energy drinks and whatnot). Really pisses him off, and I can't blame him.

MI Hyzer Phlip 08-12-2022 11:37 AM

Oh I would be so tilted, knowing how much work and grinding goes into making a place like Wild Haven.
I can only hope the Karma-Train is rolling there way. Be Respectful and leave no trace.

Melvin Herman 08-12-2022 12:32 PM

Whiskey Creek
 
Contacted Whiskey Creek DGC/Campground today. They stated that they have no plans of removing the course and are not sure why the rumor is floating around. She asked for me to dispel the rumor, fwiw.

ru4por 08-12-2022 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Melvin Herman (Post 3829726)
Contacted Whiskey Creek DGC/Campground today. They stated that they have no plans of removing the course and are not sure why the rumor is floating around. She asked for me to dispel the rumor, fwiw.

Thanks for digging into this a bit. It seems edmunder was the origin of this information. Maybe we will see him stop back and give some more insight. His profile states he is from Ludington. States is coming up. While I am not going, I will put a bug in a few guys ears to ask around as well.

BogeyNoMore 08-13-2022 12:35 PM

Just played all 18 holes at a very rough around the edges (and IMHO not quite ready to list), Sorensen Park DG Course - Holly, MI.
https://app.udisc.com/applink/course/34173

Very technical, woodsy course with moderate elevation on a few holes. Lots of shot shaping. The disc play itself is quite good if you don't mind bugs and spending time looking for holes. Rough is quite nasty if a shot really gets away from you.

Absolutely zero signage, and natural tees make it impossible to find your way around without U-Disc, but if you're read for a scavenger hunt, it is playable, albeit in a pretty "roughed in" kind of way. Makes attacking some holes the way you really want off the tee a bit of a dicey proposition. I threw a lot of mids and controlled fairway shots, content to just keep it in the fairway.

Local told me it was listed on UDisc hoping more traffic would help tame it faster. Glad I could help. :\

In its current state, I'd say its a 2.0'ish.
Decent tees, signage, clearing/mowing of a few fairways would bump it to the 3.0, 3.5 at best.

I think most players will be happier waiting to play this one. But it'll be a solid course once all that good stuff happens.

tomjulio 08-16-2022 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 3829744)
Thanks for digging into this a bit. It seems edmunder was the origin of this information. Maybe we will see him stop back and give some more insight. His profile states he is from Ludington. States is coming up. While I am not going, I will put a bug in a few guys ears to ask around as well.

The Whiskey Hills rumor has been circulating for the past year here. The details of the rumor are that the owners have never seen a return on their investment and have been in talks with mountain bike clubs around the state to make it into a bike course. I do know there has always been tension between the local club and Whiskey Hills since an incident going back to the State tournament many years ago. Repeating just the rumors I've heard, so don't take this as fact. While Whiskey is here, it's such a gem to play even though the owners have never invested into fixing the mangled tee pads on much of the course. It is truly the one thing that holds this course back from true greatness.

ru4por 08-16-2022 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BogeyNoMore (Post 3829951)
Just played all 18 holes at a very rough around the edges (and IMHO not quite ready to list), Sorensen Park DG Course - Holly, MI.
https://app.udisc.com/applink/course/34173

Very technical, woodsy course with moderate elevation on a few holes. Lots of shot shaping. The disc play itself is quite good if you don't mind bugs and spending time looking for holes. Rough is quite nasty if a shot really gets away from you.

Absolutely zero signage, and natural tees make it impossible to find your way around without U-Disc, but if you're read for a scavenger hunt, it is playable, albeit in a pretty "roughed in" kind of way. Makes attacking some holes the way you really want off the tee a bit of a dicey proposition. I threw a lot of mids and controlled fairway shots, content to just keep it in the fairway.

Local told me it was listed on UDisc hoping more traffic would help tame it faster. Glad I could help. :\

In its current state, I'd say its a 2.0'ish.
Decent tees, signage, clearing/mowing of a few fairways would bump it to the 3.0, 3.5 at best.

