15 times champion
 

So why don't we consider Ken Climo the 15x world champion? We count the women's protected division as a world championship, why not masters?

I'm ready for a 15x KC teebird.

Why would you equate Pro Masters to FPO?

Because neither is Open.

FPO is Open.

Probably because it's a slippery slope... if you count Masters, do you also count GMs, Legends, etc? There are plenty of people who are world champions many times over in age-protected divisions who will never have their name on a disc.

WPO is an easier line to draw. Virtually every sport has separate divisions for men and women, and there's a longstanding tradition of honoring the highest performing individuals of each gender.

I am pretty sure I have heard KC call himself a 12xchamp.....

Open to only a demographic subset. Same with masters and juniors.

Whether each person deserves their name on a disc isn't the point, Climo already has his name on many discs. Right now he is being shorted by 3 championships on his record.

Saying that we historically exclude age protected championships is agism. At one point we historically excluded women from voting, was that a good argument?

The way I see it we have gender protected divisions to match up women with their physiological peers. We honor the champions because they are the best among that physiological peer group. We have masters divisions for the exact same purpose, yet we do not honor their championships with the same vigor. What gives?

We're not even sure what defines a man versus woman any more.

Why does masters start at 40? We could have an open division for 30, 31, 32, ..., 120. We could have weight classes or classes for arm span (probably more relevant).

Recognize that all of these divisions are arbitrary to some extent. Then it becomes a bit more murky why/when some deserve the title of "world champion".


EDIT: I'm totally cool with a new batch of 15x KC Aviars tho

No, it isn't. It's just a definition. World Champ = Open World Champ.