So what is the evolution of the P3? The glow I just got is all kinds of different from the D-lines I have.

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Also, it looks like this glow P3 has a mini bead... if thats flashing then it is the most flashing I have ever seen, its like 1/2 millimeters high and 1 millimeter wide. Taking that off would be some serious work...

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Pls Ryan tell me did they change the mold or what is up.

I really like how DM re purposed existing innova toolings/bottoms/tops into new molds, Hell you got the best god**** disc ever made from the firebird bottom (PD). Is this still part of how you design molds? Will there be new molds made the same way (i.e DD2/PD2/PD/FD) out of pieces of existing discs?

ALSO.

Was your partnership with innova meant purely as a steppingstone to get into the DG market, one that you would eventually distance from as you grew, or intended to be something long lasting?

Wow, that P3 looks like an entirely different disc

We will keep this in mind for future productions.

We will have Blizzard PD2's soon. They are quite beefy for Blizzard discs.

We will keep this in mind.

It was a PD.

We are not sure about this. From what I understand there was a point where the PDGA required to have "PDGA Aprroved" on the disc and it was added then.

Thanks we like it too.

We have them on the Discmania Store!

We will keep this in mind for future productions.

They are pretty close.

The Glow C-LINE P3 is very overstable.

Thanks :)

What did you think of it after the comparison?

We will keep it in mind for productions.

Thanks for the observations and pics! There has not been a change in the mold. That is not a bead that is the flashing of the P3. This is by far the most overstable version of the P3 that we have thrown.

All we can say is this: We love our partnership with Innova, and wouldn't have it any other way.

The glow P3 is not a bad disc, I just have trouble throwing slower discs that have that much dome, it does not sit comfortably in my hand. I have a bunch of D-P3s that have accumulated for some reason although I dont bag them. Its a nice disc, very midrangey.

That is a buttload of flashing, are they all like this? If I were to try and remove it with a boxcutter it would be a lot of work, also trying to get it uniform across the rim.

Flat Premium Jokeri reigns the day in my bag, closely followed by glow MD3. ;)

Just wanted to say that the P3 is one of the most under rated disc's in the game right now. Overstable to fight the wind and ranges quite well for a "putter" mold. The glow version is fantastic.

Also, for those that don't like the dome on the P3, I highly recommend some hot water. I flattened a C-Line just to see how it would fly and it's a thing of beauty.

What can we expect from DM in 2015?

Yeah theres that, however you can then forget about throwing it in sanctioned events...

I think there is room in distance drivers. 11, 5, -1, 3 or something like that would be nice for some added distance. PD1,5? :)

G line gremlin and p3 would be glorious if they molded up flat.

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Flat enough for ya? :D I did the hot water trick (actually the top became a little puddled because I think there was some low pressure between the rim and the weight I had on top) and also took it to sauna with me. Just for laughs. Will not be using this in regulation play obviously. For fooling around glow rounds mebbe.

Interestingly enough, it became less stable, well not flippy but the fade was eliminated almost completely. It is more like a touchey & glidey midrange now. ;)

I've had a couple of issues with the top puddling a little bit on some of the disc's I've tried to flatten. Every time those are the one's that lose almost all of their stability. The most susceptible mold for this is roc's in my opinion.

The most recent C-P3 that I've purchased is just about that flat. Where yours is puddled, mine is maybe the equivalent to that on dome. It is pretty flat though compared to others I've owned.

Yeah I think this is enough experimenting for me. In the future if I get a domey mold I dont like, I will just sell or trade it off. Maybe Ill customize this more, with some sharpies or whatever. I dont want to go into dyeing for realz because I know I would go full retard if I give it a chance :D

Can we please have McPro P2?

p-line p2?

Never had a p-line that felt like McPro plastic.

I'd have to agree with Tylerc, the P-Line P2 seems to be extremely close to a McPro feel.

