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SomeChump 07-18-2009 10:54 PM

Orion LS
 
One of the first drivers I ever bought was an Orion LS in Sirius plastic. When I first bought it, it flew really overstable for me (I was just beginning, remember) and then as I added more and more torque into my game, it got kind of flippy to the point where I tossed it out of the bag (actually didn't own a bag then) and into the bin. It wasn't beat, just broken in. Meanwhile, I fixed a lot of things with my drive and learned how to drive with putters and mids and tried a dozen other drivers. I pulled the disc out today and started throwing it. I can't believe what a great disc this is. If I put about 80-90% power on it, I can throw it low, flat and straight like my TL. If I put 100% power on it and a touch of hyzer, it flips up flat readily and goes straight and long with just a hint of fade at the end. I had my longest drive ever (pin-high on a 340 foot hole) today and nearly aced several tunnel shots with the same disc.

Seriously, all you Teebird fans ought to at least take a look at this one. For me at least, it's like a longer TL like a TL is a longer Roc.

Has anyone else ever had this experience of going back to a disc you thought you outgrew and finding it to be the bomb?

Midnightbiker 07-18-2009 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeChump (Post 96883)
One of the first drivers I ever bought was an Orion LS in Sirius plastic. When I first bought it, it flew really overstable for me (I was just beginning, remember) and then as I added more and more torque into my game, it got kind of flippy to the point where I tossed it out of the bag (actually didn't own a bag then) and into the bin. It wasn't beat, just broken in. Meanwhile, I fixed a lot of things with my drive and learned how to drive with putters and mids and tried a dozen other drivers. I pulled the disc out today and started throwing it. I can't believe what a great disc this is. If I put about 80-90% power on it, I can throw it low, flat and straight like my TL. If I put 100% power on it and a touch of hyzer, it flips up flat readily and goes straight and long with just a hint of fade at the end. I had my longest drive ever (pin-high on a 340 foot hole) today and nearly aced several tunnel shots with the same disc.

Seriously, all you Tee-bird fans ought to at least take a look at this one. For me at least, it's like a longer TL like a TL is a longer Roc.

Has anyone else ever had this experience of going back to a disc you thought you outgrew and finding it to be the bomb?


Hm-mm. I took my Orion LS out of my bag because it was becoming too flippy. I might take it to the practice field and practice throwing it with some hyzer and see what happens.

DirtyMittenDG 07-18-2009 11:02 PM

I like my Sirius Orion LF, it was VERY overstable when I first got it and now its perfect. Ive been wanting to try an LS though.

mashnut 07-18-2009 11:05 PM

That's how the valk was for me, it was my first disc, and it never really worked for me. I pulled it back out after I started playing a little more seriously, and it flies really wel for me now.

Midnightbiker 07-18-2009 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 164StarValkyrie (Post 96889)
I like my Sirius Orion LF, it was VERY overstable when I first got it and now its perfect. Ive been wanting to try an LS though.

I have a 150 if you want to trade me something for it.

Midnightbiker 07-18-2009 11:12 PM

I would like to take my Orion LS off the wall, because my wife had a really cool dye put on it for me last Valentine's Day:

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...HARLEYDISC.jpg

YonderScott 07-18-2009 11:32 PM

A buddy of mine has a Polaris LF I love throwing when he's not using it, but that's the only millennium I've ever thrown.

RustyP 07-18-2009 11:34 PM

The Orion LS is a solid mold for sure. The Sirius plastic will stay pretty stable for a long while...it took me well over a year to get them really flippy. The base (Millennium) plastic, however, will make for a good roller right off the shelf. I just recently took mine out of the bag - I used them mainly for rollers and big anhyzers, and I found that a beat pro/dx Eagle-x is a little easier to control on those types of shots. Still, I think it's one of the most solid fast & straight distance drivers on the market.

billnchristy 07-19-2009 12:34 AM

Strangely it seems to work well for beginners too. We got my wife's son one at 147g and he can whip that thing twice as far as any other disc. I'd say he was getting 80-100' last week and after we had the kids camp he is pushing 150'-180'

XxInnovaxX 07-19-2009 02:38 AM

i have a sols and an solf and they are two of my best discs...the same exact story happened with me as it did you with the sols...great disc when i first had it, became flippy and turned over too much....tweaked my form and back in action, prolly my straightest driver and one of my top 5 for "D"

Midnightbiker 07-19-2009 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by XxInnovaxX (Post 97008)
i have a sols and an solf and they are two of my best discs...the same exact story happened with me as it did you with the sols...great disc when i first had it, became flippy and turned over too much....tweaked my form and back in action, prolly my straightest driver and one of my top 5 for "D"

I am hitting the practice field tonight, so I will take it off the wall and give it another try.

