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biscoe 03-27-2022 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Shallows (Post 3799624)
Thatís funny, the more Iíve time Iíve spent following each of them, the more Iíve come to your friends POV. Chris is a killer man. So good but cold-blooded.

Chris is also nice as can be.

pmay5 03-27-2022 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by R-Ogre (Post 3799596)
Because Twitter is a raging dumpster fire that brings out the absolute worst in people. There are a couple news accounts I check in on but I refuse to log back in and get sucked into the simian poo-flinging that happens in the comments.

I've heard that only 10-15% of people have a Tw account. Yet how many news stories do you hear, "Tw says ..." or "Tw thinks ...". Pretty small group of the population to base your story on. :thmbdown::(:sick::gross:

TurnedOver 03-27-2022 09:47 AM

Also, that 10-15% include all the journalists that write those news stories that say "Tw says..." or "Tw thinks...".

Alobar 03-27-2022 10:06 AM

I am no expert, but does anyone else think that Brodieís form still needs work?

It looks like heís not driving enough through the legs and lower body and is muscling the disc with his core.



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txmxer 03-27-2022 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Alobar (Post 3799699)
I am no expert, but does anyone else think that Brodieís form still needs work?

It looks like heís not driving enough through the legs and lower body and is muscling the disc with his core.



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He throws it a long way, so maybe it doesn't matter, but he looks pretty stiff to me. Maybe he needs to do yoga or something? It seems to be working okay for him, but I kind of think he could take another step up the ladder if he were more fluid.

autocrosscrx 03-27-2022 01:31 PM

Pay attention to how Brodie moves around setting up for scramble shots. I suspect his knees are in awful shape.

Alobar 03-27-2022 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by autocrosscrx (Post 3799746)
Pay attention to how Brodie moves around setting up for scramble shots. I suspect his knees are in awful shape.

Good call. That may be the source of what I think Iím seeing.

Still a fit, strong dude who can put some moves on a disc, but with some bad knees that limit full lower-body commit makes a lot of sense.




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shakatak 03-31-2022 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by txmxer (Post 3799594)
EDIT: on my PC, works like you said. Not sure why the twit app is such a PITA.

Yeah, the Twitter app on my Android phone sucks. When I refresh it, I get maybe the last hour refreshed. When I get past those new Tweets, it skips back to 24+ hour old posts.

Luckj 03-31-2022 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by autocrosscrx (Post 3799746)
Pay attention to how Brodie moves around setting up for scramble shots. I suspect his knees are in awful shape.

That's too bad. I don't have a strong opinion on him, but I do enjoy seeing good disc golf. He and Ezra have shown a path for late adapters to develop quickly and what natural athletes can do in the sport.

Horsman 03-31-2022 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Alobar (Post 3799699)
I am no expert, but does anyone else think that Brodieís form still needs work?

It looks like heís not driving enough through the legs and lower body and is muscling the disc with his core.



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I feel like thats just because of years of playing ultimate where you focus way more on upper body with the throw. In time I think he will break that habit and get his legs more engaged. But he has 500'+ of power and hes not even at his full potential yet, IMO.

SumnerH 04-24-2022 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Luckj (Post 3800636)
That's too bad. I don't have a strong opinion on him, but I do enjoy seeing good disc golf. He and Ezra have shown a path for late adapters to develop quickly and what natural athletes can do in the sport.

He shredded his knees playing Ultimate; that's basically why he quit that sport.

https://medium.com/@jingley22/the-pl...l-23759eedb232

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Smithís ascent to the top of his game came to a crushing stall in April of 2012, when Smith tore his meniscus while attempting to catch a soaring disc in the end zone... Smith sat out during both the 2013 and 2014 seasons to allow his knee to heal...Hopes were high for the Wildfireís 2015 season and for Smithís return. In April of that season however, Smith re-injured his knee. This time Smith tore his ACL...
He had at least 3 surgeries on the knees before they forced him out of the game.

autocrosscrx 04-25-2022 08:57 AM

It is also of note that in a recent video, both he and Ezra acknowledged that they weren't getting much power from their legs and felt that they could benefit from emulating Dickerson.

Streets 04-25-2022 09:03 AM

Is Brodie finishing high yet or is he still just painfully mediocre?

takman 04-25-2022 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Streets (Post 3805330)
Is Brodie finishing high yet or is he still just painfully mediocre?

Maybe somebody here can show you how to look up stats. He was 25th/119 this weekend in a DGPT event. Where did you finish?

Luckj 04-25-2022 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Streets (Post 3805330)
Is Brodie finishing high yet or is he still just painfully mediocre?

He's 60th in the world currently, right around guys like Michael Johansen, Zach Melton, and Andrew Fish. His average finish is 42nd and 1017 rated. The only player with a 6 digit PDGA number ranked higher than him is Ezra. So overall, he's a solid player who likely started playing too late to really climb the rankings but who has performed better than most players who started around the same time.
Sources:
https://www.pdga.com/united-states-tour-ranking-open
https://www.pdga.com/player/128378

BionicRib 04-25-2022 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Streets (Post 3805330)
Is Brodie finishing high yet or is he still just painfully mediocre?

