It is also very narrow rimmed, making it feel like a putter/midrange hybrid. Fast for a putter.

It says on there "P-line plastic is very soft and rubbery giving you a great fingertip touch."

Ive never seen a P1 in rigid KC Pro type plastic, only very rubbery R-pro type, altough it always says P-line, not R-Pro line although that is what it 99% is.

Champy Star should be production run S-Line for good; It's the best of both worlds! I wouldd have all my discs in champy star.

3rd are not flat actually. I would call them "proportionally domey", very pearly, very stiff.

I would recommend a P2 over a P1 if you like McPro's but that's just IMO.

Agree completely with this.

This. Please.

I waited till tonight to get the 167g orange champy PD (like an idiot:doh:) and it was gone. I love the way this plastic feels compared to regular C line and would love to see discs run in it more often. My favorite FDs are old Jackal stamps in the red champy star.

Also, to whoever picked up one of the 160 PD's from the discmania site...if you don't like it, please let me know and I will happily take it off your hands.

What (if any) is the difference between factory second discs from the innova online store versus the discmania online store?

Looks as though the Discmania understable midrange is being released today.

Someone please post it up here - I really like my Fuse and the seasons we've spent together. However, hope springs eternal for a good understable mid with Innova stamped on the bottom.

Wanted the panther to be it, but it never turned over for me. oh well.

Our factory seconds are cosmetic flaws, nothing different in the flight. As far as I know Innova treats it the same way.

I'll post a review once Simon and I get some testers. :)

I saw a post on the Facebook group mentioning a G line DD2...these exist? How are they flying compared to the other plastics?