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in4d 03-11-2019 12:36 PM

still no mention of the new discs approved a couple weeks ago..

also surprised that MVP hasnt gone for a top 10 MPO to represent their brand, they have a tour stop and are the only company that sponsors a NT but doesnt have a top level competitor.. thats odd to me

Sias is top level potential just not consistent

brutalbrutus 03-11-2019 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by in4d (Post 3427579)
still no mention of the new discs approved a couple weeks ago..

also surprised that MVP hasnt gone for a top 10 MPO to represent their brand, they have a tour stop and are the only company that sponsors a NT but doesnt have a top level competitor.. thats odd to me

Sias is top level potential just not consistent

It will happen eventually. Whether its them actually signing an established top male pro or one of the younger guys breaks out. Sias' 1090 and if/when Hokom wins a top level event will probably help that, imo…


... I think there is still a bit of uncertainty out there that you can compete at the top level with MVP plastic.

VLaForce2002 03-11-2019 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3427586)
... I think there is still a bit of uncertainty out there that you can compete at the top level with MVP plastic.

This is a fascinating statement. Is it based on analysis of the level of pros who have signed with MVP, or is it based on statements made by individuals in the top 20-30 players?

brutalbrutus 03-11-2019 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by VLaForce2002 (Post 3427591)
This is a fascinating statement. Is it based on analysis of the level of pros who have signed with MVP, or is it based on statements made by individuals in the top 20-30 players?

Its based off my 4-5 years of throwing MVP and the reactions I got from other players for most of it.

elmexdela 03-11-2019 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3427586)
It will happen eventually. Whether its them actually signing an established top male pro or one of the younger guys breaks out. Sias' 1090 and if/when Hokom wins a top level event will probably help that, imo…


... I think there is still a bit of uncertainty out there that you can compete at the top level with MVP plastic.

more uncertainty is can you really win open without midranges

ThrowaEnvy 03-11-2019 10:35 PM

What was that? Did someone fart, I heard something.... Kinda sounded like a s*** whisper.

Halcón 03-13-2019 04:43 PM

Elaine King Fission Photon? Finally they give one of their best drivers some props. I hope it comes in 130's weights.

Arisugawa 03-13-2019 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Halcón (Post 3428518)
Elaine King Fission Photon? Finally they give one of their best drivers some props. I hope it comes in 130's weights.

We are very happy for Elaine, especially since it is the first signature disc produced by MVP. Exciting event for several reasons. :clap:

brutalbrutus 03-13-2019 10:50 PM

https://media.cdnws.com/_i/20907/m84...ron-mikec.jpeg

brutalbrutus 03-14-2019 02:17 AM

http://ih1.redbubble.net/image.15728...0,white.u3.jpg

Definitely need a Siasquatch sig disc...

Soft Envy Sias?...

wolfmandragon 03-14-2019 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3428668)

Those were just special runs.

brutalbrutus 03-14-2019 08:35 AM

Oops... I forgot to load that pic with the sarcasm filter...;)

funguy 03-14-2019 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3428696)
http://ih1.redbubble.net/image.15728...0,white.u3.jpg

Definitely need a Siasquatch sig disc...

Soft Envy Sias?...

I was thinking more Anode.

Titanic_Sinks 03-14-2019 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3428696)

Definitely need a Siasquatch sig disc...

Soft Envy Sias?...

My first batch is currently undergoing the stamping process!

elmexdela 03-14-2019 02:44 PM

anyone pull the trigger on the new prism insanity or plaz motion preorders

brutalbrutus 03-14-2019 08:53 PM

Dollar on the live card tomorrow at WACO...

in4d 03-14-2019 09:18 PM

Matt Dollar is a great putter from what i saw last year. he missed one inside the circle today, I imagine he can hold top card if he simply makes everything inside the circle, or makes more from circle 2 (he missed 4 putts under 20m). compare that with wysocki who only missed 1 putt under 20m.

either way, glad he is doing so well with the MVP

BrotherDave 03-15-2019 08:41 PM

Poor Graham Russel was having some spit out issues in that Rd 1 Maricopa vid. Maybe he needs to sand the edges off his square fingers and switch to the Ion. ;)

rusch_bag 03-15-2019 09:06 PM

Looks like MVP products are good for thumbers.

discerdoo 03-15-2019 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rusch_bag (Post 3429401)
Looks like MVP products are good for thumbers.

I use a 163g plasma Tesla for the few thumbers I throw. Lighter weight is easier on my 57 year old shoulder. Pans nicely with some air under it.