I don't know about extremely close. I think a more accurate description is "identical". Seriously, it's the exact same plastic. Any perceived differences are imaginary.

I should have used some sort of visual enhancement when posting "extremely close" in my previous post. ;)

I've had five and they were all extremely slick compared to my mcpro aviars. Maybe I just bought the wrong ones? Are there certain ones with more grip?

It's a slightly different pro blend.

Mcpro = KC

What colors did you have??

The "proto" D-line stamped Ps feel great. I also have some older regular stamped ones that feel chalky. But if you give the slick ones a little use, wear and dirt should solve that problem.

That's interesting, as for 2015 you will have to wait and see!

Have you tried the DD if you're looking for a longer PD?

We will keep that in mind for future productions

Interesting how it changed the flight

I believe the P-LINE P2 is the same plastic

Correct

There are older runs that are hard and slick. they are usually marked KP2 on the bottom

Most of the old white ones marked KP2 are slicker and harder feeling.

It's true they do get a lot softer after some good use.

I've had yellow, black and white. All were slicker than my McPros (pink) or my KC Aviars for that matter (yellow). I guess I am just crazy. Of course you probably have to be a little crazy to play this game as much as we all do, or would like to haha.

Yeah I do bag various DDs too, but they need to be well beaten in to achieve more distance vs PD. Something with just a little turn out of the box and speed 11-12 would be the perfect.

Any plans for black friday or holiday promotions? Could we possibly get a teaser :D

The older P-LINE P2s were much slicker than the new ones. The ones feel a bit softer but still retain it's durability.

Thanks for the input, we will keep this in mind for future productions.

We might have a few things up our sleeves :) but we don't want to ruin the surprise.

I would love to see an overstable disc that fits between my md3 and pd. basically replace my whippet. I'm surprised there are no real whippet competitors out there. 1.6 rim thickness, 1.2 rim depth. like a mini pd :D

Isn't FD2 just that?

I picked up a C-P3 from our local PIAS on Sunday and it was almost as flat as the one that you flattened. It's flight is really close to that of a Classic Roc. It really does pair well with my Glow C-P3. It's flight numbers are more like 3|2|0|0. It is super straight.

Now, to my question. Does Discmania have any plans to produce a mold or two in the "3" fashion (i.e. Roc->Roc3, Shark->Shark3)?

Like the MD3 you mean?

DM already had the md1 and md2 before the "3" molds were released if I'm not mistaken. I though it just fit their established system.

I would love to see discmania produce:

Slim/shallow, FLAT, overstable, firm/tacky putter. (Rhyno/Zone/Piggy)

Slim/shallow, lots of HSS/with little LSS midrange (worn rocs, onterio cobras, R3)

Flat, pure beef, overtly overstable utility disc (Gator,Whippet,Drone)

granted I absolutely love my stash of firm pro rhynos, flat top gators, and onterio cobras, these are the slots yet to be contested by DM.

ps. I think that flat md2s may be comparable to KCobras but I've never had luck finding one in person, anybody find them similar?

How can we make G-line DD's a thing or move up the release list? :) The glide on that disc would be unreal!

Disagree. G-line PD2s, dammit.

did they ever announce who the new sponsored team member was?

I've thought the same thing, but those Innova discs are pretty secure in my bag. Discmania has absolutely taken over my driver selection on the course. FD, FD2 and 4 PDs. The only Innova drivers I have now are Roadrunner, Firebird and Pro Leopard (which may eventually be replaced with S-FD if it wears in right).

True.

Ryan knows better than me, but the flat MD2's I have are like drifty Roc3's. The King Cobras I've thrown had much more fade to them.

I'm by no means an expert on the midranges though, I'm just learning them myself.

ever going to make the shipping prices cheaper out of the store? thats the only thing holding me back from ordering a handful of discs from the discmania store.

potential for an MD4 perhaps? The one slot IMO missing in the mid lineup :thmbup: