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ChrisWoj 06-09-2021 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3726829)
classic brodie, randomly shows up in the comment section of a reddit post about a tweet of his and digs the hole wayyyyy deeper

https://www.reddit.com/r/discgolf/co...golf_politics/

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Originally Posted by jakebake91 (Post 3726841)
I can't seem to see what Brodie said..... anybody give a quick recap? I can only imagine based on the post in question....

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3726843)
he's user GBtwin21 in the replies

Important to note that he did go back on some of what he had to say. He posted a list of causes for homelessness in the US and admitted being incorrect about the causes of that sort of life. I respect that and feel like its more time taken out to be reflective than I've seen from him in the past when he's got in the middle of this stuff.

robdeforge 06-09-2021 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisWoj (Post 3726852)
Important to note that he did go back on some of what he had to say. He posted a list of causes for homelessness in the US and admitted being incorrect about the causes of that sort of life. I respect that and feel like its more time taken out to be reflective than I've seen from him in the past when he's got in the middle of this stuff.

he admitted he was wrong about that one thing. did he say something that makes you think he then reflected on how being wrong about that might mean he's wrong about other related things?

ChrisWoj 06-09-2021 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3726855)
he admitted he was wrong about that one thing. did he say something that makes you think he then reflected on how being wrong about that might mean he's wrong about other related things?

Baby steps. :)

Rastnav 06-09-2021 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3726843)
he's user GBtwin21 in the replies

bs: This also wasn’t a post about politics. It was more directed towards sports. Saw a lot of people making excuses for why they haven’t done something yet.

op: Even with sports, privilege absolutely comes into play. Overcoming adversity is great to advocate for. Telling people without certain inherent advantages that they're "soft" for not succeeding is kinda wack...

bs: This is pretty motivating. Maybe I should have just tweeted this out https://youtu.be/XKDdU5XSMe8

op: Hahahahahaha ok. This video is hilarious. Again yeah that's cool to like.. Encourage people to exercise more but show that **** to a poor kid living on the street who's dream is to play basketball... But he's gotta work after school so he can't join the team, or his parents aren't there and no one else wants to help him. Personal responsibility is super important but not everything boils down to, "TRY HARDER MOTHER****ER OR YOU DON'T DESERVE TO WIN."

My point is other people being more successful in whatever sense you want to consider success can absolutely be excused by knowing that they have more advantages/privileges.

bs: https://www.gamedaynews.com/athletes...ios=1&safari=1

My point I was trying to make was to stop making excuses or stop listening to people that tell you, you can’t do something.

op: I get the point. I don't think you conveyed it well. Seems like I'm not the only one.

I think for some people it comes off similar to people who look at a homeless person and just assume they didn't work hard enough.

bs: Not really understanding your example. I would guess most homeless people got in that situation from bad choices.

Edit: Already noted.

In any case, I think it’s a little bit lacking in self awareness for Brodie to post the latest “your attitude determines your altitude” aphorism poster. The guy is 6’7”. You can’t will your way to height. You can’t will your way to bone structure. Early in Brodie's ultimate career he had a reputation for being lazy (basically the wide receiver who half-asses blocking).

None of this is to say he doesn’t work hard, at disc golf or anything else. It just ignores the Rudys of the world who are “five foot nothing ... weigh a hundred nothing”. They bust their ass and get in for two plays at the end of their senior season. That’s just life.

I work from home, have a decent sized back yard, make good money, have kids who are out of the house, I can literally play every day and find time and money for lessons. That gives me great advantages over someone working two retail jobs just to make ends meet for their family when it comes to getting better at disc golf. Someone might have exactly the same physical attributes I do, but find it exceedingly hard to get better at any sort of pace.

I’ve also had multiple surgeries in the past several years to correct physical ailments. No way I could walk a disc golf course at this point if I hadn’t.

It’s a delicate balance between motivating people to do more and recognizing how much more it takes one person to do half as much as someone else.