I think most players will be happier waiting to play this one. But it'll be a solid course once all that good stuff happens.

I missed this. The FTF's are talking about using this course for Michigan Amateur Open next year. Playing both Holly Woods and Sorenson. So, they might have plans to crush a bunch of the work before then?

BuiltTooLong 08-16-2022 10:44 AM

Played Duneberry Farms course a couple times while camping in Silver Lake area. Some really fun shots on this course and a decent variety of shapes for having zero elevation. Course plays fairly long for how compact the space they are working with is.

Several arrows pointing to the basket on every hole are helpful, but with one being an actual mando, are darn-right confusing at times. Pads are framed but not poured, but are easy enough to throw from. Worth checking out if you are in the area for sure.

ru4por 08-16-2022 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BuiltTooLong (Post 3830543)
Played Duneberry Farms course a couple times while camping in Silver Lake area. Some really fun shots on this course and a decent variety of shapes for having zero elevation. Course plays fairly long for how compact the space they are working with is.

Several arrows pointing to the basket on every hole are helpful, but with one being an actual mando, are darn-right confusing at times. Pads are framed but not poured, but are easy enough to throw from. Worth checking out if you are in the area for sure.

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=13315

DFrah 08-17-2022 10:04 PM

Just came across this article about a new course in the Muskegon area. I will check it out sometime this fall! https://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/...unty-park.html

tomjulio 08-18-2022 10:39 AM

This is a very juicy new West Michigan disc golf rumor working its way around the area right now. An entrepreneur who lives just north of Pen****er and south of Ludington is in the process of purchasing 45, yes FORTY FIVE, Discraft Chainstar Pro baskets to build two 18 hole courses and one 9 hole course on his property to create a mega disc golf course complex. These courses would be EXTREMELY close to the Mason County courses and aiming to be part of the State tourney in the near future. The courses are being designed by a well known course designer known for his pro-centric challenging layouts.

More details as they come in...

EDIT: Not sure why P-E-N-T-W-A-T-E-R was hilariously auto-censored. :)

BogeyNoMore 08-18-2022 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tomjulio (Post 3831054)
This is a very juicy new West Michigan disc golf rumor working its way around the area right now. An entrepreneur who lives just north of Pen****er and south of Ludington is in the process of purchasing 45, yes FORTY FIVE, Discraft Chainstar Pro baskets to build two 18 hole courses and one 9 hole course on his property to create a mega disc golf course complex. These courses would be EXTREMELY close to the Mason County courses and aiming to be part of the State tourney in the near future. The courses are being designed by a well known course designer known for his pro-centric challenging layouts.

More details as they come in...

EDIT: Not sure why P-E-N-T-W-A-T-E-R was hilariously auto-censored. :)

Lol at t+wat being censored.

tomjulio 08-18-2022 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tomjulio (Post 3831054)
This is a very juicy new West Michigan disc golf rumor working its way around the area right now. An entrepreneur who lives just north of Pen****er and south of Ludington is in the process of purchasing 45, yes FORTY FIVE, Discraft Chainstar Pro baskets to build two 18 hole courses and one 9 hole course on his property to create a mega disc golf course complex. These courses would be EXTREMELY close to the Mason County courses and aiming to be part of the State tourney in the near future. The courses are being designed by a well known course designer known for his pro-centric challenging layouts.

More details as they come in...

EDIT: Not sure why P-E-N-T-W-A-T-E-R was hilariously auto-censored. :)

Confirmed this just now with course designer. It will be a huge pro course with twin basket locations (36 baskets) and a separate family 9 hole course. It will be attached to a lakeside RV park that has elevation changes, dunes, and Lake Michigan views. Aiming to be "one of the best courses in the state."

ru4por 08-18-2022 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tomjulio (Post 3831064)
Confirmed this just now with course designer. It will be a huge pro course with twin basket locations (36 baskets) and a separate family 9 hole course. It will be attached to a lakeside RV park that has elevation changes, dunes, and Lake Michigan views. Aiming to be "one of the best courses in the state."

