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Flick Maniac 05-17-2022 02:48 AM

Still waiting for the Rainmaker stock run, never thrown one.

I do have a Exo Tactic in the bag too just for different shots. Great for straight forehand upshots. But when people ask me "whats your go to throwing putter" I tend to think "the disc you reach for for a straight no fade RHBH throw under 200 feet". And that would be a Exo Logic.

Flat premium Senseis are awesome.

P3xs are good too. D-lines are fun.

Sadly its what you can find. *shrug* Second hand market is your best friend.

SuperWookie 05-17-2022 01:54 PM

Can people that own or have thrown the new FD's chime in with how they compare to the old ones?

I have 6 old ones, 4 S line and 2 C line. They are all around 173-175g. All fly about the same, but with the C line being a bit more overstable at high speed and fading more. But nothing drastic. For me, all of them fly about 7/5.5/-.5/2. But when I throw them really flat and get a good rip on it, they do fly more like they numbers say. But they have always seemed a bit more overstable than the numbers state. And I have to try a bit too hard to get that magic -1/1 flight. Also, compared to other -1/1 discs, more overstable with more fade.

So just wondering if the New C lines are more stable? Less stable? More fade or less fade than the old ones?

DiscJunkie 05-17-2022 09:57 PM

New C-line FDs are a bit more stable than most of old Innova FDs.
They tried to copy the beloved 2nd run from Innova, and those 2nd runs were on the more stable side.
My older S-line is most like the new C-line in being able to take more power.

The last runs of the Innova FDs were just too over-stable, more like an FD2.
The Innova Dark Rebel Fairway disc were like those later runs.
The new C-lines, I think, strike a great balance because without being too stable, they can still handle some power.

Hope that helps.

SuperWookie 05-18-2022 10:58 AM

Also, just a little FYI, if anyone has a Blue, Teal or White Enigma, that actually turns right, glides forever and has a baby fade back to the middle, that weighs around 168-175g, I'd LOVE to buy it off you if you'd be willing to sell. I have 2 at 170 and 175g that are BEEFY as all get out and fly nothing like the numbers or others claim. Mine are easily 12/5/0/3-4. They have as hard a fade as my Firebirds thrown well and dead flat!

Just looking for a more flippy, overall net straight-ish flight path. Kind of like an old FD S line. Flips up, glides out right a bit, stays there and glides for days, then softly comes back to the middle. I throw max D around 350-380, so I know this disc is at the upper reaches of my distance ability, but I have other speed 11-12 discs that fly amazing and there flight #'s are actually more stable HS and LS than the Enigma, yet turn right and fade less than my 2 Enigmas! They are in fact, and Enigma to me, haha

Thanks

seedlings 05-18-2022 01:04 PM

Stock C-line DD3s are coming up June 7th

SuperWookie 05-18-2022 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by seedlings (Post 3809874)
Stock C-line DD3s are coming up June 7th

Ouch! A C line DD3 would be WAY too much disc for me I'm assuming. 3 fade in C line plastic would be too BEEEEFY

hurricaine 05-18-2022 03:53 PM

rainmaker
 
i got two rainmakers to try and putt with. HATED THEM. started throwing them and hoooooo boy am i in love. Absolutely great throwers.

seedlings 05-18-2022 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperWookie (Post 3809906)
Ouch! A C line DD3 would be WAY too much disc for me I'm assuming. 3 fade in C line plastic would be too BEEEEFY

The Cloudbreaker 3 was waaay too beefy for my noodle… until it wasn’t. It flex bombs so far. But, with two Star and two Cloudbreaker 3 I’m out for new DD3. Enigmas are nice too, as you know ;)

I have been saving for a couple of PD.

SuperWookie 05-18-2022 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by seedlings (Post 3809918)
The Cloudbreaker 3 was waaay too beefy for my noodle… until it wasn’t. It flex bombs so far. But, with two Star and two Cloudbreaker 3 I’m out for new DD3. Enigmas are nice too, as you know ;)

I have been saving for a couple of PD.

Are you talking about old or new Cloudbreakers? And what weight range? I've never thrown one, but just assume with that 3 fade and 12 speed, that it's too much disc for me at this point. Still trying to learn how to throw well and far, and making progress each year, but still not able to throw that far. 360-380 here and there is my max so far.

And are you saying both the Star and Cloudbreaker would be flex bombs? Might have to look into finding one of those in a lighter weight around 167-170 if you think I could throw it well?

And yeah, can't wait for the PD to FINALLY come out! It's been FOREVER since I had my Lone Howl and wish I hadn't have sold it. I just saw how much people were getting for them on eBay and didn't realize at the time that Discmania was going to have SOO many problems going forward. First with loosing out on production by no longer working with Innova, and then taking forever to get their own production up and running smoothly. Which still seams to be a big problem. But nice to see some discs finally coming out. And hope I can snag a nice PD in a color I like. I just can't seem to find a disc like that. It was SO unique in how it feels, throws and flies.

seedlings 05-18-2022 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperWookie (Post 3809922)
Are you talking about old or new Cloudbreakers? And what weight range?

Brand new CB3 in 17x don’t remember and too lazy to go look. I have two pink ones. One I’ve thrown to beat up, and the other one isn’t in the bag.

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Originally Posted by SuperWookie (Post 3809922)
And are you saying both the Star and Cloudbreaker would be flex bombs? Might have to look into finding one of those in a lighter weight around 167-170 if you think I could throw it well?

The slightly beat new CB3 is the flex bomber with so much glide. I’m saying I don’t need new DD3s. Besides the two CB3, I have two innova S-line DD3. One is very beat up and has a nice s flight. The other one is fresh. I’m also saying I can’t throw a fresh DD3 in any plastic, but after some beating, I can. If you’re throwing 350 then you can throw a beat up one too.

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Originally Posted by SuperWookie (Post 3809922)
And yeah, can't wait for the PD to FINALLY come out! It's been FOREVER since I had my Lone Howl and wish I hadn't have sold it. I just saw how much people were getting for them on eBay and didn't realize at the time that Discmania was going to have SOO many problems going forward. First with loosing out on production by no longer working with Innova, and then taking forever to get their own production up and running smoothly. Which still seams to be a big problem. But nice to see some discs finally coming out. And hope I can snag a nice PD in a color I like. I just can't seem to find a disc like that. It was SO unique in how it feels, throws and flies.

I want two red PDs. C-line red is so dayglow it’s awesome. I have a G-line PD that is fantastic. Laser beam straight with late fade. New PD will be meathook, but will replace a faded and hard-to-find in the weeds FD3.


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