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strunk flugget 10-02-2022 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kp0c (Post 3841185)
Iím glad you mentioned hss and lss of the hex and reactor! Iíd say my limited throwing with both those discs (lhbh) goes in the same direction.
However, I played a quick nine from the shorts today with the purpose of improving my forehand. Every throws except for putts were lhfh. And I must say my neutron Reactor was so much easier to throw then the hex. The hss or oat resistance was much better. I felt like I could give it a good rip and it would just stay mostly straight then gently hyzer at the end. Nearly ace twice on 240ft shots.

While I was thinking the Reactor was redundant with the Hex, I think itís ability to handle my less than perfect fh form makes for a good argument to keep it in the bag. In fact, you might be correct when saying Reactor/uplink or Pyro/hex are duos that make more sense.

What about you, do you forehand your mids and how do they perform?

I donít actually forehand much at all. But when I do Iím certainly going to be choosing a reactor over the hex. I still really like the hex and it has a place in certain situations but Iím more comfortable with the reactor

strunk flugget 10-02-2022 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacobpaul81 (Post 3841198)
Picked up a few Fission Waves to try out for a Flippy disc to pair with my Proton Waves. Considering trying the Zenith for a wind driver. Anyone tried the Neutron Zenith vs. Proton Wave.

Iíve not had a proton wave but I have fission and eclipse and the zenith is a nice compliment to them. Itís extremely straight with little to no turn and then a nice fade back at the end. I still think the photon is more OSÖ

Jacobpaul81 10-02-2022 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by strunk flugget (Post 3841224)
Iíve not had a proton wave but I have fission and eclipse and the zenith is a nice compliment to them. Itís extremely straight with little to no turn and then a nice fade back at the end. I still think the photon is more OSÖ

I like to throw Proton Waves flat and let them S out. I'm throwing 165s out to around 380-400'. I was carrying Neutron but they tended to turn over on me around 340-350' as my spin rate isn't the best. I'm hoping the Fissions will be flippers / anhyzer discs. I could really use something with a touch more beef than the Proton Wave for high wind days. I've got a Proton Tesla in the bag right now - but it's too beefy. I've carried Fission / Neutron / Plasma Photons in the past - the pre-patent plasma ones were the closest but the new ones are all too beefy for me.

Jacobpaul81 10-02-2022 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kp0c (Post 3841100)

As for my mid set up, I ended up buying a few discs from a local retailer (nothing like going through a stack of the same mold to pick the best feeling one!) to replace my now OOP Axis/Vector combo. I bought 2 neutron Hex, a Matrix and a Reactor.

I didn't quite test the Matrix and Reactor enough though to figure out if they will complement the Hex or just be redundant. I have to find a way to throw them a little more to figure it out. Might have to leave the Hex out of the bag for a week just to force me to throw the other 2. I'm definitely looking at bagging a mid that's more OS than the Hex, so hoping the Matrix or Reactor will fill that slot, but I'm thinking I should have probably skipped either the Matrix or the Reactor to get something more OS to have wider spread covered.

My finding is people who throw the Reactor, tend to carry OS / US discs to pair with it while players who throw the Matrix tend to only carry it and use multiple plastics to obtain different flights.

I've tried both - and stuck with the Matrix. It feels like a super-fast putter as opposed to a traditional midrange. I carry it in both Neutron and Proton - the Proton is slightly overstable while Neutron is stable and will hold anhyzers. It's like a longer faster Atom.

If you liked the Axis / Vector - you'll probably prefer the Reactor.

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As for US fairway drivers (speed 6 to 9ish), I don't see anything in the MVP/Axiom lineup that I want. I love the Crave (bought a few with the Hex and they fly great) and I'm sure a beat up Crave will feel amazing, but in the meantime, I'd really love an US fairway that I can throw on a small hyzer and just have it flip a little bit past flat and just drift the whole flight. I'm eying the Streamline Ascend for that. I'm gonna search the forum for other's experience with it, hopefully it's positive. I can get the Crave to drift for quite a bit on a flat release, but I have to juice it a little, and it still has a bit of fight at the end. I'm hoping the ascend allows me to finesse it a little bit and still get some nice anhyzer lines.
I don't carry overstable / understable discs. I tend to favor stable and vary plastic / weight. Right now, the 6.5 speeds are slim pickings. They cut several when they moved production in-house and they've done a poor job of keeping the remaining ones in stock (except the Crave which must be the top seller). But be patient - they've got a couple in the works (Rhythm and Cypher) that have been PDGA approved which should be released very soon. I believe the Rhythm will be the disc you're looking for.

Muiriddin 10-02-2022 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by strunk flugget (Post 3841223)
I donít actually forehand much at all. But when I do Iím certainly going to be choosing a reactor over the hex. I still really like the hex and it has a place in certain situations but Iím more comfortable with the reactor

As a primary forehand player, I can say the reactor, or pyro is easier for me to get consistent results with than the hex or uplink. However when I get a good release and force the hex over just enough, and it then pulls outÖ. It is SO satisfying and goes so far! The uplink forehand hyzer flip is also a LOT of fun!

