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booter 11-14-2011 08:33 AM

discmania FD- jackal ...its coming
 
http://www.discmania.net/2011/11/14/fd-in-the-works/

New fd(fairway driver) coming finally! Im anxious, i hope its like a leo,jls type. The pi shows a flat wing so i hope its true.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1221177700.jpg

toothyfish 11-14-2011 08:37 AM

Looks like a bead at the base, or at least some type of radius.

jtbingster 11-14-2011 08:39 AM

^^Like a Leo...? Maybe?

bsstarnesj 11-14-2011 08:51 AM

hopefully

GLong 11-14-2011 09:16 AM

comparing rim size, it's bigger than both the eagle and leopard. and only 1cm smaller than a PD.

Der Alte 11-14-2011 09:22 AM

There is already a Leo in different kind of plastics. I wish that eventually Jackal turns out to be something like a Gazelle, but in premium plastics!

chickenonabun 11-14-2011 09:23 AM

Why can't these guys just make a speed 7 disc? speed 9 discs arent really fairway drivers and speed 8 is more of a tweener disc for most people.

ian. 11-14-2011 09:23 AM

very nice .. have really liked most of the discmania stuff i have thrown so looked forward to checking it out

toothyfish 11-14-2011 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chickenonabun (Post 1087099)
Why can't these guys just make a speed 7 disc? speed 9 discs arent really fairway drivers and speed 8 is more of a tweener disc for most people.

I bet it will be a speed 7, even if the "official" measurement comes up slightly higher.

That slight bead has me thinking faster Gazelle or Cheetah...

Technohic 11-14-2011 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toothyfish (Post 1087134)
I bet it will be a speed 7, even if the "official" measurement comes up slightly higher.

That slight bead has me thinking faster Gazelle or Cheetah...

If its flat and P-line, I am there.

discspeed 11-14-2011 10:27 AM

I'm excited about this disc, especially seeing that pic. Personally I've found little use for speed 7 discs and I like this new class of faster discs with fairway-driver predictability and line shaping ability. I can throw them with less effort, which is something I'm embracing as I get older and more experienced. Since DM already has a completely overlapping line of speed 9-10 discs (CD/TD/PD), I'm hoping it is designed for a shorter range than those, or is at least in some ways much different.

curveball4 11-14-2011 10:29 AM

Pro Cheetah or Gazelle would be cool, I mean ones that aren't outrageous $ from the online store

SirRaph 11-14-2011 10:38 AM

Tough to tell from the pic, but it looks like the lower section of the wing has that Leo-esque angle change. Looks like fun!

booter 11-14-2011 10:43 AM

Im hoping for a leo wing. Mmmmm mini td?

Technohic 11-14-2011 10:46 AM

Leo wing sounds great at first; but then I wonder what it would offer me that a Leo already doesn't. Maybe just a little faster?

Triflusal 11-14-2011 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by discspeed (Post 1087160)
I'm excited about this disc, especially seeing that pic. Personally I've found little use for speed 7 discs and I like this new class of faster discs with fairway-driver predictability and line shaping ability. I can throw them with less effort, which is something I'm embracing as I get older and more experienced. Since DM already has a completely overlapping line of speed 9-10 discs (CD/TD/PD), I'm hoping it is designed for a shorter range than those, or is at least in some ways much different.

it seems like if this is a true speed 8 It will overlap a lot with TD/CDs (if it is stable to understable)

they should have slapped the gazelle bottom on an anhyzer top

Triflusal 11-14-2011 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Technohic (Post 1087186)
Leo wing sounds great at first; but then I wonder what it would offer me that a Leo already doesn't. Maybe just a little faster?

this is actually a good question. One could argue that innovas fairway drivers are the best category of discs it makes. Its got the gazelle, leopard, eagle, teebird, TL, EL, banshee, whippet, and firebird. Even the cheetah is good if you are a low power player (I think that after around 300'ish feet they get unpredictably flippy). Those molds all shine compared to other molds from other companies in its class. Most other molds are either clones or slight variations of these. basically they are a bunch of teeagles and leopard/TL mixes. So it will be interesting to see what discmania tries to bring to the table that innova hasn't.

Scared_Discless 11-14-2011 11:40 AM

hmm...it sounds to me like DM is looking to make a disc similar to a River.

Sight unseen - I'm in for a test drive.

GLong 11-14-2011 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triflusal (Post 1087187)
they should have slapped the gazelle bottom on an anhyzer top

agreed!

New013 11-14-2011 12:07 PM

the specs seem to make it a domier TL ... yea screw that.

Sid the Kid 11-14-2011 12:27 PM

I know I'll get one. Rim kinda looks more like an Eagle X than a Leopard to me.

Eagle X + Anhyzer top...yeah baby!

booter 11-14-2011 12:32 PM

There isnt a notch at the end of the wing so no, not an eagle x. Its understable/stable according to the link so a leo/jls is probably what its most likely gonna be

Trey133 11-14-2011 12:35 PM

Its going to be amazing and fill in a slot that I can't wait to fill in!

If it performs like expected, I might take out TDs cause well...

Sid the Kid 11-14-2011 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booter (Post 1087346)
There isnt a notch at the end of the wing so no, not an eagle x. Its understable/stable according to the link so a leo/jls is probably what its most likely gonna be

Can't believe I missed that. A man can dream...

