Got a cfr glow, really like it! Definitely has a little bit of dome, but it glides well and has good stability. No way I can turn this thing. May not be the BEST in a headwind but I'm sure it'll be good enough. If not, that's what the trident and xxx are for. Like a longer roc Or shorter tb with less fade.

Recent additions to the herd

i picked up a beat to **** barstamp dx myself. super flippy awesomeness. roller time. gonna put me in birdie range for a couple tricky holes. cfr glo is still killing it: super straight with that nice small fade.

Yesterday I accidentally left my beloved pro Gazelle behind on (I think) hole 2 at Audubon. I was on hole 15 before I noticed her not in the bag. With a backup disc in the truck and a backup-backup at home, I didn't even go back to see if she was still there. Maybe this belongs in the "never leaving my bag" thread! (although technically she did leave my bag, LOL)

my cfr glo still won't turn. once it does develop some small amount of drift i can't imagine i'd throw anything else for a fairway ever again. as it is, even with the fade it's still way straighter than any TB i've thrown. the dx rollers definitely got me some opportunities i never had a chance at before. 27 at kaposia comes to mind, around the pond to the right. i don't think i'm going to concern myself the star gazelles anymore, not with how wonderfully HSS the champ glo is.

It will eventually beat in to super awesomeness, I have one I've bagged for about a year now. Gazelle as always been a great flier for me and I wish it was available in a more wide variety of plastics, stiff Pro Leo plastic to be exact.

That'd be a pretty awesome plastic. It would kick the glide into overkill mode.

I wish innova had a better midgrade plastic they'd make their discs in. stiff (not candy) kc pro, or something ala zero hard, or at least as you said, give the speed 6 some love with driver pro. I wish they could also tone down the dome a bit. Just a leeeeeeetle bit. For now, dx paired with cfr glo is good.

yeah, no crap. those cheetas are pretty **** flat. i'd kill for a gazelle like that.

my cfr glo is seasoning into a dream, though...i just want a flat and os gazelle so i can do without mids.

last question.

how do the misprint gazelles with the eagles stamps stack up against cfr glows in terms of dome and stability?

Among the Gazelle lovers, apparently I am in the minority of absolutely loving the Stars because of their dome. For me, this is the best disc ever made. While breaking in Thunderbirds, my TeeBirds have gone all squirrelly recently and I do not know why. They either rocket upwards like I am a new player who has no idea what nose up is, or they break into their fade early, or they simply throw themselves into the ground. There seems to be no rhyme or reason why my TeeBirds are failing me. It is got to the point where I am trying to really beat up my Champion Thunderbirds to make them fly like how my TeeBirds used to.

And then there are my Star Gazelles. With my TeeBirds failing so miserably, I have been reaching for them more and more, and each throw reminds me why I love Gazelles so much. Despite all the issues I am having in general related to soreness from playing too much this summer and whatnot, the Gazelle is still deadly accurate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq__VfGHCOg

Check out the 31 second mark to see what I mean.

I wish I could bring myself to throw my KC pro's

Normal dome, but but very beefy. I have had 5 of them and they are all like mini banshees for a while.

Eeeexcellent. My cfr is now just straight line holding goodness. A little drift, a little fade on a full pull. Want something meatier in there, maybe to boot the hornet.

Picked up a thrashed old school "very long range driver" dx. Thing is solid. It's flippy, but controllably so. Really digging it as an understable woods driver. Never been happier with my fairway driver setup. Criminally underrated disc.

What are the most overstable gazelles? From any run/time period, not necessarily current.

Send them to me, I'll gladly throw them for you!

I would put them in this order, but I'm not the best expert.

1. Current champ
2. 11x KC PRO (max weight)
3. Champ glow
4. 10x taffy (max weights)
5. Star
6. Pro
7. DX

Star is above newer runs of Champ Glow, but it can be masked because the Star has less speed but more glide and distance. That is all I have to add.

Good to know, I haven't thrown any of the new champ glows, I have a star and don't care for it much so that's good to know

I have some nice Champ Glows here:

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums...54#post2851854

This is sad to hear, but at the same time good for me. That means there are more for me if I ever need to buy more. For my style of throwing, Star Gazelles are one of the best discs ever made because it can handle power and remain true to the line, but when powered down, it is still very manageable without a harsh fade. It excels at being thrown 4 to 6 feet off the ground and can finish approximately 330-350 feet without deviating a few feet either way off the intended line. It also holds anhyzers well without flipping over or coming back too hard and has nothing short of perfect precision when a hyzer is needed. The only time I do have issues with it are when I want to snap it hard, keep it low, but try to laser it out to only 240-260. At that point I might as well be throwing my Truth anyway.

