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SirRaph 06-10-2013 11:11 AM

How do they do in a headwind?

tbird888 06-10-2013 11:18 AM

Pures are the best headwind throwers, but they will handle a mild headwind. I've thrown them successfully in up to 15mph winds.

ManU 06-10-2013 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tbird888 (Post 2030203)
Pures are NOT the best headwind throwers, but they will handle a mild headwind. I've thrown them successfully in up to 15mph winds.

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Jeronimo 06-10-2013 12:05 PM

Wow, definitely going to pick up a celebration edition. That's exactly the kind of stuff that makes me love Latitude. Way to go Weston, keep it up Lat!

tbird888 06-10-2013 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ManU (Post 2030249)
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Thank you. They are not the best headwind throwers.

onemilemore 06-18-2013 05:05 PM

A question for those of you who drive with the Pure:

Are you mostly throwing it on a hyzer and getting it to flip to flat? The reason I ask is that my RGL Pure has been turning over real easily lately when thrown flat. I know it could certainly be my form, as I think I have developed a little bit of a wrist roll, but I am curious how others are throwing Pures off the tee so I can try and fix myself. Thanks in advance.

tbird888 06-18-2013 05:10 PM

I try to release my Optos flat. They are as neutral as can be. I'm also not a big distance thrower though.

onemilemore 06-18-2013 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tbird888 (Post 2043614)
I try to release my Optos flat. They are as neutral as can be. I'm also not a big distance thrower though.

Neither am I! Which is why I think this is a form flaw. Do you have RGLs and Opto? If so, is Opto more stable? I had one a while back but let it go...need to snag another.

tbird888 06-18-2013 05:16 PM

I have RGLs as well. Their dome is not only uncomfortable (to me), but they have more beef than the Optos. I didn't throw mine much as a result. Opto is definitely my favorite and closer in flight to my TM2s (when new) than my RGLs. I max out around 250' but usually am around 225' if that helps.

Kodachrome 06-18-2013 05:18 PM

makes me wish i had picked up a RGL at GGGT yesterday instead.

for what it's worth, all my optos have flown perfectly straight; when new there is a little bit of fade for me. i can probably only put them out to 300 max (not very controlled) and 250 225-250 consistently so your mileage may vary.

i wish they felt the same as zeroline in terms of rim depth and flatness, etc. : / feels more like a traditional putter in hand, i hate hate hate driving with those types of discs. screws with my release.

SmokintheChains 06-18-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by onemilemore (Post 2043602)
A question for those of you who drive with the Pure:

Are you mostly throwing it on a hyzer and getting it to flip to flat? The reason I ask is that my RGL Pure has been turning over real easily lately when thrown flat. I know it could certainly be my form, as I think I have developed a little bit of a wrist roll, but I am curious how others are throwing Pures off the tee so I can try and fix myself. Thanks in advance.

Both of my optos I used for driving (when new) could be released flat and would be neutral the entire flight (280-300). Once they started to get used I would have to increase the amount of hyzer put on them. If released flat they would anny gently all the way to the ground. Its for this reason I picked up a fuzion judge. Slightly OS to start with, hopefully it will beat into that neutral flight that the opto pure had. Then I can keep the opto pure in the bag for anny approaches or drives as needed.

onemilemore 06-18-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tbird888 (Post 2043637)
I have RGLs as well. Their dome is not only uncomfortable (to me), but they have more beef than the Optos. I didn't throw mine much as a result. Opto is definitely my favorite and closer in flight to my TM2s (when new) than my RGLs. I max out around 250' but usually am around 225' if that helps.

That's about where I can get to with a putter if I really want to, but since the Pure is getting squirrelly for me/I am making it squirrelly, I don't feel as good putting it out there. Might need to head to the field and clean some things up.

