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Technohic 03-18-2010 07:56 PM

Lat 64 Pure
 
So, when ordering my fund raiser Reef, I also ordered a Pure. Figured my putters are usually more overstable so, a good excuse to try some various stability in putters.

Anyway, been eyeballing the Pure for a while seeing as I like my Core so much.

Anyone use one?

Thoughts?

adamb258 03-18-2010 08:12 PM

Havent tried the pure but I love the zeroline plastic. Lately ive been putting my spikes out as far as my other plastic sometimes.

Technohic 03-18-2010 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamb258 (Post 297289)
Havent tried the pure but I love the zeroline plastic. Lately ive been putting my spikes out as far as my other plastic sometimes.

I wasnt sure which plastic to get as I saw DGC had "grip" line but it looked glossy, and I dont care for a glossy finish on putters so I went with Zeroline.

adamb258 03-18-2010 08:22 PM

I did the same thing, still haven't tried gripline but I like the zeroline so much I have no reason to try it. I have 2 spikes in zeroline and there are each a bit different from the other, one is a bit tackier and the other a bit more firm. I am not sure which is more of a representation of the traditional zeroline but they both feel awesome.

Mightyredpanda 03-18-2010 08:28 PM

I use them as my main putter and for turnover/anhyzer drives out to about 300ft, they dont handle the wind to well though but that is what i got my Sinus.SP/APs for. For just plain putting it is the best i ever had.

billnchristy 03-18-2010 08:35 PM

I don't like the gripline as much...it strangely is not as grippy.

I now have 3 zero spikes and 1 grip spike. Spike is an excellent putter and BH driver.

Technohic 03-18-2010 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mightyredpanda (Post 297303)
I use them as my main putter and for turnover/anhyzer drives out to about 300ft, they dont handle the wind to well though but that is what i got my Sinus.SP/APs for. For just plain putting it is the best i ever had.

I am hoping to get that sort of flight out of it. My Bangers and Wizards will turn over but they either like to come back some, or i get them too far over and it kills some distance. Went it to not fight out of the turn without being at such a sharp turning angle; if that makes sense.

wtafro 03-18-2010 10:22 PM

What does the edge look like on the Pure?

Technohic 03-18-2010 10:34 PM

Not sure. I just ordered mine but supposedly its deeper than the Spike.

Technohic 03-24-2010 10:24 PM

OK, have it, played 2 rounds with it and its a little shallower than a Wizard, no bead really, but the edge is slightly beveled and not as blunt.

Well, I blame that edge for me not really likeing it for putting as it seems, even when hitting dead center on the basket, it likes to bounce out off the chains with no basket contact otherwise.

Hate it for putting.

Driving it does fairly well. I need more time with it but I think it can drive about as good as my Wizard, which is suprising because it isnt as stable. It just flies straight and has no fade at all. Wizard barely does but this thing, not the slightest that I can visibly see.

Approaches. It is friggin amazing! Put spin on it like I am driving it and dont get a fade. Switch to a fan grip for a finness throw and I was litterally weaving very tight lines through trees.

I was almost too quick to write the disc off as, it cant putt and I already have the Wizard doing great driving but then I gave it some tries with different shots on approaches and it has earned a spot in my bag, at very least, for the best approach game I have ever had.

booter 03-24-2010 11:24 PM

ive been putting with the zero line for about 3 months and havnt looked back. its very nice to me and i nail more putts now than when i had the magic. its shallow and pretty fast so it feels great to me. one thing i do love is that it doesnt clover up quick and stays stiff. mine are all cycling through the bag and all are still the same,just a lil seasoned . great putter

Technohic 03-25-2010 09:25 AM

Maybe I have to putt with it more but I usually dont have those bounce outs. Thing is as accurate as anything I have ever seen however.

wtafro 03-25-2010 09:37 AM

I thought that they designed it to have a deeper rim? From Latitude's website:

Quote:

Featuring a comfortable grip and slightly deeper rim it will hold the line given to it on your approach shots. Pure is the second disc co-designed by Jesper Lundmark.
- I liked the Zero Line plastic the first time I tried it on the Spike. My grip needs a disc with a deeper rim so we designed Pure, Jesper says.
So it still does not have as deep of a rim as a Wizard or Voodoo?

