That's too bad, you could always contact mvp, I've heard things about them replacing the weird ones. Even one I saw L2 out of the gyro box the guy was raving about how well MVP treated him and sent a replacement

I'm definitely in the wave camp over the vanishes. Both good discs but the wave was better. Most of my waves have been as expected. Got a freaky blue plasma pfn, cursed by Monocacy so that it would always fly 30' too deep. He musta beat just enough. It's my longest/ straightest/glidiest one I own.

I get a decent amount of flight variation plastic to plastic and with weight differences on the waves. The plasma wave should almost have different flight numbers.

Yeah some of em are a toss up but generally the half slot jump between MVP/Axiom is usually a fairly close jump. I'm still not sure about the insanity being a broken in inertia. Alike sort of, they kind of relate but it's a different flight. I could power up a 155 inertia and it's dead straight, I can still hook good anny's or hyzer. A heavy inertia I can cheese on an anhyzer and still get a straight path, small turns and a small but fast fade (kinda dumps).

With an insanity at the same light weight it's a wider but still tight S ( with the right disc that's not too worn in). A worn one will wander further anhyzer and possibly pan wider as well. More power means more turn, sometimes a lot more turn. More glide as it hyzers out too less dump, but if you plan your anny arc to hit closer to the ground you can still thread a straight shot.

Both great discs in their own right, but still different... not quite different enough to pack both in a small bag though. A lot of different results depending on how you throw. If you like a touch of anny and nose down or a straight thumper- inertia. If you like a carefully planned anhyzer flattish long arc or touch of hyzerflip then- insanity.

Lol I’m trying to prevent a $200 plastic purchase where I grab one of everything that’s been out of stock since I started dabbling.

I went to one of the local shops around me recently and saw the wall fully stocked with all the molds and I actually said out loud to myself "No, you don't need all of them, just get one".

I escaped with two traces, two wraths, and an envy. I have now told myself i don't need any more.

I sent MVP and the retailer a note this morning. We'll see how it turns out. It was *immediately* apparent upon opening the mailer. Not the end of the world by any means but surprising when it's this obvious and on the contact surface that someone at some point wouldn't have said no and pulled it.

Yeah that seems pretty obvious. I am interested to see what they do as they tend to have a good history in resolving issues like this.

Haha I'm still trying to stick to my new years resolution, one a month. I'm a month ahead :D and it's only February.

They’ve already responded this morning. Good folks, and I’m still really excited about integrating the Wrath. It’s just going to take a little extra effort to find the starting line.

I think out of all the new releases the wrath is the one I’m most intrigued with. For it supposedly being a broken in tesla you wouldn’t guess that based on its shape. All the ones my shop had were pretty much board flat, looked kinda fireballish.

I did pick up a used bin low 170s proton tesla over the summer as well as a new upper 150’s cosmic neutron tesla. The CN is a fun disc to throw, it’ll go far on a good clean FH rip but if I’m having wrist roll issues that day it doesn’t get thrown. The proton faded more than I was expecting but still manages to get pretty decent distance. In reality it’s pretty similar flight wise to my newer run beefier proton and cosmic neutron volts, so I’ve been throwing the volts in that fd2 to pd type slot hoping to beat them in a bit and straighten them out.

I like the idea of a broken in Tesla but in reality I’m expecting these newer wraths to be fairly beefy to start. I wanna think most of the ones my shop had were upper 150’s to mid 160’s, I typically like drivers in the high 160’s and will do low 170’s depending on the disc.

Fireball/motion I’m not sure of. I bag firebirds and maxes, and my biggest concern about the fireball or motion is the nose shape…both are sharper noses than the fatboy blunt noses on the fb and max…which I think helps make them awesome FH roller discs. Local shop also had some of the new James Proctor metal flake maxes, which felt really nice.

I like the stability of the plasma insanities I picked up over the summer. Not flippy out of the box for me, thrown on a slight FH hyzer it’ll ride a nice tight s line. Newer run neutrons seemed to have a lower parting line, so probably go that route instead of virus/impulse.

I know people complain the newer craves aren’t as stable as the old ones. I like the flight of the newer ones, pretty much hyzerflip laserbeams, but not a ton different in flight from the heavier neutron relays I have. Anybody throw the new servos and compare to the newer craves? I know the resistors aren’t as beefy as they used to be, didn’t know what to expect from the servo.

Are y'all seeing Hexes in your shops with new stock?