| Jacobpaul81 |
09-16-2020 01:22 AM |
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Originally Posted by jakebake91
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Cooling processes SHOULD be standardized. They shouldn't be drastically different from run to run.
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and yet we have 40 years of evidence to suggest otherwise - You can't fight nature. Temperature and Humidity are not controllable. They vary day to day and hour by hour - and the brisker the process, the more heat people and the process will generate within a given space. You can no more consistently cool plastic discs than you can consistently smoke a brisket. They aren't making discs in a climate controlled clean room.
This topic has been discussed for decades - and the concensus opinion is that it's impossible to be consistent disc after disc after disc because different rates of cooling occur even on the same day... and this is going to be even more inconsistent with the Axiom line where discs are molded up in 2 different colors. The only way to find discs with 100% consistent flights is to grab multiples at the same time from the same retailer in the same color. Accept and move on.
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As for the color vs plastic type..... absolutely untrue. Different plastics shrink at different values (I can happily show you the chart, it's in my toolbox). This would cause the disc to mold up slightly different in different plastics.
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Yes, and when you change the temp and humdity, the plastics respond differently. Yes, you will see variation from plastic to plastic - but you will see as much variation from color to color within the same plastic as you do from plastic to plastic. Note- it's not the Color that's causing the difference - it's time and place. Color is simply a signifier of when a disc was manufactured. The rates will always be impacted by Temp and Humidity. In my bag, right now, I have a beefy Crave in Neutron, a moderatly stable Crave in Proton, and a flip-tastic Crave in Eclipse. If the plastic were a consistent way of discerning flight - those would most likley be in reverse order.
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The whole "hiding the run" thing.....either you have WAY more inside information than I, or are completely clueless about injection molding.
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Way over-reading my comment. Dial down the fanboy rhetoric and think logically for a moment- By making cosmic discs, they are essentially masking the buyers ability to discern if a disc will fly more or less stable than another disc of the same mold because there are not solid colors to base that evaluation on. I'm not saying it's intentional. I'm just saying that it could be. ;) From a marketing standpoint - it's certainly better to mask flight differences to avoid discussions like this one. Me - I'll stick to solid color discs to ensure flight consistency.
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That's not at all what's happening there. Even with standard plastics, you couldn't tell one weeks run apart from the next, unless they labeled them different or some kind of physical change took place in the tooling or something.
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Yes you can. It's very easy to determine that 2 discs which share the same coloring which are available from the same retailer were manufactured on the same day - those discs were likely made within minutes of one another. Prior to Cosmic, they produced one color at a time - they weren't making green, blue, yellow, red all at the same time. You'd get minor color swirls when they switched over from color to color - but it was consistent solid colors. I generally buy 2-4 of the same mold at the same time from the same retailer for exactly this reason. I'm making certain I will get a consistent flight from each disc I buy.
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Also "tweaking" the mold, implying that the cavity or core of the mold (molding surfaces) were modified, is something thats VERY unlikely to be happening with any kind of frequency.
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The Richardsons say they've tweaked the Volt mold to be more in line with their original design. Take that for what you will. I got no dog in this show. I don't throw Volts. |
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