ThrowaEnvy 03-16-2019 06:24 PM

What is my malfunction?

Why do I feel the repeated need to try and make an all MVP/Axiom bag?

I was setting up for some practice.. 3 Envys, 2 Switches and figured on 2 Comets.. But then a Spin and a Vertex jumped in and booted a Comet out so there was space for my "tin"

elmexdela 03-16-2019 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ThrowaEnvy (Post 3429601)
What is my malfunction?

Why do I feel the repeated need to try and make an all MVP/Axiom bag?

I was setting up for some practice.. 3 Envys, 2 Switches and figured on 2 Comets.. But then a Spin and a Vertex jumped in and booted a Comet out so there was space for my "tin"

youll be back for the discraft mids

ThrowaEnvy 03-16-2019 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by elmexdela (Post 3429608)
youll be back for the discraft mids

Well if they would hurry up and sponsor me I wouldn't have this dilemma.

ThrowaEnvy 03-16-2019 10:04 PM

Yeah man its tough parting with the Comet / Tursas in the bag.. Some kind of sentimental yet functional attachment to the Comet and the Tursas because it's everything I love about a sweet Esp Comet. There's definitely some deep seated issues with my relationship with the Comet.

I gotta give the Vertex props... it's fun to throw but I wish it had more glide.

elmexdela 03-16-2019 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ThrowaEnvy (Post 3429683)
Yeah man its tough parting with the Comet / Tursas in the bag.. Some kind of sentimental yet functional attachment to the Comet and the Tursas because it's everything I love about a sweet Esp Comet. There's definitely some deep seated issues with my relationship with the Comet.

I gotta give the Vertex props... it's fun to throw but I wish it had more glide.

there are some individuals that are sick who swear by the fuse

BrotherDave 03-16-2019 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by elmexdela (Post 3429684)
there are some individuals that are sick who swear by the fuse

*raises hand*

I really can't wait for the Opto-X Fuse to come out.

wolfmandragon 03-17-2019 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ThrowaEnvy (Post 3429683)
Yeah man its tough parting with the Comet / Tursas in the bag.. Some kind of sentimental yet functional attachment to the Comet and the Tursas because it's everything I love about a sweet Esp Comet. There's definitely some deep seated issues with my relationship with the Comet.

I gotta give the Vertex props... it's fun to throw but I wish it had more glide.

I will second having a weird relationship with the Comet. I put the Alias back in my bag, taking the swirl-glo Comet out(I lost my Z)

I lambast MVP/Axiom mids all the time...but I forget that the Alias is listed as a mid! I think of it as a putter most of the time, but I love it. Why did I ever take it out of my bag?

I still need another max weight firm Z Comet, but something else has to come out of the bag, not the Alias.

Moose33 03-17-2019 10:39 AM

Honestly I can’t get down with the Comet, the grip is so chunky it’s hard to be consistent. Really been digging the Matrix though... the flight is really great.

elmexdela 03-17-2019 10:44 AM

x comets are sweet too

i dont like throwing the comet but i like watching others throw it

i throw the ion instead its like the modern and improved version of the comet

i also dont like throwing the proxy but i enjoy watching others throw it

in4d 03-17-2019 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by elmexdela (Post 3429811)
x comets are sweet too

i dont like throwing the comet but i like watching others throw it

i throw the ion instead its like the modern and improved version of the comet

i also dont like throwing the proxy but i enjoy watching others throw it

this

but the ion is more controllable and less touchy too

i always had trouble ranging the comet, i actually like less glide.

Arisugawa 03-18-2019 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ThrowaEnvy (Post 3429635)
Well if they would hurry up and sponsor me I wouldn't have this dilemma.

There are always discs from other manufacturers that one has difficulty parting with when switching to a single manufacturer setup, either by choice or by sponsor requirement.

I switched to all MVP / Axiom before I was sponsored, and it was very difficult to give up a few discs to do so.

My game adjusted to my tools, however. Both in the sense that I developed new shots as a result of new discs, and modified my game around the discs I no longer had.

If you're serious about switching to an all MVP / Axiom / Streamline setup, my advice is to commit to it and make the adjustments. Otherwise, don't feel compelled to do it. If your other discs are treating you well, there is no shame in that.

BrotherDave 03-19-2019 01:01 AM

I just want to point out that I had my purple Electron Ion before Hokom started putting with hers. No bandwagon over here, not that there's anything wrong with that.