Kodachrome 10-10-2013 08:19 PM

super necro bump brothers.

why does nobody talk about the OLS? at all?

i picked up a 1.1 168g QOLS and holy crap, man. it's super easy to throw far, super controllable. it's hard for me NOT to hit 360 when i throw it. hyzerflips like a bawss, goes forever. it's my distance driver of choice when there isn't much wind.

i saw some of the other runs and was debating getting an SOLS to go with it, but they were flat as **** and i wasn't sure how they'd handle as they were later runs. does NOBODY have any information on these other than "it's a sidewinder with a spacer"? i've seen other people ask in other forums, too.

if i'm pushing these out to 400 on a hyzerflip, would an opto saint do the same for me and hold up to the wind better?

bfowler 10-10-2013 10:48 PM

My 164 SOLS is very flat and is VERY overstable. Did not make my bag. My tie-dye SOLF is a dream. It's my distance driver.

archmage 10-11-2013 10:25 AM

QOLS are really great discs (and I don't think there are any other run but the 1.1 out there yet?). I feel they fly out of the box very much like nicely worn SOLF, with some turn and still fades back, or hyzerflip into straight flying goodness. Often times I can use my broken in SOLF or QOLS interchangeably and get the same lines out of both, just a matter or which I feel like throwing at the time :) MOLS are pretty nice understable discs to begin with too, but they break in to really flippy quite quickly, however that can be useful too, as I carry a worn MOLS as my roller disc. I haven't personally thrown SOLS, as I feel QOLS and MOLS fill all the straight and understable duties for me.

Kodachrome 10-11-2013 12:08 PM

good to know, thanks. especially about the SOLS, because at GGGT near me, all i see is super flat or super dome.

i think i'll go there again today and take all their QOLS. :D

KYdischippy 10-12-2013 07:29 AM

I have a few OLS (now wife has them), they just don't have that amazing flight of the OLF to me. I really like the overstability the OLF starts with and the fact that the high speed stability gets beat out while it retains the low speed. I just enjoy beat in OLF's to new OLS's. YMMV.

Derek M. 10-13-2013 05:20 PM

I carry an Orion LS in all 3 plastics and i carry a SOLF and QOLF as well. I play in Colorado were everything is more overstable due to altitude. For me, the SOLS will flip up a bit and fade out to finish pretty straight. I cant get my QOLS which is brand new to flip up at all yet. My drives with the SOLS usually go about 370' and is my go to driver. The OLF's make a great headwind driver and seem to glide better than expected for an overstable disc. As to the original question, ive recently switched back to the Polaris LS and am loving it as a long fairway driver.

Streets 01-27-2014 07:47 PM

Bump!

What is the word on the 1.8 runs (the newest)?

Streets 01-28-2014 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Streets (Post 2333441)
Bump!

What is the word on the 1.8 runs (the newest)?

Bump. Help a brother out

tu-f-o 01-28-2014 11:54 AM

I never liked the sirius SOLS because it didn't stay straight in a hyzer flip for me. I use my sidewinder for that.
Also my SOLS was a weird shape, kinda vulcan-ish. And the plastic was...not pleasant. Dull, hard, and ugly.

Streets 01-28-2014 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tu-f-o (Post 2334338)
I never liked the sirius SOLS because it didn't stay straight in a hyzer flip for me. I use my sidewinder for that.
Also my SOLS was a weird shape, kinda vulcan-ish. And the plastic was...not pleasant. Dull, hard, and ugly.

1.8? I'm really just looking for info on that run.

clard 02-03-2014 08:41 AM

Wish I could help you with info on the 1.8s, but I have been tossing the 1.1 QOLSs and they are amazing. Like a much sidewinder with more LSS or something. Very cool and super long so far.

Raging Tide 04-02-2014 06:59 PM

I just received a shipment of used SOLS....a 1.2, a 1.4 and a 1.8

Obviously I have to get them out and work them for ahwhile, but is there any noticable difference in the runs? The 1.2 is considerably flatter, but beyond that?

nrihan 04-07-2014 05:22 PM

I just got a Orion LS marked G-4.....what does that mean?

Kodachrome 04-07-2014 09:13 PM

Someone told me they can either be blank with g4 on the back or stamped with a g4 on the back. They said they were protos. The millennium group on fb also told me they're not that rare, like a lot of millennium. Worth a few bucks more over stock, just old plastic nobody really cares for.

astomps 04-07-2014 10:29 PM

was actually just throwing a standard OLS this evening in the field. Mine is pretty beat it and looks to be an excellent hyzer flip disc at 80%ish power. Gonna have to start throwing it more often.

spicybird6 04-07-2014 10:44 PM

Most under-rated hyperflip disc!

dukesilver 05-26-2014 03:32 PM

Can someone explain the different numbers to me, i.e. 1.1, 1.6, 1.8? Are those different stabilities? I have a fairly new 1.6 SOLS that feels more stable than my champ teebird. Although the teebird is older, it still has some beef to it.

