Ok, thanks. I won’t like it then. Don’t care for the Aviar.

The P2 is basically a blunt nosed Aviar. A beadless Aviar-X

Don’t you mean beardless?

My impression is that it was the Classic Aviar in a couple other plastics. I really don't know if a different top is used for the DX Classic but it does fly straighter compared to the DX P&A as krooster described.

The P1 is also straighter than any Classic Aviar I have thrown, but I have only thrown 2 different runs of Classic Aviar. One pretty flat, one more domey from a few years later.

That said, I did try a P1 in hard P-line once, and it was more overstable than D-line. And the Classic Aviar plastic is pretty hard. I could be convinced the the D-line P1 is how a Classic Aviar would fly if it were produced in softer plastic.

Sounds as if this may be a redesigned disc and not the same as the previous Innova made P1.

I saw some team guys have gotten their hands on a RC3. Any hints as to when we will see those?

I hope they retool the Razor Claw just a bit shallower.

Also, can we get Origin in hard base plastic? I want something more understable than NEO or EXO Soft has beaten into. I could go with a Genius, but rather not add another mold.

Discmania: the new FD3 is fantastic, thank you! Also, any hints if the new Cloudbreaker is retool more or less stable? (Why retool to the exact same?) Is the special S-line very different from CB3 plastic?

Numerous reports seem to suggest the Cloudbreaker is less stable than the previous offerings. Should bomb for a lot of people. :clap:

Can’t wait to see more demos of CB1v2.

I was able to compare the new P1 in store. Arguably exact same height as the Rainmaker. Same top shoulder. Virtually same wing height, but very slightly rounded going down toward the wing. Very slightly less angle on the wing of the P1.