Technohic 03-25-2010 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wtafro (Post 302810)
I thought that they designed it to have a deeper rim? From Latitude's website:



So it still does not have as deep of a rim as a Wizard or Voodoo?

I think they left out the part that I saw where it said "slightly deeper rim than the spike".

Take the bead off the wizard, than another beads worth of depth after that, and that might be about right. Actual measurement on the outside might come out the same but its more angled inward...

They are both still in my car, maybe I should snap a pic later.

booter 03-25-2010 09:42 AM

yea it's pretty accurate for me. Dead straight and actually has a small bit of lss .to me it's def more shallow than a wizard. I'd say it's about as deep as an xd or spike

Technohic 03-27-2010 07:02 PM

Gave it some more work today and I am starting to like it for putting more. Where the Wizard or Banger you would let hang and drift left from out a ways to play safe, this thing you have to trust and just put it right at the basket and it does pretty well.

Technohic 11-08-2010 05:31 PM

Im going to give the Pure another shot. I havent tried using it for some time and I really am not happy with my putters. They are all 0 HSS 2 LSS so Im going to use this for something different.

If it turns out I still dont like that beveled edge; I don't know. Maybe a Magic would be similar flight and less beveled?

booter 11-08-2010 07:12 PM

na magic is not like a pure in terms of flight. It has less lss which was why I switched from the pure,back to the magic. I'm using omegas now but I got rid of the pures because they were too fast for me for a putter,i beat mine ad they hardly lost lss. Magic will be straighter and have better glide. If you do wanna try something similar to the pure,try the spike, it's a less stable pure .

Technohic 11-08-2010 07:18 PM

Well I am wanting something glidier than my Ridge, Wizard or banger and I just don't care for the slickness of the Ions but I loved them for the approach shots and driving. I just remembered the Pure being pretty good at that as well and I like the plastic, just remember not caring so much for the angled nose.


I just practiced with it and seem to like the glide ok but would be open to more and a more flat nose if anyone has any ideas.

booter 11-08-2010 07:22 PM

I would try a magic then man. It has a blunt nose and good glide.

sloppydisc 11-08-2010 08:17 PM

I've thrown Spikes and they are pretty good neutral to understable putter for drives and approaches. Kind of like an XD. I'm trying to use the Wizard for all those shots so I have benched the Spike, but it is a good disc.

Technohic 11-08-2010 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booter (Post 562092)
I would try a magic then man. It has a blunt nose and good glide.

Ok. I got an email out to Dave to try to see if he could get me just what I want as far as firmness.

bikinjack 11-08-2010 10:52 PM

Anybody got a Pure in a lighter weight? A buddy of mine has been looking for one in the 165-168 or so range.

Technohic 11-09-2010 07:42 AM

Mines 172

I got a response back from Dave and he was trying to explain the names of their S, SS and SSS plastics and trying to sell me 5 for $40, which is a good deal but I dont think I need start with 5 to try, and it seems like he was not getting or acknowledging that I was getting at how some SS feel like mediums.

Maybe I should just PM Discspeed and see what hes got down there.

billnchristy 11-09-2010 08:13 AM

I have given up on my spikes. I know every disc can roll but I have had so many roll aways, weird bounce outs and other strange things with my spike that I just had to let it go. I loved it, was comfortable with it but it turned its back on me too many times.

This is the old, funky rubbery zero that felt like a million bucks.

booter 11-09-2010 08:50 AM

technohic yea pm discpeed. I believe he said he was going to be @ clearwater today or tomorrow. He'll be able t help ya.

RHINESEL 11-10-2010 03:58 AM

Pure vs. Magic
 
I just did some light testing on a Zero Pure vs. a Soft Magic.

