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clard 10-19-2016 09:56 AM

White, pink, orange, LIGHT blue! Those would be my picks. Easiest to see and something for everyone. Thanks!

Flick Maniac 10-20-2016 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rarintal (Post 3085047)
, with the P3 and FD3 we wanted them still be throwable to most of the public. We want them to be thrown :)

I get it,but utility overstable does not necessarily mean unthrowable. I have a medium arm at best, and for normal shots, for eaxmple the FAF firebird should not be a disc for me. But for ABNORMAL shots it really opened up my eyes as to what a disc can be made to do. Saved my bacon a lot of times.

Therefore, alongside normal workable discs I will always carry a stupid stable mid and a driver. Currently a Justice and a 12x FAF FB.

Rikster 10-21-2016 09:59 AM

I'm also hoping the MD4 to be stupid overstable because that's a disc I'm missing from DM lineup.

What comes to colors; bright yellow! Not chartreuse please. Also light blue discs look sweet. Any possibilities we could see white x-line discs?

Mr. Butlertron 10-23-2016 07:49 PM

Is Innova/Discmania discontinuing the production of blizzard champion or any other discs under 160 grams in the near future?

SD86 10-23-2016 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peksi5 (Post 3080450)
After a few rounds with swirly s-line P3, I like that disc a lot but it would be even better if it was more overstable and completely flat.

I have a C-Line P3 and a Glow C-Line P3, and both of them almost fight out of hyzer throws, making them go long on shots where I'm trying to hit a dogleg-left window (RHBH throw). I'd like to see a more overstable P3, as well.

jonkimbertx 10-26-2016 12:48 AM

An FD roller
 
I've recently made the switch from Saint to Fd as my go to driver. It's such a great disc! Mine are the metal flake which hold very nice lines. I'd like to break in an FD for a roller, as I don't have one. I've never liked how D plastic feels though =/ Will a P-Line FD break in well enough to be a good roller disc?

Jenga54 10-26-2016 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonkimbertx (Post 3089326)
I've recently made the switch from Saint to Fd as my go to driver. It's such a great disc! Mine are the metal flake which hold very nice lines. I'd like to break in an FD for a roller, as I don't have one. I've never liked how D plastic feels though =/ Will a P-Line FD break in well enough to be a good roller disc?

Absolutely!

I will always have an FD

Flick Maniac 10-27-2016 07:25 AM

Now with the Luster C-line PD2s out, are there plans to roll that out in other molds? I heard rumors on facebook about Luster C-MD3s. Care to confirm, anybody?

Dr.Smooth 10-29-2016 09:48 PM

On the talk about making the switch from saint to fd:

I was trying to compliment my saints when I bought the fd. The jury is still out. But they are both great molds. It would be foolish to eliminate either one. The saint is longer. The fd is a bit more controllable.

On the talk about making molds throw able:

things have changed over the years in terms of discs being massively overstable. The FD3 is in that category. It is super os. And I can only justify bringing this disc out when the winds are blowing hard. Certainly not a disc that is deserving to be carried all the time like the saints and fds. I have mine fd3's in sweet swirl star so l love them. But really their only purpose is to defeat nasty headwinds.

jonkimbertx 11-03-2016 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Smooth (Post 3091321)
On the talk about making the switch from saint to fd:

I was trying to compliment my saints when I bought the fd. The jury is still out. But they are both great molds. It would be foolish to eliminate either one. The saint is longer. The fd is a bit more controllable.

On the talk about making molds throw able:

things have changed over the years in terms of discs being massively overstable. The FD3 is in that category. It is super os. And I can only justify bringing this disc out when the winds are blowing hard. Certainly not a disc that is deserving to be carried all the time like the saints and fds. I have mine fd3's in sweet swirl star so l love them. But really their only purpose is to defeat nasty headwinds.

