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Keller 06-21-2021 09:32 PM

So what happens now with Avery's dual sponsorship?

seedlings 06-21-2021 10:01 PM

Simon’s new video has C-line AND S-line DD3. So S-line plastic is part of the remake.


Rastnav 06-21-2021 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DiscT (Post 3730409)
So does “reinvented” mean new plastic/manufacturer or does it mean new mold entirely (+old name)? I’ve been combing the thread/video and can’t seem to find a definitive answer, unless I missed it or lost my Lucky Charms decoder ring…

Well, absent a full clarification from Innova or Discmania, we can’t know for sure.

The DM original line was made with molds owned by Innova made to specifications also owned by Innova. We can speculate that Innova would not have sold the molds or the specs, but we can’t know for sure. But that seems the most likely.

And let’s be clear here, it’s the specifications for the mold that really matter. The actual injection molds won’t last forever. Maybe jakebake has a sense of how many discs could be produced in the intended life span of an industrial scale injection mold, but whatever it is, I doubt it’s a decade and a half worth of discs.

Or, conversely, you could say that once the actual original mold pieces that made the “original” originals, that those particular discs can never really be made again. Because the new mold will be different in some way. But that also goes for various lots of plastic that go into certain runs, etc. At the end of the day, the ongoing life of the P2 depends on a specification to make a mold that produces a disc that looks, feels and flies like a P2 is expected to.

So the most likely thing to have happened is that DM developed their own mold specifications doing their level best to produce a disc that is as close as possible to the “ideal” P2. Given how often different runs from the same molds are slightly different, that’s really not all that rigorous of a specification.

DiscyBusiness 06-21-2021 10:25 PM

Excited for Discmania's future with today's announcements, but good lord $35.99 + shipping for two baseline putters is wild. K3 Reko's are currently $14/per, for a Swedish-made baseline comparison.

Can't wait to feel up an MD3 in this fancy Italian plastic :p

XDrocker 06-21-2021 10:55 PM

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will you be making anymore of these?

jakebake91 06-21-2021 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rastnav (Post 3730443)

And let’s be clear here, it’s the specifications for the mold that really matter. The actual injection molds won’t last forever. Maybe jakebake has a sense of how many discs could be produced in the intended life span of an industrial scale injection mold, but whatever it is, I doubt it’s a decade and a half worth of discs.

Without knowing how the mold was originally built and the number of shots, it's impossible to say. However, I used to work on molds that were originally built in the 80's. Built and maintained right, they last longer than you would think. And it's not like they are making 10 million discs a year.

Monkeypaws 06-21-2021 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by soothsayer (Post 3730225)
I reaaaally hope that the new "D-line" plastic is closer to Innovas version than to Exo or Geo plastic. Not really a fan of those Lat64 baseline plastics.

Lat 64's Zero/BT is better than any of them.

DiscT 06-21-2021 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DiscyBusiness (Post 3730449)
Excited for Discmania's future with today's announcements, but good lord $35.99 + shipping for two baseline putters is wild. K3 Reko's are currently $14/per, for a Swedish-made baseline comparison.

Can't wait to feel up an MD3 in this fancy Italian plastic :p


Thought the same thing, so here’s my question for you…

Who’s the sucker: the person who buys 2 putters for $40+, or the person who passes on them?!

soothsayer 06-21-2021 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rastnav (Post 3730399)
Innova and it’s partners referencing other Innova products is one thing. them coming out with a a disc and marketing it as “just like a Buzzz” would be different.

Say you advertised your theme park and said you had an indoor roller coaster with a space theme, “Galaxy Peak, like Space Mountain”, I think Disney would come after you pretty hard. And that’s without the whole prior relationship between Innova and Discmania wherein Discmania owned the names of the discs. If Innova actually referenced those names when marketing the “new” discs, it would certainly be infringing on Discmania's IP. I would assume they’d have a case that Innova was intending to use DM's trademark for their own gain.

Im not saying they would advertise them that way. I think that they will name them some new name, people will find out what DM mold it is, everyone will know that the new "Flying Squirrel" fairway driver is actually an FD, and then people will buy them knowing they are getting rebranded FD's.

soothsayer 06-21-2021 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DiscyBusiness (Post 3730449)
Excited for Discmania's future with today's announcements, but good lord $35.99 + shipping for two baseline putters is wild. K3 Reko's are currently $14/per, for a Swedish-made baseline comparison.

Can't wait to feel up an MD3 in this fancy Italian plastic :p

Where does it say they will be 35.99?


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