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Discmania_Support 02-18-2022 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DiscT (Post 3790874)
Any theories on why there are still several IS3s still available? First glow plastic, infamous DM signature disc, Eagle. I thought theyíd push.

Also, anyone have any thoughts/theories why DM has such limited color variety when it comes to their plastic? Everything has been pink and blue for quite some time. Special edition discs will yield different colors, but why?

Color glow is kind of tricky. There's a reason you don't see purple, yellow, orange or even more radical colors like grey or black because the glow portion of it is no longer effective. Some have been made in the past but pink and blue have proven to be the brightest glow versions other than simply white, of course.

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Originally Posted by Agarner14 (Post 3791044)
Yeah, it is the air transport that really bumps the price up. DM support posted on this thread about it a few weeks ago. I think Trilogy has a well established supply and production chain which DM lacks. So in order to get discs to the US for special releases they end up flying them over which increases the price. I assume they don't do this for the base line releases which is why those release dates keep getting pushed back.

Just my theory.

No one has a well established supply chain right now. :) Sea freight has been about as large of a gamble as any business can take. Our last container received in 2021 was shipped around February-March and arrived in December, normally taking about 8 weeks max. Most recent containers did seem to arrive in a more reliable time frame so it's possible that we could see some improvement in that regard with US ports.

Flick Maniac 02-18-2022 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Discmania_Support (Post 3791153)
Color glow is kind of tricky. There's a reason you don't see purple, yellow, orange or even more radical colors like grey or black because the glow portion of it is no longer effective. Some have been made in the past but pink and blue have proven to be the brightest glow versions other than simply white, of course.



No one has a well established supply chain right now. :) Sea freight has been about as large of a gamble as any business can take. Our last container received in 2021 was shipped around February-March and arrived in December, normally taking about 8 weeks max. Most recent containers did seem to arrive in a more reliable time frame so it's possible that we could see some improvement in that regard with US ports.

Yeah IIRC even in the era of ol' Rancho Cucamonga, you only had blue/turquoise, pink and sometimes orange.

twistedraven 02-18-2022 11:18 AM

I was hoping for seafoam colored Color Glow MD3s. All I've seen so far is pretty much blue. Also to be frank I think quite a lot of people who buy and throw Color Glow do it because of the plastic's unique feel and flight, not because of its glow performance.

seedlings 02-18-2022 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by twistedraven (Post 3791210)
I was hoping for seafoam colored Color Glow MD3s. All I've seen so far is pretty much blue. Also to be frank I think quite a lot of people who buy and throw Color Glow do it because of the plastic's unique feel and flight, not because of its glow performance.

A tiny amount of green Rit Dyemore in lotion, slathered on a blue disc will get your seafoam color.

ray1970 02-18-2022 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by twistedraven (Post 3791210)
I was hoping for seafoam colored Color Glow MD3s. All I've seen so far is pretty much blue. Also to be frank I think quite a lot of people who buy and throw Color Glow do it because of the plastic's unique feel and flight, not because of its glow performance.


Pretty much this for me. I donít really even play in the dark but I do like that a lot of the glow plastics are usually a little softer and grippier so if Iím buying one itís more just that I like the feel of the plastic.

Flick Maniac 02-18-2022 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ray1970 (Post 3791222)
Pretty much this for me. I donít really even play in the dark but I do like that a lot of the glow plastics are usually a little softer and grippier so if Iím buying one itís more just that I like the feel of the plastic.

True. Thougj I'd love to play a real glow round (as we have quite the number of dark hours in Finland outside of midnight sun summers) but you have to find a really nice secluded course that has zero light pollution. Even a single industrial light uncovered messes with your vision for ways away. And you have to get other people to commit to glow only (not LED) and not ruining night vision with flashlights. Let your eyes get nice and adjusted.

adb83 02-20-2022 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Agarner14 (Post 3791020)
DM has, in a way, already addressed the $30 price point. They are producing discs overseas and using air transport to get discs to the US quickly. This is especially the case for special releases like the IS3. This is very expensive and likely explains the price increase across all of the DM originals line.

So when they start shipping on boats again are the prices going to go down?

Just so everyone knows, I'm trolling. I stopped throwing DM when I couldn't get CD2s anymore. But, I really think this should be a question for people throwing DM.

klodkrawler05 02-21-2022 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by adb83 (Post 3791683)
So when they start shipping on boats again are the prices going to go down?

Just so everyone knows, I'm trolling. I stopped throwing DM when I couldn't get CD2s anymore. But, I really think this should be a question for people throwing DM.

Continuing the troll and topic drift, but why is this specifically a question for DM throwers? Sexton Firebirds were $29.99 last year from Innova's website, no overseas shipping required.

Heck, Paul Mcbeth base plastic Luna's are $22 on Discrafts website right now. (or $24.99 if you'd rather have them with a starwars theme stamp instead of a stock stamp)

I think this really is more a question for Disc Golf in general of what the market will bear for tour series discs.
Personally, I bought a stack of the Perkins Zen because the Essence is a go-to disc in my bag. I bought a stack of the Klein Origin despite never throwing them before because he's a local and I wanted to support his tour efforts. I haven't bought any IS3's partially because $30 is more than I want to spend for a single disc and partially because I barely threw my IS2 enough last year to break it in and I've still got a backup on the shelf in case I lose the bagged one.

Price of individual discs aside, I think it's awesome that you can hop on DM's website right now and order 4 different tour series discs and 16 different molds (if my count is correct) in various plastics. Certainly an improvement from 2 years ago even if it's not back to pre-covid availability and options.

robdeforge 02-21-2022 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by klodkrawler05 (Post 3791731)
Continuing the troll and topic drift, but why is this specifically a question for DM throwers? Sexton Firebirds were $29.99 last year from Innova's website, no overseas shipping required.

FYI they were $24.99 from Innova's website

Agarner14 02-21-2022 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by adb83 (Post 3791683)
So when they start shipping on boats again are the prices going to go down?

Just so everyone knows, I'm trolling. I stopped throwing DM when I couldn't get CD2s anymore. But, I really think this should be a question for people throwing DM.

I think it is a valid question, even if you are just trolling. I don't think DM prices are generally unreasonable. Most of the premium plastics are in the 18-20 $ range which is fairly consistent with the rest of the market. The $30 price point for tour series/special edition originals is pushing it though. If I had to guess, I think DM will probably not decrease the price as long as things are selling. I also do wonder what % the player is getting because I certainly don't mind paying a little extra to support players.


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