Disc Golf Course Review - [MVP] MVP Disc Sports (Official Thread) (Part V)

My Matrix is starting to push on a 300' shot, which means it's getting a micro amount of turn to stay straight longer and delay the fade. It doesn't have a 3 part flight yet. I can see the potential for it to become a nice turning disc in time. I almost grabbed a Neutron with a high PL and an Electron yesterday to try to go full-on Matrix, but I got a Pyro and P Atom instead. Maybe next time.

If they flew like a Buzz for me I would have bagged them over the Axis, but for me the HSS seemed like -1. My Axis flies more HSS.

Mike C

10-11-2019 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacobpaul81 (Post 3506726)

When putters like the Envy or Pilot or Entropy fly 300' consistently, what's a midrange driver actually for?

301'-350' shots, lower flying lines, etc.

Don't get this reasoning at all. I've thrown the Envy 450' but I still carry mids and drivers.

No matter how far you can throw a putter, a mid is likely to give you an extra 20' and handle lower lines better.

wolfmandragon

10-11-2019 04:53 PM

Ok, I need my Halloween Envy stamp fix... Where is it?

I am getting nervous

ThomasOrion

10-11-2019 05:25 PM

I tried to like the Matrix, and I ...DO, but. It's not a Buzzz, and I find that the #'s are correct 5/4/-1/2 but that -1 turn is tough to dial in when trying to throw a straight tunnel shot - it needs finesse or a hyzerflip and then its hard to gauge the fade. sometimes I finesse too much, other times too little. So it can be touchy for tight lines for me. I prefer the Alias for LASERS and the Buzzz for longer lasers - and the MD4 for a more OS buzz....and recently the Runway for OS mid, digging my setup

rocthecourse

10-11-2019 06:30 PM

MVP needs to make a mid like the Mako3, 5,5,0,0. If Gyro works MVP should be able to make it even more stable(straighter) and with less fade.

:popcorn:

In the least if you are going to make putters that fly far you need to make mids that fly far.

deyo7

10-11-2019 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rocthecourse (Post 3506954)

IMHO, I think the Mako3 and Alias are basically the same.. They're pretty darn close for me. Alias might have a little more of the gyro effect that you are mentioning but neither really have much fade... My proxy also flies like mako3, maybe slightly shorter but not a lot.

jakebake91

10-11-2019 08:10 PM

I second the alias there. It's a laser beam

DiscRambo

10-12-2019 02:47 PM

I love my laser beam Proton Alias too (a better Buzzz) :\

Jacobpaul81

10-13-2019 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ThomasOrion (Post 3506859)

exactly - the ceiling, and the shot shape determine the type of disc WAY more than the distance. There are short shots that McBeth throws high-speed drivers and other players on the same card throw a putter. also the super long holes he throws a mid or putter when its Driver distance. All depends on the ceiling, the shape, the finish, the ground-play and the wind. So yeah, Mids are really important, but if I'm playing a wide open course I may not use any. Just depends. I use certain fairway drivers for low ceiling shots where the distance may call for a putter or mid. All depends.

I favor a putter for most short range shots. Didn't use to. Use to throw Firebirds or Teebirds. But these days, I'll reach for my Envys or Entropys. I have 7 Envys in my cart at the moment ranging from 165-175 in Eclipse and Plasma plastic. Because I carry a range of weights, that's probably different from guys who throw all max weight everything.

Jacobpaul81

10-13-2019 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike C (Post 3506878)

I throw 165 Eclipse Envys where I use to throw mids or fairways. I get better control and similar distance. That's what works for me.

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