This is the last time I’m responding to you, life is to short to spend time trying to explain thing to people who refuse to open their minds and consider other ideas. The gif you posted where you are rotating your hips into the brace is exactly the problem I’ve been trying to fix for the past 6 months. That is not what sidewinder is doing. It may look the same to you but it is completely different. Look at his body positioning, the disc is still behind his body and he already has all of his weight on his front leg. In the gif you posted, your weight hasn’t fully shifted until your hand is in front of your body. That’s a big difference! Go to this lawnmower you are talking about, grab the string, and pull on it with all your weight on your back leg. Now put all your weight on your front leg and try it again. Surely you can feel the difference.

Im trying to illustrate the point of how your hips turn or engage before the weight shift. In Sidewinders throw his weight shifts just after the front heel comes down. At that precise moment, like I've always said, his hips are already half way through their total rotation. The upper body lags behind in irs rotation.

Alright I lied, one more response...you seem to be minimizing the impact of what you believe and what you are promoting to others. This is a fundamental part of throwing correctly. The gif you posted where you trying to demonstrate how your hips rotate into the weight shift - that is completely wrong and bad form. It’s clear that you don’t understand the concept of “shifting from behind”, but it’s one of the most important parts of this whole thing. That concept is what I said I’ve had trouble with in my form thread. I’ve played sports my whole life and never understood the idea of shifting from behind. I finally understand it now but getting a feel for it after shifting incorrectly for so long is really difficult. You are not shifting from behind, you are shifting from in front of you. Until you understand the difference I really think you are doing this entire community an injustice by giving form advice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQMV3oHs6Ug#t=1m25s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvvF6eW-by8#t=4m

Tbh it´s a correct sequence there what you are doing, very fluid and smooth. It´s just not a very good way to throw. As azplaya stated you are shifting from the front which is why your shoulders are flying open and SW has his shoulders back at heel plant.
Essentially this is what you are doing https://image.freepik.com/free-photo...e_1112-381.jpg

Well, you are way off on how you think I throw.
If that were the case I shouldn't be throwing as far as I am after 3 months.

I think you need some better glasses.

It is really hard to fight against anatomy, no matter how you look at it. What is "far" after 3 months?

Okay, let's be honest. You say you've been olaying for 10 years or so? What is your average drive distance?
Im not making a contest or anything, just saying that you seem pretty athletic and that after 10 years you should probably be driving 400-450 feet pretty easily. But you are not. You yourself have admitted to some fundamental timing issues and not understanding weight transfer, hips, brace, etc.
I've been playing 3 months and understand those things and I believe it shows in the distance I'm getting so far.

"Far" and "as far" are two different relative concepts.
I didn't say O was throwing "far". I said "as far". Like this morning, I was working on my hyzer flips and getting them out to 330-360. I had one that I really cranked on and it flipped up but then just turned its whole flight and right when it hit the ground it was just starting to want to fight out of the turn. I wished I gor it up higher to get a s flight. I only got that one up 6-8 feet off the ground though. It went 365 feet. I dont know how far it would have gone had I given it more height but maybe another 20-40 feet is fair.

I'm hitting 350 feet pretty regular now when warmed up. I think that's pretty good distance for my age (47) and how long I've been playing (3 1/2 months).