Ryan P. 06-09-2021 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rastnav (Post 3726859)
Itís a delicate balance between motivating people to do more and recognizing how much more it takes one person to do half as much as someone else.

This is the crux of the issue. Brodie has one perspective on this, while many people have other perspectives. Seems like we as a society need to be patient and seek understanding with each other, especially on the internet. Both Brodie and these other people have helpful perspectives, but the sound byte nonsense that gets headlines is unhelpful. Real discussions like the one Brodie had on reddit is what will help us.

Emoney 06-09-2021 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan P. (Post 3726995)
Real discussions like the one Brodie had on reddit is what will help us.

Lmao

txmxer 06-10-2021 12:28 AM

This popped up on YouTube for me today. Seems appropriate.

https://youtu.be/3LopI4YeC4I

Ryan P. 06-10-2021 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by txmxer (Post 3727123)
This popped up on YouTube for me today. Seems appropriate.

https://youtu.be/3LopI4YeC4I

TLDR?

Discette 06-10-2021 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryan P. (Post 3727199)




People who acknowledge luck plays a roll in their success are more likeable than people who believe they are successful because they are smarter and/or work harder.

hurricaine 06-10-2021 10:40 AM

disc golf has the softest fans out there no doubt

txmxer 06-10-2021 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Discette (Post 3727205)
People who acknowledge luck plays a roll in their success are more likeable than people who believe they are successful because they are smarter and/or work harder.

Probably.

The video is more making the point that even if luck is only a fraction of the recipe for success, it plays an outsized role in said success.

txmxer 06-10-2021 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryan P. (Post 3727199)
TLDR?

Itís a video. TLDW?

ru4por 06-10-2021 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by hurricaine (Post 3727206)
disc golf has the softest fans out there no doubt

Your taking a position that disc golf hooligans should become the norm? :confused:

txmxer 06-10-2021 12:46 PM

Troll train?

Ryan P. 06-10-2021 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by txmxer (Post 3727215)
Itís a video. TLDW?

haha, potentially. I think that TLDR has become a "word" and no longer refers only to the meaning of its acronym. It's similar to how a "bulldozer" no longer has anything to do with a bull, although originally it did.

</linguistic rabbit trail>

Hampstead 06-10-2021 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by hurricaine (Post 3727206)
disc golf has the softest fans out there no doubt





You ain't no hurricane, you're just flaccid air

brutalbrutus 06-12-2021 12:52 AM

-1 1023 t-14th in the first round of the Resistance Open

txmxer 06-12-2021 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryan P. (Post 3727237)
haha, potentially. I think that TLDR has become a "word" and no longer refers only to the meaning of its acronym. It's similar to how a "bulldozer" no longer has anything to do with a bull, although originally it did.

</linguistic rabbit trail>

Now Iím wondering about the history of bulldozer.

You can get the gist of the video pretty quickly. And, if need be just speed it up a little.

ChrisWoj 06-12-2021 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan P. (Post 3727237)
haha, potentially. I think that TLDR has become a "word" and no longer refers only to the meaning of its acronym. It's similar to how a "bulldozer" no longer has anything to do with a bull, although originally it did.

</linguistic rabbit trail>

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Originally Posted by txmxer (Post 3727736)
Now Iím wondering about the history of bulldozer.

You can get the gist of the video pretty quickly. And, if need be just speed it up a little.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/bulldoze - not the prettiest history.

txmxer 06-12-2021 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisWoj (Post 3727784)
https://www.etymonline.com/word/bulldoze - not the prettiest history.

That is bad. I had no idea, but it is interesting how words evolve.

brutalbrutus 06-12-2021 07:03 PM

-6 1039. t-10th at -7 with a couple groups still to finish.

Ryan P. 06-12-2021 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by txmxer (Post 3727791)
That is bad. I had no idea, but it is interesting how words evolve.

