Im throwing the proper way. I haven't videoed myself in a while since I slowed everything down but I look like everyone else. The difference is I understand the mechanics and sequence correctly in my head. That gives me an edge moving forwards.

Film yourself jumping back and forth laterally, then watch it in slow mo. Better yet post it here. I bet you see some hip rotation. Feel ain’t real

Someone correct me if I'm wrong please:

Because when the front heel goes down to brace, and the back heel goes up to deweight, the hips are automatically turned just enough to spin around the center of gravity. They are never supposed to be turned forcefully.

When a correct throw is being performed:
The brace will stop the front hip in place and even push back just a an inch or two. And the back hip will start turning around the center. It's a spring! Everything else will follow effortlessly.
This needs to happen after brace, or else there will be no spring effect. If you turn your hips forcefully before brace it translates to:
*Trying to jump on a trampoline by pushing the leg straight forcefully before you have even landed from your previous jump
*Trying to shoot an arrow on a bow by drawing it back and then push it forward as fast as you can.
*Trying to make a push up by rotating your forearms and upper arms around your elbows and shoulders. This even sound confusing typing it out.


For a beginner it may seem like if you just try to forcefully magnify how your body reacts to an athletic skill. Then it will be more powerful.
What really is powerful is using forces to your advantage. It's much more powerful to let the hips brace and spin around the short lever that is being created if you travel forward and brace hard with just a little offset.

So you can successfully generate a ground up kinetic chain balanced on your lead leg now? Or not? I think that is probably one surefire way to ensure you have moved on from the deliberate rotation paradigm.

You really need an anatomy lesson. I am guessing you are watching my rear shoulder going from external to internal rotation as my hand moves. That is not a shoulder turn. My collarbone moves in sync with my hip, frame by frame.

It´s possible you just have keep your legs straight and stiff. Tip your upper body back and forth, dunno why anyone would do that.

https://youtu.be/TReQAwxCr7M

I was trying really hard to stop my lateral shift and get that rotation. Never happened. My next video will be me doing the same but trying to rotate somehow once I land on the front leg.

You are falling over the top, not bracing correctly. Brace more like a hockey stop on ice skates, then extend the lead knee.

You are also going to have to load your shoulders in order to really feel the transfer of lateral momentum into the uncorking rotation in the hit.

It’s tricky for sure, so maybe I can shed some light - also none of this is meant in trying to make your thoughts sound ridiculous, just sharing understanding that I’ve developed over the years of playing.

To answer the other post’s question, that would be the moment before release of a backhand drive, disc being thrown directly at the camera (more or less)

It’s really easy to feel the “counterweight” feel when trying to pull a post out of the ground on one leg, like I had done in the photo.

The spine cannot be the center of rotation because it is not what’s grounded. The right foot, whether it be the heel or ball of the foot, creates the center of rotation. So that accounts for B and somewhat C.
With the right leg, which I’ll refer to as the brace from here on, being the center of rotation, then that puts the right arm on one side of the COR and the spine/trail leg/hip/head/rest of the body on the other side. I want to reiterate-the spine can not be the center of rotation in order to maximize efficiency. Center of rotation comes from the ground up, which HAS to be the heel, to the knee, to the right femur entering the pelvis. That’s the center of rotation.

So with knowledge of momentum and physics which you have, then you can deduce from there:
1. In order to be balanced, equal and opposite forces must be in place.
2. The weight of the hip and direction of the brace’s force (up and to the left in the photo I posted) move one side to the left
3. In order to stay balanced, the only force that can counter the trail side’s weight would be...
The arm, swung by the lat. That gives an incredible amount of counterweight force to the only thing on the opposite side of the brace, the arm. So in order to stay balanced, the arm swings (equal and opposite) and launches the disc with extraordinary force, and relative ease.

Maybe that answered your question? I hope so haha