Both discs are beat about equally 6/7 out of 10.

Test was done indoors from standing still throwing a distance of around 100 feet. Ceiling was around 10 feet.

Speed: Pure was faster. It got to the target area quickly while the Magic moseyed along.

Glide/float: I'm not really positive I can seperate glide vs. float so I'm putting them together. The Magic definitly had more float. While the the Pure had nice glide getting to the target area quickly and smoothly, the Magic seemed to float like it was held up with a balloon.

Height: The Pure liked a low line. Direct, point to point is how I'd describe it. The Magic needed more headroom to work it's way to the target.

HSS: For the speed/style I was throwing the discs they seemed pretty equal in high speed stability. I would rate it as a zero to -1. Note though the short distance I was throwing, I was not throwing them very far. Any difference between the two was probably due to the thrower.

LSS: The Pure was definitly more low speed stable. If thrown up high it will stall out and fade quickly and hard. The Magic on the other hand stayed relatively flat and just floated to the ground.

My opinion:

The Pure seems to like low fast lines. It will go where you aim it as long as you get it there quickly. I think of the two it is better suited as a "Driving" putter. The shape of the rim although about as deep as the Magic feels more comfortable in my hand with a driving grip. It reminded me more of an XD than an Aviar.

The Magic was a slow floater that needed more height. It gave of feeling of confidence knowing you didn't have to put a ton of speed to get it to where you wanted it. This disc (for me) would work better for controlled upshots than driving off the tee.

That's it. As a putter I think I'll go for the Magic as I'm more of a lob/loft "throw the phone book on the table" putter. For someone who likes to power it into the chains though the Pure may be the disc of choice.

RHINESEL 11-10-2010 04:04 AM

Oh, weights were 171g for the Pure and 172 for the Magic. Past the 5 minute mark...

valkcro 01-06-2011 09:05 PM

Thinking of trying the pure or magic on jump putts beyond 45'. My banger gt fades more than I like on long putts. Any thoughts?

coolhand 01-06-2011 09:21 PM

i've hit more putts outside the circle with my magic than any other putter i've ever thrown. i doubt i'll be switching any time soon.

SirRaph 01-06-2011 09:44 PM

I wanted to like the pure, but just couldn't find a plastic I liked it in. Grip line is much like star plastic, and glides much like a putter in star plastic...which is to say, poorly. Zero line reminded me of the crappy R-Pro runs. Slippery when compared to most putter plastic, and chunked when I hit the tray for the first time. I like the way the mold felt, just waiting until they run it in a better plastic.

Handsome Rob 01-07-2011 01:06 AM

It seems to be hit or miss with putters more so than any other disc. Every one has their favorite. Mine is the Pure. Got a small stockpile of them just in case they don't stick around. The disc feels good in hand, and just seems "trusty" to me. I like the Grip Line for (in addition to chain grabbing ability) the fact that it throws well wet or dry, and it takes a little longer to beat up. It also has just the right amount of stability to handle trick lines to the basket.

woodcutter 01-07-2011 01:35 AM

I threw Pure Zeros for a couple of month,then I tried the Spike Zeros. I love the little grip pads, I keep a stock pile.

khmer 01-07-2011 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SirRaph (Post 646474)
I wanted to like the pure, but just couldn't find a plastic I liked it in. Grip line is much like star plastic, and glides much like a putter in star plastic...which is to say, poorly. Zero line reminded me of the crappy R-Pro runs. Slippery when compared to most putter plastic, and chunked when I hit the tray for the first time. I like the way the mold felt, just waiting until they run it in a better plastic.

Perhaps you received a bad zero line pure or haven't used both the r-pro plastic and zero line plastic for an entire season yet b/c the zero line is definitely grippier than the r-pro (which feels slippery after broken in)...i just felt both disc prior to writing this :thmbup:

Both the grip and zero line are grippy to begin. However, after a couple of months the grip line feels more like the star plastic (but still grippy) and the zero line still feels grippy, kinda tacky feel. And of course, after washing both disc they feel even better...or play with them in the rain and you appreciate the zero line tremendously.