Thankfully everyone seems to have forgotten that history (I had no clue either). Otherwise we'd have to change yet another word.

brutalbrutus 06-13-2021 06:00 PM

Yuck... He was doing ok in the rain till he took a double circle 7 on no10...


...he did fight back with a park job on the 470ish par 3 11th though

MiDiscsAreCold 06-20-2021 04:12 PM

Ball Golf.

GoobyPls 06-20-2021 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MiDiscsAreCold (Post 3729944)
Ball Golf.

He's insufferable at this point.

robdeforge 06-21-2021 08:45 AM

I don't particularly like Brodie, and this is a dumb hill to die on IMO. but he's also right... there's tennis and there's table tennis. if somebody asks me if I want to play tennis, I don't have to ask "fuzzy ball tennis/real tennis or tabble tennis?"

biscoe 06-21-2021 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3730057)
I don't particularly like Brodie, and this is a dumb hill to die on IMO. but he's also right... there's tennis and there's table tennis. if somebody asks me if I want to play tennis, I don't have to ask "fuzzy ball tennis/real tennis or tabble tennis?"

I agree completely. I freaking hate hearing people say "ball golf."

MiDiscsAreCold 06-21-2021 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by biscoe (Post 3730062)
I agree completely. I freaking hate hearing people say "ball golf."

Ball Golf

aredoubles 06-21-2021 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3730057)
I don't particularly like Brodie, and this is a dumb hill to die on IMO. but he's also right... there's tennis and there's table tennis. if somebody asks me if I want to play tennis, I don't have to ask "fuzzy ball tennis/real tennis or tabble tennis?"

What if you were at the Table Tennis World Championships, at a sports complex shared with tennis players?

If the PDGA had said 'the course is closed to golfers', that would've been extremely confusing to some. Clarity is always welcome. How should they have communicated it instead?

Edit: I guess they could've said something like 'Mulligans is only open for disc golf practice rounds, it is closed to golfers', but even that could be confusing to some people. Anyway yes, this is a really dumb hill to die on.

autocrosscrx 06-21-2021 10:12 AM

One of my favorite things is when someone on the local facebook group asked if someone wants to get in a round of golf. And then someone who actually wants to play golf agrees and then confusion ensues when one party names off a bunch of golf courses and then the other party thinks those are all new to them disc golf courses. Or vice versa.

We can't have golf, golf was here first.

autocrosscrx 06-21-2021 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by aredoubles (Post 3730077)
What if you were at the Table Tennis World Championships, at a sports complex shared with tennis players?

Nobody says tennis court tennis.

There is tennis and there is table tennis. There is golf and there is disc golf.

MiDiscsAreCold 06-21-2021 10:23 AM

Ball Golf.

MiDiscsAreCold 06-21-2021 10:24 AM

Black Lives Matter.

BeRReGoN 06-21-2021 10:28 AM

Ping Pong, Frisbee Golf

txmxer 06-21-2021 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by aredoubles (Post 3730077)
What if you were at the Table Tennis World Championships, at a sports complex shared with tennis players?

If the PDGA had said 'the course is closed to golfers', that would've been extremely confusing to some. Clarity is always welcome. How should they have communicated it instead?

Edit: I guess they could've said something like 'Mulligans is only open for disc golf practice rounds, it is closed to golfers', but even that could be confusing to some people. Anyway yes, this is a really dumb hill to die on.

Ping pong!

txmxer 06-21-2021 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BeRReGoN (Post 3730087)
Ping Pong, Frisbee Golf

Dang. Should have scrolled down. You beat me to it.

txmxer 06-21-2021 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by autocrosscrx (Post 3730078)

We can't have golf, golf was here first.

True.

ChrisWoj 06-21-2021 11:02 AM

I had a ping pong table in my basement growing up.

Are you with me frolfers?

uncle pennybags 06-21-2021 11:08 AM

My course borders the local stick golf course. They called their game "Real Golf".

We just moved along.

pjhayes7 06-21-2021 11:09 AM

Frolf ftw!


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