I had the same intention with my FD's, but they were going further than I expected, to the point that it doesn't make sense to have both in the bag and have to pick which one to throw each time. Flight patterns are nearly identical despite 2 speed difference. http://www.inboundsdiscgolf.com/cont...45876O777921OO

tampabay 11-03-2016 11:55 AM

Are the C line throwback series Freak Stamped PDs 9th runs? I ask because the description says "Pro Tip: These are made from the newest run of the C-LINE PD. It's a great flying PD - it's very predictable and has unmatched beauty with the Jolly Launcher C-LINE plastic!" and Eagle mentioned a 10th run PD. Just trying to figure out if they are 9th or 10th

Dr.Smooth 11-07-2016 09:41 AM

Good question. Yeah that is why we pay the discmania premium to order directly from discmania so we can know which run.

Otherwise why wouldn't one save a lot of cash and go to other retailers.

Flick Maniac 11-09-2016 07:30 AM

Im sure you guys have seen this, but just in case you havent: http://www.discmania.net/2016/11/08/...h-anniversary/

Really liking the look of those discs at the bottom. May have to splurge on an international order.

Reniger 11-09-2016 09:14 AM

Yup. Gonna need a few of those 10-year Anniversary PDs and FDs.

rarintal 11-15-2016 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenga54 (Post 3085055)
Oh please blue. I love all blues but less the darker ones. Truly a color for all seasons, as is pink.

Interesting. I always had a hard time with Blue in winter and fall!

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Originally Posted by BrotherDave (Post 3085189)
Orange has my vote. I hate blue discs (sorry guy above me).

I'd definitely be interested in a D-PD.

thanks for the feedback!

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Originally Posted by Dr.Smooth (Post 3085881)
Ryan (Discmania guy)

Thanks for the CD2. I have had some time to test them. Intersting disc as I had no idea what to expect.

Here is my thoughts-same top as a PD. Bottom is a faster shaped fd. Amazing how similiar these two discs look. Think fd bottom with a slightly bigger wing and a PD nose.

The flight is like a broken in PD.. Actually very similiar to my Gstar PDs. As you know gplastic almost always adds some turn and decreases stability.

These are similiar to Saints. But a little less squirelly a touch more stable but with a touch less glide.

As for now, I have no idea where to put them in my bag. But the star swirl looks great and I keep taking them along to throw even though they have not found an offical slot yet.

-D-

most of our guys pair it with a PD and they can handle most distance shots until of course they're beefing up to the DDx or PD2.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Smooth (Post 3085888)
Oh yeah colors. And my philosophy on discs/colors. Blank tops with a small side logo. Thank god you guys do this I can just never find the right weights. Seems everything is max.

The best colors are (this is not up for debate)- White, Pink, Light Blue, Dark Blue

Orange and yellow disappear this time of the year if you live in areas where deciduous trees dominate.

Hmmm. We usually try to have a variation of weights. but we must be out of them!

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Originally Posted by Reniger (Post 3085979)
The best colors are (this is not up for debate)- Pink.

FTFY

I agree it's by far the easiest to find.

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Originally Posted by clard (Post 3085998)
White, pink, orange, LIGHT blue! Those would be my picks. Easiest to see and something for everyone. Thanks!

Thanks for the feedback!

Quote:

Originally Posted by maskedavenger (Post 3086988)
I get it,but utility overstable does not necessarily mean unthrowable. I have a medium arm at best, and for normal shots, for eaxmple the FAF firebird should not be a disc for me. But for ABNORMAL shots it really opened up my eyes as to what a disc can be made to do. Saved my bacon a lot of times.

Therefore, alongside normal workable discs I will always carry a stupid stable mid and a driver. Currently a Justice and a 12x FAF FB.

Thanks for the feedback. We have found our Metal Flake FD3s to be pretty overstable and dependable!

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Originally Posted by Rikster (Post 3087258)
I'm also hoping the MD4 to be stupid overstable because that's a disc I'm missing from DM lineup.

What comes to colors; bright yellow! Not chartreuse please. Also light blue discs look sweet. Any possibilities we could see white x-line discs?

Thanks for the feedback. We have a problem making White X-LINE discs. the material always came out like light brown (from what I can remember), so since it's almost brown we avoid it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Butlertron (Post 3088077)
Is Innova/Discmania discontinuing the production of blizzard champion or any other discs under 160 grams in the near future?

