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davetherocketguy 06-23-2021 06:23 AM

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Then there's this

robdeforge 06-23-2021 09:35 AM

https://twitter.com/Brodiesmith21/st...21470750674944
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Just got an email that the driving range has been secured for disc golfers the rest of the tournament. Mission Accomplished!
if that was the mission all along, couldn't he have emailed the PDGA or contacted them directly instead of trolling on social media?

txmxer 06-23-2021 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3730987)
https://twitter.com/Brodiesmith21/st...21470750674944


if that was the mission all along, couldn't he have emailed the PDGA or contacted them directly instead of trolling on social media?

Would it have worked?

Streets 06-23-2021 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3730987)
https://twitter.com/Brodiesmith21/st...21470750674944


if that was the mission all along, couldn't he have emailed the PDGA or contacted them directly instead of trolling on social media?

But then how would Brodie get all of the attention?

Norvelljeff 06-23-2021 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3730987)
https://twitter.com/Brodiesmith21/st...21470750674944


if that was the mission all along, couldn't he have emailed the PDGA or contacted them directly instead of trolling on social media?

The mission was clearly to buy some goodwill with his new sport. It was a very, very nice gesture and needed apparently but there is NO WAY IN HELL Brodie pays that much with a stipulation saying that he can't post about it on social media. He did it for the publicity, which is a smart move. Also heard he paid with his personal credit card.

I played the replacement tournament for worlds last year at mulliagns/fort and this same thing happened then. Disc golfers throwing on the range and staff getting pissed and telling them to get off.

txmxer 06-23-2021 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Flick Maniac (Post 3730957)
Theres a saying in Finnish that goes "You put out the fire wrong." :D<3

Some people need their fire put out wrong.

glassila 06-23-2021 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Flick Maniac (Post 3730957)
Theres a saying in Finnish that goes "You put out the fire wrong." :D<3

I'm "meh" for Brodie, but if he ran into a burning house and saved 3 babies there would be people saying "but he didn't save the dog!" :wall:

Streets 06-23-2021 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by glassila (Post 3730999)
I'm "meh" for Brodie, but if he ran into a burning house and saved 3 babies there would be people saying "but he didn't save the dog!" :wall:

But he would make sure to slap a GoPro on himself and livestream the entire rescue on social media.

Dcinmd 06-23-2021 10:19 AM

It pretty simple, he did it to slam the PDGA and promote his own company.

A lot of advertising for Foundation Golf saving the worlds.

Flick Maniac 06-23-2021 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by glassila (Post 3730999)
I'm "meh" for Brodie, but if he ran into a burning house and saved 3 babies there would be people saying "but he didn't save the dog!" :wall:

"Planted those babies and started the fire to begin with, too!"

robdeforge 06-23-2021 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by txmxer (Post 3730990)
Would it have worked?

I'm not sure. what do you think?

txmxer 06-23-2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Streets (Post 3731000)
But he would make sure to slap a GoPro on himself and livestream the entire rescue on social media.

Probably. Social media IS his livelihood.

txmxer 06-23-2021 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3731023)
I'm not sure. what do you think?

Well, they had reserved half the range, so they recognized the need. Whoever did make the reservation saw no need to reserve the whole thing.

Had it not become a social media headache I’m guessing they would not have done anything more.

We will never know for sure though.

_MTL_ 06-23-2021 11:50 AM

Half of the range was reserved. The reason that it appeared it wasn't was ball golfers were allowed to hit on the reserved half but ignored the "this other half is closed" and the staff at the golf course was not enforcing this. This was completely unexpected. This was also only an hour or so into the tournament.

The PDGA was working on a solution with the golf course when Brodie did what he did. The PDGA was already working on reserving the remaining part but then you saw what happened.

The PDGA offered to refund Brodie (since they were going to do pay anyway) and he flat out refused. He then made a video claiming that the PDGA lied to him and never mentioned that he refused the money. Coincidently (or not), he shortly after had a paid endorser story on his social media pages.

The PDGA has rented the entire facility for the remaining part of the event.

All Brodie accomplished, in the end, was a ton of social media impacts that I'm sure far exceed the $1,000 he paid. He did not change the outcome of the facility being rented.

disco40 06-23-2021 11:52 AM

I know this is all super serious and we're growing sports one half driving range at a time, but there's a little part of me that enjoys how annoying this must be to the golfers.