The rim size is bigger than the leo and jls, so probably more like an EL or TL. Either way I'm all over it.

I need more coffee...

booter 11-14-2011 12:42 PM

I doubt these would replace tds in ur bag too trey. I tried replacing tds with a jls and it wasnt happenin. Only time will tell

Acerace619 11-14-2011 01:53 PM

TD's will always have a place in my bag now since I replaced my Star Roadrunners with them. Sure these will be more stable and be more like a Leo. Looking forward to more Discmania goodness.

EL-KABONG 11-14-2011 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scared_Discless (Post 1087255)
hmm...it sounds to me like DM is looking to make a disc similar to a River.

Sight unseen - I'm in for a test drive.

My first thought when I saw the dome lifting that wing off the table top.
Maybe a slightly more stable river style disc?

Mike C 11-14-2011 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triflusal (Post 1087192)
this is actually a good question. One could argue that innovas fairway drivers are the best category of discs it makes. Its got the gazelle, leopard, eagle, teebird, TL, EL, banshee, whippet, and firebird. Even the cheetah is good if you are a low power player (I think that after around 300'ish feet they get unpredictably flippy). Those molds all shine compared to other molds from other companies in its class. Most other molds are either clones or slight variations of these. basically they are a bunch of teeagles and leopard/TL mixes. So it will be interesting to see what discmania tries to bring to the table that innova hasn't.

Whoah whoah whoah, what kind of Cheetahs were you throwing? Last Cheetah I threw (New DX from a recent run) flew beautiful 400' S-curves. Cheetahs are pretty nice drivers that are underrated these days because of all the other good options out there.

ian. 11-14-2011 03:03 PM

cant wait ... i threw TD's for a bit before i discd down and loved them ... was getting some of my longest throws to date.. and im down to try anything in that speed 7ish range :thmbup:

BrotherDave 11-14-2011 03:15 PM

The stamp's already been leaked:



http://www.themoviescene.co.uk/reviews/_img/537-2.jpg

booter 11-14-2011 03:25 PM

Fail brodephius

Trey133 11-14-2011 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booter (Post 1087377)
I doubt these would replace tds in ur bag too trey. I tried replacing tds with a jls and it wasnt happenin. Only time will tell

Time will definitely tell good sir. You're probably right that they won't push the TD out of the bag, but I bet I'd pull the FD out a lot more in place of the TD :)

Flick Maniac 11-15-2011 03:16 AM

Dare I dream of a fairway driver that stays balls straight or at will, with adding power, does not "flip" but slowly turns predictably to the right, possibly straightening but not fading back. And takes a healthy dose of wind without freaking out. AND does this out of the box and stays the same unless driven over with a dumper truck.

And all this at my power level (~350). Mr Sandman, bring me a dream!

Hell, lets dream of a disc that hits the chains as soon as I pull it out of the bag. :hfive:

ian.w 11-15-2011 07:29 AM

^you just described a teebird

Triflusal 11-15-2011 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike C (Post 1087542)
Whoah whoah whoah, what kind of Cheetahs were you throwing? Last Cheetah I threw (New DX from a recent run) flew beautiful 400' S-curves. Cheetahs are pretty nice drivers that are underrated these days because of all the other good options out there.

pretty beat DX ones I guess. I've never tried a premium plastic one

GLong 11-15-2011 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trey133 (Post 1087352)
Its going to be amazing and fill in a slot that I can't wait to fill in!

twss

Sean40474 11-15-2011 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Der Alte (Post 1087098)
There is already a Leo in different kind of plastics. I wish that eventually Jackal turns out to be something like a Gazelle, but in premium plastics!

We were talking about this months ago on DGR and knew it was a matter of time before Discmania made an FD. I even posted on Discmania's Facebook and told everyone they're making one (as a joke), they responded with "where did you hear this".....or something like that.

Anyway, I'm stoked for this and I'm hoping it is something like a Gazelle. I'd like to see a premium version of this disc type. Not domey like the Star Gazelles at the IFS. I'd love to throw a star version that is more workable than a champ or star Teebird. If it is anything of this nature, then it'll be a fixture in my bag. As a lot of you know, DX Gazelles lose stability way too fast and can become unpredictable in the middle of a round. Maybe a Teebird bottom and the anhyzer top?

Trey133 11-15-2011 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLong (Post 1088650)
twss

Zing!

Flick Maniac 11-16-2011 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ian.w (Post 1088473)
^you just described a teebird

Good to know. I'm currently restraining myself from buying more plastic (and it's off-season here in Finland anyway) but Teebird has been on my list to try for a while now, and this gives it more support.

teebob 11-16-2011 01:46 PM

Seems very close to a QJLS by measurements. Just like pd and olf are very close.

QJLS 176.0 21.2 1.8 1.1 18.0 1.6 5.2 30.75 9.19
fdja 176.0 21.2 1.8 1.1 17.5 1.6 34.75 9.53

Orion LF 175.1 21.1 1.5 1.2 17.4 1.9 5.7 27.25 10.32
PD - 175.1 21.1 1.7 1.2 17.3 1.9 5.7 28.25 11.11

Seems like mischeif to me.


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