Nope! we just made some Blizzard DDx's!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD86 (Post 3088102)
I have a C-Line P3 and a Glow C-Line P3, and both of them almost fight out of hyzer throws, making them go long on shots where I'm trying to hit a dogleg-left window (RHBH throw). I'd like to see a more overstable P3, as well.

We have been working on making some minor tweaks to the mold to make it more overstable and be closer to our favorite prototypes. Thanks for the feedback!

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Originally Posted by jonkimbertx (Post 3089326)
I've recently made the switch from Saint to Fd as my go to driver. It's such a great disc! Mine are the metal flake which hold very nice lines. I'd like to break in an FD for a roller, as I don't have one. I've never liked how D plastic feels though =/ Will a P-Line FD break in well enough to be a good roller disc?

Yes, for sure. The current P-LINE FD is closer to the S-LINE plastic than any other. It takes a little more beating that allows players to use it longer. However since it has more grip we have found that many players can make it turn more right away compared to it's premium siblings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenga54 (Post 3089331)
Absolutely!

I will always have an FD

If I had one (disc golf) wish - I would make everyone at least try the FD. I think that was the disc that really caught my attention first.

Quote:

Originally Posted by maskedavenger (Post 3090156)
Now with the Luster C-line PD2s out, are there plans to roll that out in other molds? I heard rumors on facebook about Luster C-MD3s. Care to confirm, anybody?

There are rumors. We can tell you they are coming soon. currently there are 5 molds we have produced. What do you guys think they are?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Smooth (Post 3091321)
On the talk about making the switch from saint to fd:

I was trying to compliment my saints when I bought the fd. The jury is still out. But they are both great molds. It would be foolish to eliminate either one. The saint is longer. The fd is a bit more controllable.

On the talk about making molds throw able:

things have changed over the years in terms of discs being massively overstable. The FD3 is in that category. It is super os. And I can only justify bringing this disc out when the winds are blowing hard. Certainly not a disc that is deserving to be carried all the time like the saints and fds. I have mine fd3's in sweet swirl star so l love them. But really their only purpose is to defeat nasty headwinds.

Is that a Lizotte Swirl S-FD3? Those came out crazy overstable!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonkimbertx (Post 3093218)
I had the same intention with my FD's, but they were going further than I expected, to the point that it doesn't make sense to have both in the bag and have to pick which one to throw each time. Flight patterns are nearly identical despite 2 speed difference. http://www.inboundsdiscgolf.com/cont...45876O777921OO

We have found many people found the FD more reliable because you didn't have to "power it up" enough to create the same flight. The FD does wonders with a smooth throw with controlled motions. You don't need to have a crazy fast arm to make it go far. Especially if you're throwing a softer S-LINE or P-LINE one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tampabay (Post 3093366)
Are the C line throwback series Freak Stamped PDs 9th runs? I ask because the description says "Pro Tip: These are made from the newest run of the C-LINE PD. It's a great flying PD - it's very predictable and has unmatched beauty with the Jolly Launcher C-LINE plastic!" and Eagle mentioned a 10th run PD. Just trying to figure out if they are 9th or 10th

They're actually the 10th run. The 9th run was a super small batch we had made as a mid season supplement. The two runs look and fly identical FYI. We got them to come out nice and stable but still had some decent glide to them! I was going to bring some for Eagle at the USDGC but didn't want to mess with his bag ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Smooth (Post 3094678)
Good question. Yeah that is why we pay the discmania premium to order directly from discmania so we can know which run.

Otherwise why wouldn't one save a lot of cash and go to other retailers.

We have been trying really hard to teach our retailers to know what we have. Or at least let you guys know what you're looking for so you can get the right disc for you!

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Originally Posted by maskedavenger (Post 3095645)
Im sure you guys have seen this, but just in case you havent: http://www.discmania.net/2016/11/08/...h-anniversary/

Really liking the look of those discs at the bottom. May have to splurge on an international order.

Luster :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reniger (Post 3095661)
Yup. Gonna need a few of those 10-year Anniversary PDs and FDs.

Any guesses on the molds?

Flick Maniac 11-15-2016 02:30 PM

Weeeelll.... you gave us FDs and PDs... PD2 is out. Heard that there are MD3s so that leaves only one... tough to say. DDx?