You have high standards

glassila 04-28-2022 06:43 PM

With 3 holes to go he's having an excellent first round at the DDO. :clap:
Unfortunately, he hasn't been able to string 3 or 4 good rounds together.
With all the OB, I wouldn't think this would be a good course for Brodie, but so far so good. (it is very long though which should suit him)

txmxer 05-01-2022 07:53 PM

Going to grab a top 10 finish.

Three Putt 05-01-2022 07:57 PM

Five way tie for third is weird, but it's 3rd.

BionicRib 05-01-2022 08:58 PM

3rd at the ddo. That’s so mediocre…

txmxer 05-01-2022 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BionicRib (Post 3806648)
3rd at the ddo. Thatís so mediocreÖ

Who doesnít have a 3rd at DDO?

Superbford 05-02-2022 12:09 AM

He birdied the last four holes today to finish in that tie for third.... before the string of birdies he was tenth I believe. Pretty solid way to finish.

Hampstead 05-02-2022 12:16 AM

Good for him I reckon.

teemkey 05-02-2022 02:01 AM

With a 5-way tie for third that podium could be a super spreader event.

robdeforge 05-02-2022 05:22 PM

https://twitter.com/Brodiesmith21/st...C52fuA2psqAAAA

what a darkhorse move!!

glassila 05-02-2022 09:13 PM

Making the lead card for round 3, then staying on if for the final round! Well done Mr. Smith!:clap:

Flick Maniac 05-03-2022 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Three Putt (Post 3806639)
Five way tie for third is weird, but it's 3rd.

For Brodie haters it may help to think of it as "the spot just above being 8th" :)

robdeforge 05-04-2022 12:48 PM

I know it's technically true, but it's a little funny to me to call tying for 3rd with 4 other players Brodie's "first top 3 finish"

Emoney 05-04-2022 12:49 PM

3rd place dark horse ZFlx Zones for sale soon!

Chuch 05-04-2022 04:34 PM

Watched foundation's latest Debate Night on youtube and Brodie gave some really great insight into this weekend's event. Cell phones, OB, caddies etc...really good subjects when considering the growth of the sport. People definitely love to hate - maybe its his type A personality or his quick sponsorship, but I haven't seen one other piece of content online this year where a professional is dishing out this much knowledge, insight and thought into the professionalism of the sport. He's clearly taking it seriously and he's a pretty humble dude despite just trying to making a living and have a damn good time doing it. His knowledge of weekend sports, college sports and even professional sports gives him insight that many dudes just don't have. They aren't progressing the sport, nor will they. If professional frolfers want serious purses at these tournaments, and big contracts on salary, they need to be adding value somehow. To me, Brodie is doing that almost better than anyone.

One of the things I love about disc golf is that anyone can play. Dorks, nerds, professionals, hippies, young bucks, athletes, former athletes, dads, moms, kids, military etc... For me it's always fun to get to the course and realize that you can never judge a book by it's cover in disc golf. So for many to hate on Brodie because of this or that, seems to be hypocritical of what makes the game great to begin with.

Any Wysocki content three days after another win this weekend? Not that I know of. What is that/he doing for the sport? I could go on an on. I have decided after being on the foundation side of the fence for a while now, yet slightly skeptical of Brodie, that I am all for the dude. I hope he continues crushing with intent. The content that foundation puts out is solid and I wish those dudes success.

robdeforge 05-04-2022 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuch (Post 3807351)
he's a pretty humble dude

what definition of "humble" are you using?

Chuch 05-04-2022 05:06 PM

That's a fair question, but aren't most successful athletes confident? To some, the perception could be borderline cocky I guess. Go listen to the podcast man, its clearly a critical piece of content for him since he just finished his highest placing yet. I didnt hear anything that put me off. I also used "pretty" in my description, because I did admit I have been a bit skeptical of how things could turn out if he starts winning.

School me though...is there an example where you feel like he hasn't been humble?


Also, just for fun and to my point earlier - Wysock has a thread here that is 32 pages long (313 comments) vs Brodies thread with 376 pages (3751 comments). No one cares about Wysocki. No one is talking about Wysocki. Is he solid? Sure thing. Someone I get stoked to root on every weekend or have as a teamate? Dont know. The foundation guys got heckled last week for not giving Calvin enough love LOL. I mean, I like the guy and appreciate his game but no one is gonna love or be a super fan of Calvin. What would you talk about? If I were a business, I'd seriously also consider paying someone like Brodie early in hopes that he is someone who can finish well, work hard and grow the sport. To me, it looks like its working.

dmoore1998 05-04-2022 05:24 PM

Disclaimer: I know next to nothing about Brodie other than seeing him on the recent Big Money Skins match.

I was kind of expecting a big personality and thought at minimum he'd be a good watch given that the GK Skins matches are kind of the perfect outlet for big personalities. I don't know if he's just really introverted (that's certainly not the impression I have from the general scuttlebutt around him) or just intimidated by who he was with or being on camera or what...but he came across very quiet, humble, and definitely not an alpha (since that was the description of him a few posts prior).