Anyone thrown the Gstars? Where are they on the stability spectrum?

I have two and they are both very stable. I was surprised. They aren't quite as stable as some of the champs but seem to hold a smoother hyzer line. They also aren't the usual Gstar soft plastic. Much firmer and closer to regular Star.

Might as well express my love for the Gazelle while I'm at it. This disc wasn't on my radar for the longest time. It was the forgotten driver as discs got faster. Once the Thunderbird was dropped though I needed a disc to gap between it and mids. I also throw a combination of Starfires and PDs which are fast control drivers as well. I feel like the Gazelle gapped that distance better than even Teebirds. I like how they fly better than Teebirds too. They fly and glide like a mid but also hold lines and fight wind like a driver. They put in A LOT of work for me especially in the woods and some courses are all I throw off the tee. Definitely my favorite standstill/short run up disc. It's the disc in my bag that gets the most "what did you throw there" comments. I usually carry two Factory Store Stars and one Champ. Sometimes more. I have one Star that is dead straight stable, one that is understable and the Champ has a nice little fade to it. Seems to cover about everything I need.

I'm done. Carry on....

Thanks forgot about the gstar. I would put them above the star in terms of stability, but more along the lines of a true gazelle, not the champs or KC

Sad news, fellow Gazelle lovers...

My local shop has informed me that Innova will no longer be making the DX Gazelle.

Go find the coolest looking one you can, and hang it on your wall, quick!

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You're ****ing kidding me, right?

Its only available in DX and CFR Champ, right?
Hmmm... maybe better hold onto the CFR Glow I had up for sale until this is cleared up.

The Gazelle was never a great selling disc. It was one of the first small-diameter drivers and it never was able to push Vipers out of the Innovaheads bags. It also didn't compete well with the Cyclone, which was made in a better plastic. Then when the Cheetah came out, I sold five Cheetahs for every Gazelle I sold. By '98 with the Polaris LS and XL on the market, I couldn't even sell the KC Pro Gazelles.

When new players now look back at what was around in '95, they assume that old players had the same preferences for small-diameter drivers that they do and think that the Gazelle was in everyone's bag. It just wasn't.

Everyone I knew in the mid/late 90s had a Gazelle, including me.

I sold discs in the mid/late 90's. I never wanted to run out of Vipers, Cyclones or Cheetahs. Gazelles? I could get by with no Gazelles.

I don't deny that, but of all those discs it would seem to be the Gazelle that had the most staying power.
Anyhow, this is all moot until we get some verification on this rumor.

Either way, the stock of dx will last long so i'm not worried. It just fits my game so well that it pisses me off. Cfr glow will last for years too.

I don't want to find a replacement for the gazelle because the gazelle was my replacement for everything else I tried as a fairway.

I'm not the most reliable source. Just what the store owner told me. They said there will also no longer be an XD or Classic Roc.

True but I was really looking forward to the Gazelle coming out in the Thunderbird type DX plastic more than just about any other development on the horizon.

If If they hadn't been making these so domey for the last 10 years, they'd probably still be selling like hotcakes.

Same here. It's still the only Innova mold I will throw on occasion, even though I've moved on. The Gazelle was ALWAYS money for me. Sad news if true :(

XD is definitely going to be OOP; I heard somewhere that the Colt is meant to be its successor/replacement, but don't remember where I heard that so don't take that as gospel truth.

Maybe they'll have special runs of the Classic Roc, but with all the Roc/Roc3 variations (and there's the VRoc too, which is only using the name :p ) around, I'm not surprised they're retiring that one.

As to the Gazelle, I feel for Gazelle users, but I can understand it going OOP. If one looks at the Marshal Street Flight Guide, just above the Gazelle are the Teebird and FD2, and just above left (more OS) is the Eagle. Just below are the Spider and Shark, and just below and left is your Roc3, just below right (understable) is your Buzz.

Looks like the Gazelle just got caught up.

Huh?

Curious to hear is sales are down on the Gazelle or the rationale. I would think it sells better than Wahoos, Archangel, Dragons etc. I better pickup a handful of max weights just to have. It was the first disc my parents bought me and still today I enjoy playing the occasional Gazelle and Rhyno only rounds like I did growing up.

:wall: So never thrown a gazelle?

QFT. I can't stand when people say crap like "whelp the flight rating says it should be flippey with tons of glide" or "you may want to try a dragon because it is just above it on the Marshall street flight chart". If the knowledge you are about to share is derived from the publicly available and inaccurate sources like these you should just keep it to yourself.