For me, I use my 173 grip line for drives 300 or less. If I want it dead straight, on drives about 240-300 then I'll release it w/slight hyzer knowing that it'll flatten out at about 150 ft. then straight on to my target. If I want it to finish a little to the right on drives 200-300 ft., then I'll release it flat. My favorite shot with the grip line pure is 240-300 ft. annie's. I just love watching it sail to my target. In between my classes today, I played a round of 27 with a friend. On one particular hole, the right side was lined up with spruce pine and the left side was wide open down hill to the creek. the basket was behind the pine trees 260 ft. I throw an anhyzer with my pure and parked it a foot from the basket. My point to the story is this; find a putter that feels good in your hands and practice situational shots and understand it's flight path & how it behaves in the air and it'll pay off. I use to practice 3/4 times per week for about an hour or so for the first 3/4 weeks on flat, hyzer, and anhyzer shots with my grip line pure before playing a round of 27...now I only spend about an hour a week. It'll be frustrating initially no doubt, but once you figure out the disc, then you'll enjoy it more.

And depending on the summer heat and humidity I may switch to the grip line for all my putting (excluding windy days, which then I have my sinus AP). But normally, I use my 173 zero line for all putting up to about 80 ft., after which, I'll throw an actual approach shot. The zero line is definitely grippier of the two and I love it. The zero line is not made for driving, unless your driving in an open grassy field. And I always find it comical when people complain how the zero line doesn't hold up as driving AFTER they've hit a trees or two :doh: I have made more putts outside 55 ft with my pure and than with any other putters. But that's only b/c I have spent a lot of time practicing with it.

I have a little stock pile of them...10 red 173 zero line pures and 5 yellow 173 grip line pures-just in case i loose on or two in a tournament

Nathanbr2 01-09-2011 05:39 AM

Just got a pure in the last batch of discs that i bought.

As a driver: Very straight flight and holds a line well. dropped it right by the hole on a 200ft or so hole (i drive 300' on average)

As an Approach disc: This is where I most like the disc, I was dropping 100' approaches within 5' or so of the basket all day, a rarity for me. the approach shot has earned this disc a place in my bag

As a putter: Still undecided on this one, been using an aviar for over 2 years, so it's hard to break out of that.

Kayman 01-10-2011 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by valkcro (Post 646408)
Thinking of trying the pure or magic on jump putts beyond 45'. My banger gt fades more than I like on long putts. Any thoughts?

A zeroline pure fades for me outside the circle. A magic is a straight putter. I used to putt with a star xd(with the flashing removed) and for me the pure fades almost the same. So in summation, don't get a pure if you are not feeling the banger gt. But, most people I have played with that jump putt prefer overstable putters...

bayouace 01-10-2011 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Rob (Post 646902)
It seems to be hit or miss with putters more so than any other disc. Every one has their favorite. Mine is the Pure. Got a small stockpile of them just in case they don't stick around. The disc feels good in hand, and just seems "trusty" to me. I like the Grip Line for (in addition to chain grabbing ability) the fact that it throws well wet or dry, and it takes a little longer to beat up. It also has just the right amount of stability to handle trick lines to the basket.

This explanation gets my vote. I really like the Pure.

prerube 01-10-2011 09:01 PM

The grip pure feels like a star aviar. The zero line feels like an aviar made out of gateway organic plastic.

Animage 01-10-2011 10:03 PM

Feels more like a midrange without all the distance potential. I really like shallow putters that feel deep (pro rhynos), however this is shallow but feels shallow. Love grip line, love driving them, but they don't do what mids do why feeling like them.

At least for my putting style they do not work.

Technohic 01-10-2011 10:29 PM

I liked it for approach and driving but not putting. I finally started looking for something "similar" but with a more blunt nose and went to the Magic and have been happy since.


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