I wonder if the luster discs are all more overstable than their brethren. That would spell great news for thw MD3 and especially for the FD, if they came out anything like the 2nd run!

Reniger 11-15-2016 02:32 PM

Aww. No 10th Year PDs, CD2s, or FDs. Bummersauce. I'll prolly grab another S-DDx.

clard 11-15-2016 02:32 PM

I know it's been said, many times many ways, but man would it be great to have something like a 2nd run FD available again.

ILUVSMGS18 11-16-2016 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reniger (Post 3097970)
Aww. No 10th Year PDs, CD2s, or FDs. Bummersauce. I'll prolly grab another S-DDx.

I came here to post the same thing. What was the point in releasing molds that most Discmania throwers don't throw. If it was my company I would want my anniversary products to be things that were revolutionary, for Discmania that would have to be the DDx, PD, CD2, and the FD. Only one gets a 10 year stamp? Hmmm something fishy is going on.

Flick Maniac 11-16-2016 01:34 AM

Quote:

currently there are 5 molds we have produced.

Have you guys seen the luster stuff coming out for our 10 Year Anniversary? I can tell you that there will be FD's (FD thread)

FYI - Have you guys seen our 10 Year Anniversary stuff coming out soon? I bet you can guess one of the molds with me being here (PD thread)
I dont know how you guys are reading all that, but he said 5 molds out in Luster, and pretty much confirmed anniversary Luster PDs and FDs in their respective threads.

CD2 revolutionary? Great disc but sure lacks the reknown the other molds have.

jonkimbertx 11-16-2016 03:05 AM

I bought my first Dismania disc about a year ago, it's an S-Line DD with a perfectly flat top. I got it cuz the plastic had a great feel, soft to the touch and grippy but with solid firmness.

I've got more Discmania in my bag now, most recently a couple of S-Line DDx's. Good discs but I'm not liking the plastic as much, it has a glossy slick finish that reminds me of Latitude 64's Gold Line and doesn't grip nearly as well.

How would I find out what run of S-Line my original DD is? And does the change in S-Line plastic mark a new direction for how future runs will be?

clard 11-16-2016 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonkimbertx (Post 3098262)
I bought my first Dismania disc about a year ago, it's an S-Line DD with a perfectly flat top. I got it cuz the plastic had a great feel, soft to the touch and grippy but with solid firmness.

I've got more Discmania in my bag now, most recently a couple of S-Line DDx's. Good discs but I'm not liking the plastic as much, it has a glossy slick finish that reminds me of Latitude 64's Gold Line and doesn't grip nearly as well.

How would I find out what run of S-Line my original DD is? And does the change in S-Line plastic mark a new direction for how future runs will be?

If you haven't done it yet, wash your disc with dish soap and a soft sponge. A lot of times there is still some residue on the disc from the molding process.

I say this because the really glossy plastic they have been putting out is really grippy, IMO. I have an S DDx and it is very grippy.

rarintal 11-16-2016 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maskedavenger (Post 3097969)
Weeeelll.... you gave us FDs and PDs... PD2 is out. Heard that there are MD3s so that leaves only one... tough to say. DDx?

I wonder if the luster discs are all more overstable than their brethren. That would spell great news for thw MD3 and especially for the FD, if they came out anything like the 2nd run!

We have been attempting recently (again) to work on something like the 2nd run FD. But no luck yet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reniger (Post 3097970)
Aww. No 10th Year PDs, CD2s, or FDs. Bummersauce. I'll prolly grab another S-DDx.

there will be 5 molds for the 10 year anniversary :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by clard (Post 3097972)
I know it's been said, many times many ways, but man would it be great to have something like a 2nd run FD available again.

We hear you. We revisit the idea often :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILUVSMGS18 (Post 3098225)
I came here to post the same thing. What was the point in releasing molds that most Discmania throwers don't throw. If it was my company I would want my anniversary products to be things that were revolutionary, for Discmania that would have to be the DDx, PD, CD2, and the FD. Only one gets a 10 year stamp? Hmmm something fishy is going on.

just to be absolutely clear there will be 5 molds used for this. One obviously is the PD2 (as we have released it for the Leo Piironen European Champion Signature disc) and I have made a few comments elsewhere with a few hints.