DinosaurThunder 06-23-2021 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by _MTL_ (Post 3731040)
Half of the range was reserved. The reason that it appeared it wasn't was ball golfers were allowed to hit on the reserved half but ignored the "this other half is closed" and the staff at the golf course was not enforcing this. This was completely unexpected. This was also only an hour or so into the tournament.

The PDGA was working on a solution with the golf course when Brodie did what he did. The PDGA was already working on reserving the remaining part but then you saw what happened.

The PDGA offered to refund Brodie (since they were going to do pay anyway) and he flat out refused. He then made a video claiming that the PDGA lied to him and never mentioned that he refused the money. Coincidently (or not), he shortly after had a paid endorser story on his social media pages.

The PDGA has rented the entire facility for the remaining part of the event.

All Brodie accomplished, in the end, was a ton of social media impacts that I'm sure far exceed the $1,000 he paid. He did not change the outcome of the facility being rented.

When you may not hit the cash line final day, you need to do something I suppose. Love the one side of the story being pumped out yesterday, thanks for bringing in the additional facts.

Norvelljeff 06-23-2021 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by _MTL_ (Post 3731040)
Half of the range was reserved. The reason that it appeared it wasn't was ball golfers were allowed to hit on the reserved half but ignored the "this other half is closed" and the staff at the golf course was not enforcing this. This was completely unexpected. This was also only an hour or so into the tournament.

The PDGA was working on a solution with the golf course when Brodie did what he did. The PDGA was already working on reserving the remaining part but then you saw what happened.

The PDGA offered to refund Brodie (since they were going to do pay anyway) and he flat out refused. He then made a video claiming that the PDGA lied to him and never mentioned that he refused the money. Coincidently (or not), he shortly after had a paid endorser story on his social media pages.

The PDGA has rented the entire facility for the remaining part of the event.

All Brodie accomplished, in the end, was a ton of social media impacts that I'm sure far exceed the $1,000 he paid. He did not change the outcome of the facility being rented.

Thank you for posting this. What a giant (literally) baby.

Shankapotamus 06-23-2021 12:27 PM

PDGA will probably need extra staff to sort through the mountain of bids they receive to host the next Major.

Streets 06-23-2021 12:54 PM

I'm waiting for the limited run of Zones commemorating Brodie singlehandedly saving Worlds 2021. :|

txmxer 06-23-2021 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by _MTL_ (Post 3731040)
Half of the range was reserved. The reason that it appeared it wasn't was ball golfers were allowed to hit on the reserved half but ignored the "this other half is closed" and the staff at the golf course was not enforcing this. This was completely unexpected. This was also only an hour or so into the tournament.

The PDGA was working on a solution with the golf course when Brodie did what he did. The PDGA was already working on reserving the remaining part but then you saw what happened.

The PDGA offered to refund Brodie (since they were going to do pay anyway) and he flat out refused. He then made a video claiming that the PDGA lied to him and never mentioned that he refused the money. Coincidently (or not), he shortly after had a paid endorser story on his social media pages.

The PDGA has rented the entire facility for the remaining part of the event.

All Brodie accomplished, in the end, was a ton of social media impacts that I'm sure far exceed the $1,000 he paid. He did not change the outcome of the facility being rented.

Just like Brodie’s side of the story is incomplete, this sounds incomplete as well.

The PDGA was “working on it”, yet Brodie was able to get it done ? Your previous post you lamented those that didn’t get to take advantage of Brodie’s generosity yet NOW your story is the PDGA was working on it and all Brodie did was make a spectacle of himself.

I didn’t know who you were prior to the PP stuff. Didn’t really take sides there.

You don’t seem to be a person of significant integrity, character, nor professional restraint. JMO.

BigDickHyzer 06-23-2021 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by txmxer (Post 3731080)
Just like Brodie’s side of the story is incomplete, this sounds incomplete as well.

The PDGA was “working on it”, yet Brodie was able to get it done ? Your previous post you lamented those that didn’t get to take advantage of Brodie’s generosity yet NOW your story is the PDGA was working on it and all Brodie did was make a spectacle of himself.

I didn’t know who you were prior to the PP stuff. Didn’t really take sides there.

You don’t seem to be a person of significant integrity, character, nor professional restraint. JMO.