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Originally Posted by SmokintheChains (Post 2043657)
Both of my optos I used for driving (when new) could be released flat and would be neutral the entire flight (280-300). Once they started to get used I would have to increase the amount of hyzer put on them. If released flat they would anny gently all the way to the ground. Its for this reason I picked up a fuzion judge. Slightly OS to start with, hopefully it will beat into that neutral flight that the opto pure had. Then I can keep the opto pure in the bag for anny approaches or drives as needed.

Thanks for the feedback. Without adding another putter mold to the mix, I just need to play with the release angles some more. Appreciate all the feedback guys!

DG_Before_Breakfast 06-18-2013 08:12 PM

I got a Black Zero line Pure and love it. It is just like the Judge, only with no bead. I prefer no bead. I love the glidey, straight to slight anhyzer approach lines I can get with this Disc. The soft plastic tends to land and stick well too.

Putting with it nicely as well, but I'm not sure I will make it my inside the circle putter yet. Two things would keep me from doing that, but they are just things I heard in Disc Golf videos.

One is that it is glidey. I've heard pros say that glidey is bad for putting inside the circle. However, I've been using Ions for a long time now, so I'm already breaking that rule. What is the thinking here? Glidey discs have less touch? Or they spit out more?

The other is more about the plastic I chose. I think it was Feldberg that had the advice to approach with soft plastic and putt at the chains with hard plastic. So I could get the Opto Pure for a harder disc. Should I just get an Opto anyway? A lot of people seem to prefer it.

Also, when I do power up and put a lot of snap on the Pure or Judge, they flip for me. I prefer not to play with hyzer angles to adjust for that. So I just limit the range I use it, and use Mids farther out, or I have a Breaker putter that I drive with full power, does not flip hard, and reliably fades. Any reason why you would prefer to use the Pure for these situation?

Mr. America 06-18-2013 08:32 PM

I can toss an Opto Pure 280ish regularly, rarely while playing though, but even doing that they are remarkably stable/neutralish. They don't really flip and turn for me.

Now while actually playing I much prefer to throw Mids that distance, or even fairways if it's uphill.

Jkosk 06-18-2013 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DG_Before_Breakfast (Post 2044056)
I got a Black Zero line Pure and love it.

Where the hell are you people finding these black zeros?!?!?!

onemilemore 06-18-2013 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jkosk (Post 2044125)
Where the hell are you people finding these black zeros?!?!?!

Right? I think they have only been softs and last about 3 seconds.

DG_Before_Breakfast 06-18-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by onemilemore (Post 2044136)
Right? I think they have only been softs and last about 3 seconds.

I ordered mine on Disc Nation, and it is Soft.

And I just looked again, and they are not available in Black anymore.

Black also happens to be my last name, so I thought it would be cool to have a Black disc...or was it because Satan whispered in my ear...

Osmo 06-18-2013 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by onemilemore (Post 2044136)
Right? I think they have only been softs and last about 3 seconds.

I got mine from DN and it is HARD. Was the only one,

RHINESEL 06-19-2013 10:26 AM

Opto Pure on an approach shot about 150' or so is a standstill flat backhand. Laser shot to the basket with minimin fade if any (usually thrown low enough that it hits under the basket before it has a chance to fade).

From the tee I'd probably need a little hyzer angle or air to make it out further. But truthfully, if it is 200-250 I'm probably throwing my Buzzz off the tee.

DG_Before_Breakfast 06-19-2013 01:51 PM

My local store had an Opto Pure so I figured I was fated to get one. Really liking my Soft Black Zero Line Pure on approaches today - getting up and down nicely with it. Sticks nicely to the ground. Pure goodness.

Beener 06-19-2013 04:03 PM

Did a search of this thread but could not find the specific answer, so...

I have an nicely beat-in EZE Pure that is great for hyzer-flippin' and holds a nice anhyzer line. With EZE being OOP, would a ZERO Hard beat-in to be slightly understable like an EZE? Or, should I try a ZERO Soft instead?

