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funguy 09-10-2020 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by l'alcooltue (Post 3630061)
i think it would be fun if mvp ever fleshed out their lineup. they have molds and they have plastic variations.. COMBINE THEM.

fission putters

electron drivers

eclipse everything

SOFT NEUTRON

the bros are too worried about consistency. i understand its their company but i personally love that i have a first run shock with turn, and a regular shock with massive overstability. oh wait they discontinued the shock completely didnt they.. my whole bag is MVP and there are only a few discs that arent OOP...

Fission Putters -- might be fun but not sure there is a real need especially with Ions/Anodes in the 150s.

Electron Drivers -- there already is the Electron Volt that is pretty versatile. Yeah, maybe a couple more but the Electron Volt hasn't been a great seller for them. They do beat in really fast.

Eclipse -- these just don't seem to sell. The price point is also a few dollars more and I think that many small pro-shops just don't carry it so inventory sits. Yeah, Eclipse is a bit more stable than most of the other plastics so it would be nice but I just don't see it.

Soft Neutron -- I agree. I wish there were more in this plastic but to be quite honest, most new Neutron is closer to soft than OG Neutron that was hard as bricks. Plasma is also closer to Soft Neutron, depending on color.

What they need to get out are more mids, especially US mids. Since last year's announcement all we have had is the Reactor, which is good, but way too much overlap with the Matrix. A Theory/Vertex replacement needs to be out soon.

KrisDG 09-10-2020 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jakebake91 (Post 3629776)
Just out of curiosity, how far do you throw your matrix? Thrown flat, my proton matrix doesn't turn at all. I've always wondered if I'm not throwing it far enough, or if it's a touch more stable than a lot of them.

I'd say that mine begins turning on about 65-70m FH or on 80-85m BH throws. It's well worked in disc. It sure wasn't that flippy when new.
The Reactor is still quite new'ish, so this is partly the reason why my Matrix is flippy compared to my reactor.
Neither of them is a good wind fighter. On a windy day, I throw a fission or neutron Volt instead for those straight mid lines. My Pyro is still too stable for those.

jakebake91 09-10-2020 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by funguy (Post 3630083)
Fission Putters -- might be fun but not sure there is a real need especially with Ions/Anodes in the 150s.

Electron Drivers -- there already is the Electron Volt that is pretty versatile. Yeah, maybe a couple more but the Electron Volt hasn't been a great seller for them. They do beat in really fast.

Eclipse -- these just don't seem to sell. The price point is also a few dollars more and I think that many small pro-shops just don't carry it so inventory sits. Yeah, Eclipse is a bit more stable than most of the other plastics so it would be nice but I just don't see it.

Soft Neutron -- I agree. I wish there were more in this plastic but to be quite honest, most new Neutron is closer to soft than OG Neutron that was hard as bricks. Plasma is also closer to Soft Neutron, depending on color.

What they need to get out are more mids, especially US mids. Since last year's announcement all we have had is the Reactor, which is good, but way too much overlap with the Matrix. A Theory/Vertex replacement needs to be out soon.

You are right in your assessment! I also didn't realize ions/Anodes came that light. I bag both of those molds too. That would satisfy my urges just fine haha. I would love a truly US mid. I used to bag an Alias, which was dropped for my plaz axis. I keep hoping to break that axis into something a little easier to flip, but it's taking too dang long. Considering trying it with an E matrix. But for now, I'm getting by fine.

jakebake91 09-10-2020 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KrisDG (Post 3630107)
I'd say that mine begins turning on about 65-70m FH or on 80-85m BH throws. It's well worked in disc. It sure wasn't that flippy when new.
The Reactor is still quite new'ish, so this is partly the reason why my Matrix is flippy compared to my reactor.
Neither of them is a good wind fighter. On a windy day, I throw a fission or neutron Volt instead for those straight mid lines. My Pyro is still too stable for those.

I hate the dam metric system lol

We are throwing them pretty much the same distance. 230- 265' is about my comfort range with it. Mines been bagged awhile, but hasn't taken too much abuse. It is also proton, so the abuse likely wouldn't matter anyways haha.

funguy 09-10-2020 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jakebake91 (Post 3630109)
You are right in your assessment! I also didn't realize ions/Anodes came that light. I bag both of those molds too. That would satisfy my urges just fine haha. I would love a truly US mid. I used to bag an Alias, which was dropped for my plaz axis. I keep hoping to break that axis into something a little easier to flip, but it's taking too dang long. Considering trying it with an E matrix. But for now, I'm getting by fine.

I use my 150s Plasma Anodes to warm up or play catch. Great glide on them. Axis is good, but also going OP and it can be sneaky long. The FR Axis was my first ever MVP disc and while it holds a good anny line it still has some fade all these years later, especially if the nose is up even the tiniest bit. Electron Matrix has filled by US gap along with a Theory (which I have never really fallen in love with because of the wing profile). They need to have a Reactor/Matrix like disc but US with little to no LSS -- 4/5/-2 or -3/0 -- but that resists turn and burn.

jakebake91 09-10-2020 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by funguy (Post 3630115)
I use my 150s Plasma Anodes to warm up or play catch. Great glide on them. Axis is good, but also going OP and it can be sneaky long. The FR Axis was my first ever MVP disc and while it holds a good anny line it still has some fade all these years later, especially if the nose is up even the tiniest bit. Electron Matrix has filled by US gap along with a Theory (which I have never really fallen in love with because of the wing profile). They need to have a Reactor/Matrix like disc but US with little to no LSS -- 4/5/-2 or -3/0 -- but that resists turn and burn.

Plasma Anodes are oop now though, right? I know the plasma ions are (RIP). If my plasma axis ever gets lost, I'm going to go the E matrix route and hope for the best. A matrix-esque 4/5/-2.5/0 disc would immediately find a home in my bag. Even a good 0/0 could work.

funguy 09-10-2020 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jakebake91 (Post 3630121)
Plasma Anodes are oop now though, right? I know the plasma ions are (RIP). If my plasma axis ever gets lost, I'm going to go the E matrix route and hope for the best. A matrix-esque 4/5/-2.5/0 disc would immediately find a home in my bag. Even a good 0/0 could work.

Yep they are, sadly. But there are Electrons in Ions that are 150-class. Not sure about Anodes in Electron that low.

jakebake91 09-10-2020 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by funguy (Post 3630127)
Yep they are, sadly. But there are Electrons in Ions that are 150-class. Not sure about Anodes in Electron that low.

Hmmm. Imma have to look. The lightest I seen (without really looking) was 163. Thanks for the tip!

Marmoset 09-10-2020 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by l'alcooltue (Post 3630061)
...electron drivers...

I’m all for this. I’ve asked them several times for this.
Specifically, I’d love to see the servo, resistor, and crave in electron plastic. Love those speed 6 molds <3

Emoney 09-10-2020 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Marmoset (Post 3630142)
Iím all for this. Iíve asked them several times for this.
Specifically, Iíd love to see the servo, resistor, and crave in electron plastic. Love those speed 6 molds <3

Fission Speed 13 drivers!!! I been patiently waiting to see this. They could be the farthest flying drivers in disc golf.

Fission Mayhem or Octane


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