Because THAT area needs more..........................:confused: :mad: :p :hfive:

BogeyNoMore 08-18-2022 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 3831066)
Because THAT area needs more..........................:confused: :mad: :p :hfive:

The rich getting richer ain't a new concept.
This is just disc golf mirroring society.
:)

Nick Pacific 08-18-2022 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MI Hyzer Phlip (Post 3829606)
Looks like I played Wild Haven on 5/27/22, along with Chain Valley. First I had met Mike, and he was certainly accommodating. He mentioned having a tree crew in for trimming in July I believe, as a couple spots were getting bad. What a piece property he has there, and can see the camping option as a good one if he can get it back. Big boy golf out there.

I've camped out there a bunch of times. If you pick a spot way out back away from the road it's just you and the crickets, and a sky full of stars. Had a very scary lightening storm come through once while I camped out. The OG course is great. Haven't played the newer course yet. If you're heading north to go to Traverse City or anywhere up there in the NW it's highly recommended, it's a very short detour off the main highway. You'll likely have the the place to yourself or close to it.

1-UP 08-18-2022 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 3831066)
Because THAT area needs more..........................:confused: :mad: :p :hfive:

Of course it does! That said, I can't think of an area that couldn't use more courses as a rule. The more the better! :D

davetherocketguy 08-22-2022 06:17 AM

Soooo...This'll make Juke - happier - lol. I updated my review of Lake Arvesta. They've done loads of improvements in the last few weeks. The most notable of which is the round tee pads. The more I think about them the more I like the concept of round tees. These are some weird asphalt-ish composite material that is supposedly permeable so they'll never have standing water on them. In my professional career I've not seen any permeable pavements succeed but maybe this stuff will work in this application. It's still very much a work in progress but very playable. The only things I really don't like are the silly double mando on 14 and the double islands on 18.

BogeyNoMore 08-22-2022 07:17 AM

As long as Juke's happy...
Because ultimately, that's all that really matters. :p

tomjulio 08-22-2022 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by davetherocketguy (Post 3831836)
Soooo...This'll make Juke - happier - lol. I updated my review of Lake Arvesta. They've done loads of improvements in the last few weeks. The most notable of which is the round tee pads. The more I think about them the more I like the concept of round tees. These are some weird asphalt-ish composite material that is supposedly permeable so they'll never have standing water on them. In my professional career I've not seen any permeable pavements succeed but maybe this stuff will work in this application. It's still very much a work in progress but very playable. The only things I really don't like are the silly double mando on 14 and the double islands on 18.

The designer, Jim Schultz of Eagle Wings, mentioned that the owner had been experimenting with a variety of materials to get the tee pads just right. In a recent conversation with Jim he also mentioned the owner bought some more adjacent land to further tweak Avesta and make a few of the holes more challenging, but in essence, the course layout is now set in stone.

The circular tee pads are awesome. They allow basket replacement without having to redo teepads. This concept is so novel that we just poured circular tee pads in cement for the new family 18 hole course in Manistee right on the lake, giving us flexibility to move basket location in the future with ease.

Jukeshoe 08-22-2022 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by davetherocketguy (Post 3831836)
Soooo...This'll make Juke - happier - lol. I updated my review of Lake Arvesta. They've done loads of improvements in the last few weeks. The most notable of which is the round tee pads. The more I think about them the more I like the concept of round tees. These are some weird asphalt-ish composite material that is supposedly permeable so they'll never have standing water on them. In my professional career I've not seen any permeable pavements succeed but maybe this stuff will work in this application. It's still very much a work in progress but very playable. The only things I really don't like are the silly double mando on 14 and the double islands on 18.

Double mando on 14 didn't factor into my round as I played from the longs (the mando is only from the shorts, IIRC). I noted it, but didn't think it looked too weird? What's your beef with it? Odd angle? Or just opposed to double mandos in general?