Thanks for your insight!

tbird888 06-19-2013 04:16 PM

All discs, regardless of plastic, will lose stability given enough use. Are you asking which will beat faster?

Beener 06-19-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tbird888 (Post 2045649)
All discs, regardless of plastic, will lose stability given enough use. Are you asking which will beat faster?

Yes; kinda... ;)

More specifically, will a well beat-in ZERO Hard fly like an EZE? Or, am I better off starting with a ZERO Soft?

I use the ZERO Hard as my putting putter, so cycling in beat-in discs for understable driving / approach duties is an attractive option.

Thanks!

Jkosk 06-19-2013 04:58 PM

Yes, Zero Hard, when seasoned, will produce nice under stable disc. Just like EZE.

Zero Hard should be closer to what you are looking for, since EZE plastic is relatively firm, is it not?

Johnny Depth 06-19-2013 05:18 PM

How long does it take for an opto pure to beat in?

tbird888 06-19-2013 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Depth (Post 2045815)
How long does it take for an opto pure to beat in?

Six months in and thousands of throws, and mine is still hard to turn. It has lost a little fade though.

SmokintheChains 06-19-2013 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Depth (Post 2045815)
How long does it take for an opto pure to beat in?

I had mine not quite one full playing season (lots of short holes with trees and many approach shots in the woods) and it was just starting to turn when thrown hard and flat. That is until the lake gods ate her up buns.

Johnny Depth 06-19-2013 05:32 PM

Those damn lake gods..

Can't wait to get mine. I think they're out of stock atm though

SmokintheChains 06-19-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Depth (Post 2045849)
Those damn lake gods..

Can't wait to get mine. I think they're out of stock atm though

She was a beauty too...early run bubblegum pink opaque opto. Why lake gods why!!!!!!!??????????!!!!!!!!!!

Johnny Depth 06-19-2013 05:37 PM

This is the worst day of my life now that I know that tragic story, buns.

Beener 06-19-2013 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jkosk (Post 2045760)
Yes, Zero Hard, when seasoned, will produce nice under stable disc. Just like EZE.

Zero Hard should be closer to what you are looking for, since EZE plastic is relatively firm, is it not?

Yes, EZE feels firm / flexible but not stiff / rigid. It could be considered a ZERO Medium, IMO... ;)

Thanks! Looks like the ZERO Hard putter rotation is a go. :thmbup:

HiFi 06-19-2013 06:55 PM

http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9d75201a.jpg

I use this for neutral and understable drives. Just a hint of fade that you can control easily. Beautiful discs too, I usually wipe all of my stamps but this one I won't touch.

StarFirebird 06-19-2013 08:30 PM

I like that Pure man.

I'll be getting me a Red one here in a few days.

I just recently went back to my Pures after using Spikes for a while. Latitude 64 makes it so easy to transition from putter to putter. I'm not sure how they do that,but I like it. :thmbup:

DG_Before_Breakfast 06-19-2013 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokintheChains (Post 2045860)
She was a beauty too...early run bubblegum pink opaque opto. Why lake gods why!!!!!!!??????????!!!!!!!!!!

Noooooooo.....!

You should petition the course club for a lake dredging party. Maybe you would get it back, and if its like some courses, have 1000 discs to pick through.

StarFirebird 06-19-2013 09:12 PM

One question about recycled line.

Does it feel like the Zero Hard,Zero Soft or Opto Line?

I've never actually felt one of the Recycled Line plastics so I have no clue.

tbird888 06-19-2013 09:15 PM

It's reground Gold Line with some Opto mixed in.

StarFirebird 06-19-2013 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tbird888 (Post 2046174)
It's reground Gold Line with some Opto mixed in.

Thanks man. :thmbup:

jrawk 06-19-2013 09:56 PM

feels like gold line

maansmit 06-19-2013 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jrawk (Post 2046232)
feels like gold line

Agree.

maansmit 06-19-2013 10:20 PM

How is the zero soft pure as a putting putter?


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