Quote:

Originally Posted by maskedavenger (Post 3098249)
I dont know how you guys are reading all that, but he said 5 molds out in Luster, and pretty much confirmed anniversary Luster PDs and FDs in their respective threads.

CD2 revolutionary? Great disc but sure lacks the reknown the other molds have.

The CD2 is very popular here in the US but it's not as popular in Europe. However the TD is way more popular in Europe and barely ever talked about here in the US. We have a few players here like Gregg Barsby for example that preaches about the CD2 so that probably helps!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonkimbertx (Post 3098262)
I bought my first Dismania disc about a year ago, it's an S-Line DD with a perfectly flat top. I got it cuz the plastic had a great feel, soft to the touch and grippy but with solid firmness.

I've got more Discmania in my bag now, most recently a couple of S-Line DDx's. Good discs but I'm not liking the plastic as much, it has a glossy slick finish that reminds me of Latitude 64's Gold Line and doesn't grip nearly as well.

How would I find out what run of S-Line my original DD is? And does the change in S-Line plastic mark a new direction for how future runs will be?

We have found the new plastic to be more grippy than the old plastic. Maybe take clard's advice and wash it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by clard (Post 3098273)
If you haven't done it yet, wash your disc with dish soap and a soft sponge. A lot of times there is still some residue on the disc from the molding process.

I say this because the really glossy plastic they have been putting out is really grippy, IMO. I have an S DDx and it is very grippy.

We agree. We wanted the DDx to have some extra grip to help it be thrown further!

rarintal 11-16-2016 05:44 PM

Discmania Public Service Announcement!
 
Hello Everyone! Here's a public service announcement from us here at Discmania:

For 2017 we're looking for 10 media partners.

These partners will have the opportunity to test and give feedback about all Discmania molds old and new. We're looking for charismatic, influential, and confident players that can help us show players how our discs fly and even to possibly be involved in development of new products.

In the past we have had media partners featured on our Discmania Facebook pages, Instagram pages, and even on the Discmania Store for some sweet videos we had!

If you're interested or know someone that would be fantastic for this shoot us an email at [email protected]. Please send us a detailed reason why you would be a great fit!

Pro Tip: In the past certain things have stood out to us like - Size of your following on social media, player's community involvement, and even your skill level (be aware we need all skill levels to help show how each one can use our discs so don't feel like you shouldn't apply!) and the amount of tournaments you play!

We look forward to your emails!
-Discmania

OB Four 11-17-2016 11:10 AM

i'm assuming the dome level b/t the 9th/10th run of PD are the same?

rarintal 11-21-2016 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OB Four (Post 3099011)
i'm assuming the dome level b/t the 9th/10th run of PD are the same?

Yes, From what we could see they are the same in flight and appearance :) Which is good because you all loved the 9th run!

Dr.Smooth 11-21-2016 11:11 PM

Energy. The dome or lack ther of matters. Flat top firebirds. Pop top terns. Puddle top mistakes. The truth is where the disc should be according to a set of critical paramaters.

Don't be fooled. Know what is correct according to mold not hype. Plenty of fools saying this and that. But haven't a clue on what really is right.

rarintal 11-22-2016 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Smooth (Post 3100888)
Energy. The dome or lack ther of matters. Flat top firebirds. Pop top terns. Puddle top mistakes. The truth is where the disc should be according to a set of critical paramaters.

Don't be fooled. Know what is correct according to mold not hype. Plenty of fools saying this and that. But haven't a clue on what really is right.

Hello there, I don't think I quite understand what you're referencing?

Jenga54 11-22-2016 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Smooth (Post 3100888)
Energy. The dome or lack ther of matters. Flat top firebirds. Pop top terns. Puddle top mistakes. The truth is where the disc should be according to a set of critical paramaters.

