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soothsayer 06-17-2021 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BillFleming (Post 3729127)
4. are they just repeating themselves with different companies? (Does DM own the Evo/Active molds or just the names).

I am not super familiar with Lat64 molds. Are the DM Evo discs "similar" to any of the Lat64 discs? What I mean is: is Lat64 using existing mold pieces to make the Evo discs or are they unique molds? I think this would go towards answering your question.

If they are unique there is a good chance that DM learned their 'lesson'.

BillFleming 06-17-2021 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by soothsayer (Post 3729170)
I am not super familiar with Lat64 molds. Are the DM Evo discs "similar" to any of the Lat64 discs? What I mean is: is Lat64 using existing mold pieces to make the Evo discs or are they unique molds? I think this would go towards answering your question.

If they are unique there is a good chance that DM learned their 'lesson'.

We can only hope they learned their lesson. I don't know about the Latitud64 and Yikun molds (one is producing DM's Active and one is producing Evolution line per my understanding). Even if they aren't using molds they already own....it's possible DM asked the other companies to create the molds and Latitude64 and Yikun might actually own the molds. Kind of....we paid for the mold supplies, we made the mold...we will use the mold for your discs, but the mold belongs to us. If that is the situation, then nothing has really changed for Discmania.

I'm looking forward to hearing what Discmania has to say. Until then, we can only guess what is going on.

SuperWookie 06-17-2021 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by soothsayer (Post 3729170)
I am not super familiar with Lat64 molds. Are the DM Evo discs "similar" to any of the Lat64 discs? What I mean is: is Lat64 using existing mold pieces to make the Evo discs or are they unique molds? I think this would go towards answering your question.

If they are unique there is a good chance that DM learned their 'lesson'.

Yes, they are very similar to other Lat64 molds. I have an Instinct, Essence, and Enigma, and all of them feel similar to some Lat64 disc I have or have touched. For example, the Instinct is very similar to the Lat 64 Explorer, and flies very similar.

Which isn't a bad thing per say. Lat 64 makes amazing plastic and molds. It's just that everyone who wants a DM disc, wants the EXACT SAME DISC that Simon or Eagle throws. And they both only throw Originals for the most part.

However, you are seeing both of them start to throw some of the new discs Lat 64 is producing for DM, but they are more utility or gimmick discs. Not the tried and true meat and potatoes discs they use like the MD, MD3/4/5, FD, FD2, FD3, PD, and PD2. That's what all the super fans want. So even though the new discs from DM (Lat 64) are good stuff, it's not what people want to buy.

Now if Simon and Eagle actually switch over and start using/bagging the Lat 64 discs IN tourneys, THEN you'll see DM sales go up for sure! Maybe that is the goal of Jussi and DM... to get Simon and Eagle to start bagging more of the new Lat 64 discs? Who knows? But most people just want to use what their favorite pros use, regardless of whether it's better or worse haha

Rastnav 06-17-2021 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperWookie (Post 3729221)
Yes, they are very similar to other Lat64 molds. I have an Instinct, Essence, and Enigma, and all of them feel similar to some Lat64 disc I have or have touched. For example, the Instinct is very similar to the Lat 64 Explorer, and flies very similar.

Which isn't a bad thing per say. Lat 64 makes amazing plastic and molds. It's just that everyone who wants a DM disc, wants the EXACT SAME DISC that Simon or Eagle throws. And they both only throw Originals for the most part.

However, you are seeing both of them start to throw some of the new discs Lat 64 is producing for DM, but they are more utility or gimmick discs. Not the tried and true meat and potatoes discs they use like the MD, MD3/4/5, FD, FD2, FD3, PD, and PD2. That's what all the super fans want. So even though the new discs from DM (Lat 64) are good stuff, it's not what people want to buy.

Now if Simon and Eagle actually switch over and start using/bagging the Lat 64 discs IN tourneys, THEN you'll see DM sales go up for sure! Maybe that is the goal of Jussi and DM... to get Simon and Eagle to start bagging more of the new Lat 64 discs? Who knows? But most people just want to use what their favorite pros use, regardless of whether it's better or worse haha

Eagle has played both the Splice and the Mutant a “metric f***ton” this year.

seedlings 06-17-2021 06:51 PM

Kyle Klein is throwing some new molds. Funny that Ricky pulled out a PD2 I thought I heard Gatekeeper say.

dehaas 06-17-2021 10:06 PM

If DM wanted a bunch of silly overstable discs for Simon and Eagle to throw they should’ve talked to Dave Mac at Gateway about producing stuff for them.

Kinda joking, kinda serious.

Their new plastic blends are actually fairly legit.

soothsayer 06-19-2021 09:02 AM

RIP ORIGINALS (?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI9uyC1W1-Q

DiscJunkie 06-19-2021 10:07 AM

That’s what it sounds like…

soothsayer 06-19-2021 10:12 AM

https://www.discmania.net/pages/next

what do people think of this?

Horsman 06-19-2021 10:32 AM

So a teaser to let us all down?


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