I don't know what EXACTLY I was expecting, but I expected to have an opinion of him after watching the skins match. I thought maybe I'll like him, or maybe I'll think he's the villain. Maybe this was an aberration, but I left watching it thinking "I don't understand why anyone either likes or dislikes this guy, he barely talked and when he did it was standard disc-golf smalltalk". Maybe I'd just gotten the wrong impression from the kind of general chatter that made me think he was going to be some outsized personality who would at least be entertaining even if his disc golf might not be top notch compared to some of the top pros.

robdeforge 05-04-2022 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuch (Post 3807359)
School me though...is there an example where you feel like he hasn't been humble?

to do this, I'd first need to know what being humble means to you

ru4por 05-04-2022 06:02 PM

Another fanboi.

Nothing wrong with Brodie, nor his take on the game, but there are plenty of voices with more experience, success and business acumen that need to be given weight, as well.

Shallows 05-04-2022 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 3807369)
Another fanboi.

Nothing wrong with Brodie, nor his take on the game, but there are plenty of voices with more experience, success and business acumen that need to be given weight, as well.

Luckily itís not a zero sum game, and Brodieís contributions imo create more opportunity and platforms for those voices to express themselves. Itís all heat, all pub is good pub.

BillFleming 05-04-2022 06:46 PM

I think Brodie started off "I'm going to rule and change disc golf. I'm a star Ultimate Frisbee player and my skills and experience will make me a star disc golfer." Then he actually started playing. Now, time has passed, he's (probably) seen lots of posts about and against him; he's learned. And like most people, he can and has changed.

I met Brodie not long after he started disc golf. He came across (at least to me) that he had a "I'm a celebrity" attitude; especially since he was hanging out and learning from Paul McBeth. I wanted to ask him how he thought he would do that day and he turned his back on me. Okay, he wasn't talking to anyone else, or doing anything that would keep him from responding, but no problem. However, Paul McBeth and Hanna McBeth both took time to talk to me. I would like to meet Brodie now....I'd bet he would respond differently.

He still thinks he can change disc golf...and I believe his intentions are good. But they are based on his playing Ultimate and they are two different sports.

Chuch 05-27-2022 10:35 AM

For all the haters....

Bert taking the spotlight on foundation DG's Trevor Staub Show yesterday and referenced that playing with Brodie is what got him hooked up to get on the podcast. Just making the point that the dude is still doing a crap ton for the game. Just this week some great discussion on improving the game for tourney play on the Debate Night and then getting one of the biggest celebrities ever involved into the game on Trevor's podcast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOT24lYZo9U&t=608s

I don't think anyone will agree with even 80pct of all of Brodie's ramblings, but ya gotta give the guy credit. He is adding value to the game in a lot of ways that other pro's aren't. Hence...the contract and sponsorship. I can't hate the game.

BillFleming 05-27-2022 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuch (Post 3811890)
For all the haters....

Bert taking the spotlight on foundation DG's Trevor Staub Show yesterday and referenced that playing with Brodie is what got him hooked up to get on the podcast. Just making the point that the dude is still doing a crap ton for the game. Just this week some great discussion on improving the game for tourney play on the Debate Night and then getting one of the biggest celebrities ever involved into the game on Trevor's podcast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOT24lYZo9U&t=608s

I don't think anyone will agree with even 80pct of all of Brodie's ramblings, but ya gotta give the guy credit. He is adding value to the game in a lot of ways that other pro's aren't. Hence...the contract and sponsorship. I can't hate the game.

I believe the 'hate' came about because the moment he started playing disc golf he had an attitude that he was one of the best, he would turn the sport on it's head and get all the things he didn't like changed. He didn't wait until he showed he was good, he acted like he was one of the best from the very start.

There are videos where Brodie is getting started by Paul McBeth....Paul sets him up with discs, etc. Brodie already has an attitude at that point. I think he thought that his Ultimate experience would carry over to disc golf.

Then look at Paul Ulibarri's Scratch-to-Scratch series. He takes an athletic person, who had played Ultimate (although not as 'famous' as Brodie) and teaches him disc golf. He is thrilled to be learning from Uli and doesn't act like he's (the student) is one of the best.

Two different attitudes from people learning from some of the best instructors/players. I think that is what turned people off to Brodie. If he had come into the sport, learned from Paul McBeth, taken a year to play tournaments and prove himself before trying to change the sport....people would have had a different attitude about him. I know that when I met him for the first time when he was just getting started...he was snobbish and rude.

He seems to have learned and chilled out a bit. Some of his ideas are good and do-able...others probably not so do-able. But it's nice to hear other ideas, and more likely to be accepted now that he has played for more than a year and has more of an idea what the sport is like (and that it isn't Ultimate).

Dcinmd 05-27-2022 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuch (Post 3811890)
I can't hate the game.

But my trusty dusty urbandictionary tells me.

Don't hate the player hate the game.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...e%20the%20game

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