Oh, I agree. Just wondering if any of the discs I listed are between Reactor and Bobcat.

Stop being helpful, I'm. Busy getting drunk.. He needs a first run vector at 177g exactly, with partial dome and high PLH.

E=Monocacy;3583447]I get that. And I haven't fixed my suckage.

But if you have discs that are that close, probably more useful to pick one and learn to work the angles to get the flight you want.[/QUOTE]

....but everyone knows OS mids are useless.

:D

Ive been getting similar results. Right now the reactor sits perfectly between a fresh proton matrix and a beat electron matrix. Lots of glide, very workable not as os as my matrix but still handles some wind. Loving it as a workhorse. Very esp buzzz like.

I've been trying to get some footage of the reactor but my phone cameras lensea was broken so all the good windy shots are uselesas. I'm going to the field shortly with a new phone and I'll throw a reactor alongside my proton and electron matrices. Someone just found my axis as well and I have a vector, and Buzzzs, roc3, wasps, gote, just dont have a truth but I'd say it's less stable than an emac, I get a decent turn out if it at 300+ with any wind at all and where my matrix will shrug off 20km/hr headwind the reactor will not. That being said I think if you're looking to cycle somethin the matrix is the disc you want, but for a seasoned matrix type flight out of the box I think the reactor is a nice option and has really become my workhorse off almost every tee here in the Rockies.

It's also comfortable in the hand and flies really far. I wouldn't say its better than a buzzz but I would certainly compare them.

The ohm is also fantastic, never made so many crazy putts in my life plus the thing is soooooo reliable in any kind of weather. Kicked my atoms out and with an entropy in the bag may kick my envy too but for now they're still there. Ohm / entropy is a pretty solid pairing, althou GB my envy gets some turn for shaping where the ohm just flies its line solidly so theres still room for an envy in the bag I think lol

Agree on this one. The Ohm/Entropy combo is great. I have 2 Electron Entropys and that was the game changer. No more Envy. And cycling the Electron Entropys will be great. They beat in to be super super straight. Nice compliment to the premium plastic.

I really like the Ohm, played yesterday, too many beer, did real well with the electron Envy.. I think it's still better than the Ohm but it took 4 solid months to get there. A cycle is handy, but Im not the best cycler.

The Electron Entropy fits Envy slot for me. Slightly beaten it it flies like a beat on OS Proton Envy. When new they are a tick more stable but beat in pretty fast. A beat Electron Envy flies like a Proxy for me. Right now bagging 1 Ohm, 2 Electron Entropys, and one Neutron Entropy. I am still thinking of adding in a Proxy because I might miss the US slot. I am not sure that the Electron Entropy will beat in that much. While the Ohm holds any line, it doesn't have as much of that late flight turn like the Proxy does. Perhaps a beat in one or if they are released in electron. The Envy might make it's way back in but the Electron Entropy is more consistent especially with head/cross winds.

I could see that.. I don't get huge wind but the Entropy has a "second bag" optional spot. It's close for when I want to play with it. I can comfortably drop my beat soft electron Envy for an Ohm (which has less glide, so far). As the Ohm beats in it might be able to turn anhyzer from flat, that's one shot I would miss with the Spin..

What I'm getting at is there is very close similarities in the Ohm, Envy, Entropy family. You can just tell they are all related. They're a sweet bunch.

I see them as distinct. The Ohm is unique in and of itself. It is the first true point and shoot disc from MVP outside of a rare early run of Anodes. Sure some molds could beat in that way, but there hasn't been a disc that off the shelf holds any angle. I am curious too to see if it beats into a late fade from a hyzer to flip release. The Entropy is also unique. In premium, it is way more OS than anything in the Envy class. This has changed with the Electron Entropy. Off the shelf it has more glide than even a beat Neutron Entropy. It flies like a fresh straight to +1 fade Envy on every flight. The lower profile also suits it well for forehands. I tend to release my forehands with some hyzer. For that reason I like disc that are stable to slightly US. The Neutron Entropy was good for forehands, but for me, they were pure hyzers. To get them to flat, I would have to release with some anhyzer, which I find harder to throw with a forehand. As a result, it was more of a utility disc and harder to get a pure straight to fade flight. Not so with a beat in Electron Entropy. I can give it a slight forehand hyzer release, get it to come to flat and ride that for 85% of the flight before fading. It has great grip as well. Hopefully this pandemic will abate and they can be added to the schedule. It will be a huge favorite I predict.