He's been known for belittling people online for quite some time now. He's been "working on it" but is still widely considered a jerk. He does provide some valuable insight at times, but his insider knowledge just contributes to his arrogance.

ru4por 06-23-2021 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by txmxer (Post 3731080)
Just like Brodie’s side of the story is incomplete, this sounds incomplete as well.

The PDGA was “working on it”, yet Brodie was able to get it done ? Your previous post you lamented those that didn’t get to take advantage of Brodie’s generosity yet NOW your story is the PDGA was working on it and all Brodie did was make a spectacle of himself.

I didn’t know who you were prior to the PP stuff. Didn’t really take sides there.

You don’t seem to be a person of significant integrity, character, nor professional restraint. JMO.

Wow....that is a lot of interwebz intuition. :\

ru4por 06-23-2021 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDickHyzer (Post 3731090)
He's been known for belittling people online for quite some time now. He's been "working on it" but is still widely considered a jerk. He does provide some valuable insight at times, but his insider knowledge just contributes to his arrogance.

More incredulous insight into the psyche of someone you only know on the internet. Any mirrors in that glass house of yours??

How about we stick to Brodie bashing, per the thread topic?? :thmbup:

Streets 06-23-2021 01:39 PM

While I'm not sticking up for Brodie's attention whoring...why didn't the PDGA have the foresight to rent the entire range?

TheOtherBill 06-23-2021 01:44 PM

What was the range status on previous PDGA events there?

txmxer 06-23-2021 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 3731092)
Wow....that is a lot of interwebz intuition. :\

His childish comments about PP? Then he attempted to walk those back.

Now he’s does a 180 on this within 24 hrs.

It’s not hard to see.

txmxer 06-23-2021 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOtherBill (Post 3731099)
What was the range status on previous PDGA events there?

Irrelevant.

TheOtherBill 06-23-2021 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by txmxer (Post 3731101)
Irrelevant.

:rolleyes:

So are you, nanny nanny boo boo.

plus you seem to frequently cr@p on my posts with your opinions. Please stop.

_MTL_ 06-23-2021 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by txmxer (Post 3731080)

The PDGA was “working on it”, yet Brodie was able to get it done ? Your previous post you lamented those that didn’t get to take advantage of Brodie’s generosity yet NOW your story is the PDGA was working on it and all Brodie did was make a spectacle of himself.

Its more complex than just walking in an buying it. It simply can't be there for one day and then not another with pool play. Is it available every day? What times on those days? When does the water sprinklers turn on? What is the range's policy on closing in inclement weather? Who picks up all the golf balls that are now out there because people were hitting? When does that happen?

I'll be very clear, I am not in Utah. The fact that he turned down the offer was not heard from a staffer or PDGA employee, but someone in the know. I wouldn't say something for shock value.

But I know that these are the conversations about the issues and what would need to happen because I've been in those rooms. You can't make snap decisions and focus on the immediate positive result. That's what Brodie did. You have to think big picture.

The only thing worse than not having the facility available would be having available for half of the field and not the other half.

I don't like how he handled the situation, but I do respect that he took action. However, the actions he took after it happened were, in my opinion, a calculated PR stunt. The whiskey ad to me shows that.


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Originally Posted by txmxer (Post 3731080)
You don’t seem to be a person of significant integrity, character, nor professional restraint. JMO.

Rude? Sure. Abrasive? Sure. Cocky? yup. I've heard all those things. And there is truth in them.

But no one who actually knows me or has dealt with me has every questioned my integrity or honesty.

ChrisWoj 06-23-2021 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by _MTL_ (Post 3731105)
But no one who actually knows me or has dealt with me has every questioned my integrity or honesty.

Carolina Hurricane fans, by default, should be considered lacking in integrity. No need to question what you already know isn't there.

_MTL_ 06-23-2021 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisWoj (Post 3731106)
Carolina Hurricane fans, by default, should be considered lacking in integrity. No need to question what you already know isn't there.

Now thats funny! lol

I mean, I get it. Columbus hasn't been past the second round in....well...ever. So I get the salt.

ChrisWoj 06-23-2021 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by _MTL_ (Post 3731107)
Now thats funny! lol

I mean, I get it. Columbus hasn't been past the second round in....well...ever. So I get the salt.

One eyed squirrel, nut.