I consider the Hex to be my OAT detector, it definitely helps me clean up my forehand form!

Jacobpaul81 10-02-2022 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacobpaul81 (Post 3694778)
Not sure when I'll get to hit a course - I'm re-siding the house at the moment. Spring 2021 bag is shaping up:

2 x 164 Proton Waves
2 x 163 Proton Defys
2 x 163 Proton Craves
1 x 153 Neutron Proton blend Crave
4 x 168 SE Neutron Matrixes
2 x 168 Neutron Entropys
3 x 168 Neutron Atoms

Lot of this is still in the rig from this post in March. Ditched the Defys. I lost a couple craves somewhere along the way. I use to carry the Proton Matrix - I've worked it back in and it gets thrown pretty heavy.

2 x 164 Proton Wave
2 x 163 Fission Wave (incoming)
1 x 163 Proton Crave
2 x 168 Proton Matrix
4 x 168 SE Neutron Matrix
2 x 168 Neutron Entropy
3 x 168 Neutron Atom

Obviously I try to work a course with the Matrix and slip my other drivers in where necessary. I throw putters and fairways roughly the same distance (300') and my mids 320-330' and DDs up to 400'. I really need a better fairway option - I'm just not a Crave fan.

ThrowaEnvy 10-02-2022 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Muiriddin (Post 3841239)
As a primary forehand player, I can say the reactor, or pyro is easier for me to get consistent results with than the hex or uplink. However when I get a good release and force the hex over just enough, and it then pulls out…. It is SO satisfying and goes so far! The uplink forehand hyzer flip is also a LOT of fun!

I consider the Hex to be my OAT detector, it definitely helps me clean up my forehand form!

I have been surprised by the uplink FH, it did better than I thought. Mostly it's a get out of jail/ no other option shot.

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Originally Posted by strunk flugget (Post 3841223)
I don’t actually forehand much at all. But when I do I’m certainly going to be choosing a reactor over the hex. I still really like the hex and it has a place in certain situations but I’m more comfortable with the reactor

Both of y'all is weird.. Haha, my hexes are 170g, my reactors are a 155 fission and a 175 eclipse :D but I find it doesn't handle the torque as well for me with sub 300 power. I find the hex just rides a straight laser line and is so reliable for me on a FH. That's how it got the bag space. I would have said the reactor turns a touch easier but fades harder, more of an S shaper. My FH game is admittedly sloppy and less advanced.

It's kinda like a Buzzz/ Wasp combo, I do prefer the 155 fizz reactor for BH.

strunk flugget 10-02-2022 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ThrowaEnvy (Post 3841252)

It's kinda like a Buzzz/ Wasp combo, I do prefer the 155 fizz reactor for BH.

Man the buzzz/wasp combo was my jam for so long. Itís honestly one of my biggest beefs with the reactor. I like that disc so much but it would be nearly perfect if it was 0 2. When rocking only two mids I use the fission reactor and uplink. But with more than two itís going to be the eclipse, fission, and uplink all the time.

mas30066 10-02-2022 08:34 PM

Just moved some good spares to order another pair of the Plasma Vanishes from the pro shop. First impressions have been really favorable. More stable than the flight numbers and really comfortable in the hand. If youíre on the fence, consider this a nudge.

lee76007 10-02-2022 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacobpaul81 (Post 3841198)
Picked up a few Fission Waves to try out for a Flippy disc to pair with my Proton Waves. Considering trying the Zenith for a wind driver. Anyone tried the Neutron Zenith vs. Proton Wave.

My Zenith held its own this past Thursday on a mostly open course with what was left of hurricane Ian passing by 15-25 mph winds and gusting higher in Virginia Beach. When I used it placing the Zenith right where I wanted it, especially around water holes. First impressions great wind disc that will get another workout this Saturday with same type of winds forecast. I've had it for 6 weeks and an outstanding disc for hitting gaps on the heavily wooded courses I play, just need to make sure there's room for an ending fade.

I had a Proton Wave before trading it for something else 3 months ago, but I got more distance off of a Fission Wave, and the Proton would pop up on canopy courses, so I wasn't using it much.

Thursday was my second day for strong wind play, were getting into our windy season in Virginia Beach so I'm now feeling the discs out. I've been changing out my bag to MVP since April. Theses have been the superstars so far able to play from any wind direction. Neutron Relativity, Neutron Catalyst, Plasma Octane, Plasma Wave, Neutron Zenith, Neutron Virus, Plasma Insanity, Plasma Crave, Neutron Servo, Neutron and Eclipse Reactor, and Plasma Envy. Lots of 2nd and 3rd throws over 4 rounds so far.

Other discs still need to figure it out, I'll post on the thread later as I go along. We'll have winds up to 40 and gusting to 60 a few times over the winter, need to get that bag ready!


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