DanJon 05-26-2014 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dukesilver (Post 2465994)
Can someone explain the different numbers to me, i.e. 1.1, 1.6, 1.8? Are those different stabilities? I have a fairly new 1.6 SOLS that feels more stable than my champ teebird. Although the teebird is older, it still has some beef to it.


1.1, 1.2, etc. are the run numbers.

Kodachrome 05-26-2014 03:43 PM

Those are just run numbers. :) so 1.1 is the first, 1.2 is the second, so on and so forth. Each run seems to have its quirks but they were frequently mixed up so you can't really just say run x flies like this or is shaped like that.

atreau3 05-29-2014 08:15 AM

I'm really liking the 1.8! It is a great combination of control/ stability and workability. For me, it's flying on rogue/ slightly beat wraith line. The ones I have are 171 and moderately flat.

Great job Millennium!

discguy42 03-09-2015 04:58 PM

Necro Bump!

Can anybody tell me if/are there any big differences between the 1.7 and 1.8 runs?

I got to try a 1.8 in the Sirius plastic and like it, upon shopping for one I have seen mostly 1.7's...will I be able to see a difference or am I thinking too much?

ODRB 03-09-2015 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by discguy42 (Post 2723256)
Necro Bump!

Can anybody tell me if/are there any big differences between the 1.7 and 1.8 runs?

I got to try a 1.8 in the Sirius plastic and like it, upon shopping for one I have seen mostly 1.7's...will I be able to see a difference or am I thinking too much?

Are you shopping in person or online?

discguy42 03-09-2015 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by davidrboy (Post 2723258)
Are you shopping in person or online?

Online will be my only option. So I will not have any idea of dome, PLH or get to play touchy-feely with it :).

What kind of insider info you got?

ODRB 03-09-2015 06:43 PM

I was going to say that it is far more important to check dome and PLH than it is to check for run numbers with Orions. The stamps can't always be counted on.

You can always count on the QOLSs if you like them, because there was only one run and they are all pretty much identical. But I prefer the SOLS. I'll check my stack when I get home and see if I can add anything more.

Regardless of what I learn, I always get profile pictures when I'm buying Orions, and any good shop should be able to do that for you.

discguy42 03-09-2015 08:41 PM

^ Thanks for the help and info :thmbup:.

The one I tried has a pretty normal "dome", real similar to my Star Teebird. Not pop toppy, not flat, just a mellow moderate curve from shoulder to shoulder.

Guess I am about to go disc shopping...again :).

ODRB 03-09-2015 10:12 PM

Well, I've got 1.3, 4, 5, 6, and 9s. 3, 4, and 5 are board flat. 3 and 4s have nice turn but get squirrelly if overpowered once they're worn in. Controllable for sure, but don't glide to flat. 5 is freakishly OS, like a fresh SOLF. Mine in absolutely flat with a high wing. It's pretty beat but still doesn't turn much and fights back. I like it, but it's not an OLS. 1.6 is stiffer S plastic and domey. Flies nice, good glide, and turns nicely after initial break in. Ready for the good part? 1.9s are the current run and as good as any prior run. Medium dome, soft grippy S plastic, really nice swirly color blends,and great turn with enough LSF to finish flat enough not to dig in and roll. QOLS is great too. That's all I got. Hope it helps.

Magicweed 07-03-2015 07:10 PM

Just picked up a new SOLS and its love at first throw. I really like the point and shoot aspect of the disc, since it seems to move very little side to side. I was playing a new course today and came across a father and son playing so I tagged along with them. By the time we finished the round I'd thrown the SOLS off the tee a few times with great results so the dad asked me "what's that swirly disc you keep throwing?" I chatted with him about it, he tossed it back to me and said "whatever that thing is, you just throw it straight and far." It's in the bag now for sure.

crd 81 08-17-2015 11:25 AM

Would the eagle-x be a good complement to the ols? Any overlap? The rim on the ols felt nice and I thinking about using them as a longer understable complement to the EX.

ODRB 08-17-2015 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by crd 81 (Post 2834655)
Would the eagle-x be a good complement to the ols? Any overlap? The rim on the ols felt nice and I thinking about using them as a longer understable complement to the EX.

Sure. But the OLF is a longer Eagle X, and an even better complement to an OLS.


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