Don't be fooled. Know what is correct according to mold not hype. Plenty of fools saying this and that. But haven't a clue on what really is right.

fool (n) - someone who is not myself

DM should have melted down those darn stiff and flat 2nd run FDs. Glad you haven't made THAT mistake again!

clard 11-22-2016 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Smooth (Post 3100888)
Energy. The dome or lack ther of matters. Flat top firebirds. Pop top terns. Puddle top mistakes. The truth is where the disc should be according to a set of critical paramaters.

Don't be fooled. Know what is correct according to mold not hype. Plenty of fools saying this and that. But haven't a clue on what really is right.

Looking at a disc for a set of "critical parameters" isn't how you decide if a disc is going to work for you; you've got to throw it. There are some visual indicators of how a disc is likely to act, but that is by no means the end all and be all.

Also, only about half of this post makes any sense.

drew2000 11-22-2016 02:33 PM

How long do we have to submit emails to apply for the 2017 media partnership?

Flick Maniac 11-23-2016 03:36 AM

I am sure every Discmaniac not living under a rock is in the know already, but for those who are:

https://store.discmania.net/index.ph...niversary.html

Looks like P2 was the only mold that was not guessed/inferred/whatever. I.e. P2 MD3 FD PD and PD2 in Luster. Yay!

Mulligan 11-29-2016 01:18 AM

Question.... Innova seems to have had issues with bubble top blizzards in the past, but you all have seemed to work it out well for the DDX (i grabbed 4 and am very pleased with the flight).

Assuming, therefore, that Innova has the technology to produce blizzard with bubbles in rim AND flight plate, or rim only... I'm wondering if it is possible to generate bubbles in JUST the flight plate (or at least really minimize the bubbles in the rim)?

Obviously, where I'm going with this is less weight in center, more in rim, while still being able to have lighter weights than max.
I'd be curious if that added glide and/or stability in long range drivers. A DDX in the high 160s with most of that weight in the edge seems like it'd be killer...

jugg3rnautx 11-29-2016 01:53 AM

I know it's been mentioned before but I'd love to see the DDx in G-line. The TD as well.

dehaas 11-29-2016 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jugg3rnautx (Post 3103219)
I know it's been mentioned before but I'd love to see the DDx in G-line. The TD as well.

I'm on board for a g line ddx as well. I liked the flight of the g dd2s but the rim is a bit large for what I like to throw. I almost pulled the trigger on a g dd and pd2 with my holiday order but don't really know if I need a slot for either.

DinosaurThunder 11-29-2016 09:45 AM

So... S-line FD2? ;)

Also do you have any buttery hysteria stamped s-line DDs hidden at the store? :)

Flick Maniac 11-29-2016 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mulligan (Post 3103207)
Question.... Innova seems to have had issues with bubble top blizzards in the past, but you all have seemed to work it out well for the DDX (i grabbed 4 and am very pleased with the flight).

Assuming, therefore, that Innova has the technology to produce blizzard with bubbles in rim AND flight plate, or rim only... I'm wondering if it is possible to generate bubbles in JUST the flight plate (or at least really minimize the bubbles in the rim)?

Obviously, where I'm going with this is less weight in center, more in rim, while still being able to have lighter weights than max.
I'd be curious if that added glide and/or stability in long range drivers. A DDX in the high 160s with most of that weight in the edge seems like it'd be killer...

I see where you are going with this, *coughGYROcough* but i wonder how much the plate actually weighs vs a bubbled plate. Lets say the plate is 10% of the total weight of the disc, and you can shave off 50% of that total 10%. Effect would be minimal.

Mulligan 11-30-2016 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maskedavenger (Post 3103394)
I see where you are going with this, *coughGYROcough* but i wonder how much the plate actually weighs vs a bubbled plate. Lets say the plate is 10% of the total weight of the disc, and you can shave off 50% of that total 10%. Effect would be minimal.

I totally disagree.... but there's only one way to find out. :D

Flick Maniac 11-30-2016 02:18 PM

Sure sounds like a bomber disc, no matter what science. ;)

DiscinFiend 11-30-2016 03:59 PM

Are MD3s going to be retooled to be more overstable? I threw a C-Line. I wanted it to be more overstable than it was. I want Discmania to release a midrange thats as beefy as the Gator or retool the MD3 to be that beefy. I'd prefer it to be beedless so I can consistently throw it sidearm...


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