Salty nut.

oddjob 06-23-2021 02:13 PM

So while the pdga and course were working on an arrangement for the week, they sold the range to some other guy for the day?

JlawOK.gif

txmxer 06-23-2021 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by _MTL_ (Post 3731105)
Its more complex than just walking in an buying it. It simply can't be there for one day and then not another with pool play. Is it available every day? What times on those days? When does the water sprinklers turn on? What is the range's policy on closing in inclement weather? Who picks up all the golf balls that are now out there because people were hitting? When does that happen?

I'll be very clear, I am not in Utah. The fact that he turned down the offer was not heard from a staffer or PDGA employee, but someone in the know. I wouldn't say something for shock value.

But I know that these are the conversations about the issues and what would need to happen because I've been in those rooms. You can't make snap decisions and focus on the immediate positive result. That's what Brodie did. You have to think big picture.

The only thing worse than not having the facility available would be having available for half of the field and not the other half.

I don't like how he handled the situation, but I do respect that he took action. However, the actions he took after it happened were, in my opinion, a calculated PR stunt. The whiskey ad to me shows that.




Rude? Sure. Abrasive? Sure. Cocky? yup. I've heard all those things. And there is truth in them.

But no one who actually knows me or has dealt with me has every questioned my integrity or honesty.


I’ll grant you he added on the PR stunt.

To think that upon seeing the clusterF going on you need to get a board room full of people to go over to clubhouse and say—we’ve got a problem, what can we do to fix it? Sounds like BS to me.

This had a simple solution, Brodie did it.

All you had to do was acknowledge that, say “thanks” and offer to compensate him.

Did Brodie need to be an attention whore? That’s what he does. It’s literally his livelihood. If he goes to far, he will lose following.

You/PDGA (Professional DGA) should be more restrained when it comes to these interactions. IMO. Everyone has a role to play. Athletes performances and personalities are what sports market.

I respect that most of the effort to put together any tournament is volunteer. Mistakes and errors happen and people busting their butt for free shouldn’t be judged to harshly.

A different approach and we could all be Brodie bashing for attention whoring.

txmxer 06-23-2021 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOtherBill (Post 3731102)
:rolleyes:

So are you, nanny nanny boo boo.

plus you seem to frequently cr@p on my posts with your opinions. Please stop.

My apologies. Didn’t mean to come across so abrupt.

I don’t fault them for the way the range was setup—it was a mistake. Just the way this drama is being addressed is to play tit for tat.

I expect social media influencers to be attention whores and the Professional DGA to attempt to be professional.

brutalbrutus 06-23-2021 03:39 PM

He's sure getting an education out there on the course... Currently in 132nd place...:eek:

Streets 06-23-2021 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3731144)
He's sure getting an education out there on the course... Currently in 132nd place...:eek:

Maybe he should have spent more time on the driving range.

pjhayes7 06-23-2021 05:19 PM

I am not sure i understand the Brody appeal/hate. He is obviously a personality and does bring eyes to the sport mostly for that reason. But he is not a good enough player to really hate. I don't find him personally that interesting, so I just ignore him. I guess if he were on lead card coverage i could see being annoyed by him, but it is not like he is. So why do so many concern themselves with someone who obviously annoys them? There are plenty of social media personalities that I have run across that I have no interest in ever seeing again and there is just not enough time in my day to be bothered to care.

Seriously, why do people love to hate Brody? I genuinely don't understand why he is worth caring about.

BillFleming 06-23-2021 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pjhayes7 (Post 3731187)
I am not sure i understand the Brody appeal/hate. He is obviously a personality and does bring eyes to the sport mostly for that reason. But he is not a good enough player to really hate. I don't find him personally that interesting, so I just ignore him. I guess if he were on lead card coverage i could see being annoyed by him, but it is not like he is. So why do so many concern themselves with someone who obviously annoys them? There are plenty of social media personalities that I have run across that I have no interest in ever seeing again and there is just not enough time in my day to be bothered to care.

Seriously, why do people love to hate Brody? I genuinely don't understand why he is worth caring about.

I think it is because he is new to disc golf and is so arrogant about it. He comes across as thinking that he is the greatest thing that happened to disc golf and everyone better agree with his ideas/opinions.

(and I've met him and tried to chat with him after a round).

Hampstead 06-23-2021 06:32 PM

Brodie Smith saved disc golf!


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