I agree 18 is weakest hole by a bit.

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Originally Posted by BogeyNoMore (Post 3831843)
As long as Juke's happy...
Because ultimately, that's all that really matters. :p

Now I just need you to sell this concept to my wife... :| :|

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Originally Posted by tomjulio (Post 3831867)
The designer, Jim Schultz of Eagle Wings, mentioned that the owner had been experimenting with a variety of materials to get the tee pads just right. In a recent conversation with Jim he also mentioned the owner bought some more adjacent land to further tweak Avesta and make a few of the holes more challenging, but in essence, the course layout is now set in stone.

The circular tee pads are awesome. They allow basket replacement without having to redo teepads. This concept is so novel that we just poured circular tee pads in cement for the new family 18 hole course in Manistee right on the lake, giving us flexibility to move basket location in the future with ease.

I liked the material fine; weather or not (pun very much intended) they are permeable, or hold up over time, remains to be seen.

I will say, without the real signs up, and some way (such as a bolt marker on the sign) to definitively know which pin position the baskets are in, the round nature of the pads made where to throw much more ambiguous. So that's a note of caution on that style...maybe not the best design for a crowded park-style course unless they want to encourage wanton safari. :D :p

davetherocketguy 08-22-2022 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jukeshoe (Post 3831870)
Double mando on 14 didn't factor into my round as I played from the longs (the mando is only from the shorts, IIRC). I noted it, but didn't think it looked too weird? What's your beef with it? Odd angle? Or just opposed to double mandos in general?

I'm kind of the opinion that mandos need to be used sparingly. In this case, the double mando is way too narrow. If the goal is to make the shorts more challenging then I think a better option is a different pin placement. The problem as I see it with something like that is this is being designed by Jim who is head and shoulders above 98% of disc golfers in skill and stuff like this is being designed to his skill level rather than the majority.

Plus, putting big white boards out in the middle of the woods like that sorta detracts from the scenery.

Countchunkula 08-22-2022 12:10 PM

I just got back from a week spent at various places on the west side of the LP. Based on this thread and recent reviews, it looks like I wasn't the only one.

I absolutely love the area from starting at say Silver Lake on the south end through TC on the north. Even without all the great dg, that area just does it for me. Perpetually looking forward to my next trip back.

We stuck to shorter courses this time around (my little guy has a cast on his throwing arm), but still had a blast. Sounds like next time we're in the area, there will be some new big boy courses to spin!

davetherocketguy 08-23-2022 04:45 AM

Since we're kinda on the topic of Lake Arvesta:

Third Coast Championship

klodkrawler05 08-23-2022 07:44 AM

This is a total aside and not course related exactly.
I signed up for that tournament a while ago solely because I wanted to play Lake Arvesta and a tournament seemed like a good excuse to do so. Booked a camp site with the family in South Haven since we're pretty familiar with that area, it wasn't until this weekend I finally checked out the other courses and realized they're an hour away, barely closer than just driving there from our house DOH.
Looking at the uDisc map I guess both St Joe and South Haven are 1 course short of a 3 course tournament, but given the current registration numbers, it seems like the tourney could've been SHARA/Lake Arvest in South Haven or LTP and River Park.

This is mostly also me whining about my poor geography skills since I just got burned by the same thing for States this weekend after realizing Flip City is nowhere near the campsite I booked in Ludington.

davetherocketguy 08-23-2022 07:49 AM

Arvesta to Lake Township Park - in case anyone was wondering...At least it's mostly highway driving.

Jukeshoe 08-23-2022 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by davetherocketguy (Post 3832164)
Arvesta to Lake Township Park - in case anyone was wondering...At least it's mostly highway driving.

It's also cake driving, too, we're not talking Chicago traffic here...:p ;)

I can drive down that stretch at 80 on cruise and hardly touch the wheel long stretches.

I don't play tournies but I thought SHARA paired well with Arvesta, as klodkrawler mentions.


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