ThrowaEnvy 03-19-2019 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Arisugawa (Post 3430107)
I switched to all MVP / Axiom before I was sponsored, and it was very difficult to give up a few discs to do so.

I checked your bag... what are you doing for BH mid range distance? Is that Theory gliding enough or are you hopping that space with FH fairways and a variety of putters to fill all needs..

Got a round in Tangent and Vertex.. Left all my Envy in the basket at home haha. I still love that Vertex but I putt like a fiend with a Tangent. :) I've been playing with a 174 Vertex Skulboy got a second one Skulboy 177 I'm tempted to crack it out or weigh it first but I think I could really get behind a 180.

Back the Comet problem I generally need 2 or 3 discs to replace it but it naturally pairs awesome with a Tangent.. The Spin has become a bag staple, it's in for the long haul, I got a 165 electron I'm swapping for my 166 Proton. So I have short turns and downhill tunnels Sussed out... a heavy Vertex might fill the void.. I think I've got plastic fever again.

Held it down to dull roar though, I have three 165 Plasma Envies and a 166 Halloween glow coming from Marshall st.. I need to practice for the season.

I got a tourney in a wide open ball golf course.. I need noodle arm glide downhill.. Long distance some steep elevation.. I got uphill covered. whats consensus for a long turnover that doesn't burn and comes back maybe 350' power. Catalyst? Insanity? Stick with Inertias maybe heavy up 155 to 175g I was burning them last year.

jjmiller 03-19-2019 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ThrowaEnvy (Post 3430511)

I got a tourney in a wide open ball golf course.. I need noodle arm glide downhill.. Long distance some steep elevation.. I got uphill covered. whats consensus for a long turnover that doesn't burn and comes back maybe 350' power. Catalyst? Insanity? Stick with Inertias maybe heavy up 155 to 175g I was burning them last year.

No help with MVP, because I don’t know their stuff and just check in periodically to try and learn, but for steep downhill distance, a Comet is hard to beat. Even with a driver. Find your Comet replacement, and you may very well find your longest disc for steep downhill shots.

brutalbrutus 03-19-2019 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ThrowaEnvy (Post 3430511)
I checked your bag... what are you doing for BH mid range distance? Is that Theory gliding enough or are you hopping that space with FH fairways and a variety of putters to fill all needs..

Got a round in Tangent and Vertex.. Left all my Envy in the basket at home haha. I still love that Vertex but I putt like a fiend with a Tangent. :) I've been playing with a 174 Vertex Skulboy got a second one Skulboy 177 I'm tempted to crack it out or weigh it first but I think I could really get behind a 180.

Back the Comet problem I generally need 2 or 3 discs to replace it but it naturally pairs awesome with a Tangent.. The Spin has become a bag staple, it's in for the long haul, I got a 165 electron I'm swapping for my 166 Proton. So I have short turns and downhill tunnels Sussed out... a heavy Vertex might fill the void.. I think I've got plastic fever again.

Held it down to dull roar though, I have three 165 Plasma Envies and a 166 Halloween glow coming from Marshall st.. I need to practice for the season.

I got a tourney in a wide open ball golf course.. I need noodle arm glide downhill.. Long distance some steep elevation.. I got uphill covered. whats consensus for a long turnover that doesn't burn and comes back maybe 350' power. Catalyst? Insanity? Stick with Inertias maybe heavy up 155 to 175g I was burning them last year.

Vanish or a Virus maybe?

ThrowaEnvy 03-19-2019 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3430523)
Vanish or a Virus maybe?

Yeah I don't know I think those will burn pretty bad downhill.. I was wondering about hyzerflipping the Vanish. Or trying to throw something just outside my speed class.. How about the Wave will it hold up on a steep downhill?

brutalbrutus 03-19-2019 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ThrowaEnvy (Post 3430526)
Yeah I don't know I think those will burn pretty bad downhill.. I was wondering about hyzerflipping the Vanish. Or trying to throw something just outside my speed class.. How about the Wave will it hold up on a steep downhill?

Without seeing the hole you're talking about, its kinda hard to really know. The Wave is basically a speed faster Inertia. It should hold a nice controllable turnover downhill but has a good glidey fade once it kicks in.

If you dont already have a Wave, go ahead and buy one, lol. It may turn out not to be right for this shot but I am sure you will find a use for it.;) If nothing else, you can pull it out when it might be too windy for the Inertia. The Plasmas just bomb.

ThrowaEnvy 03-19-2019 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3430527)
. The Wave is basically a speed faster Inertia. It should hold a nice controllable turnover downhill but has a good glidey fade once it kicks in.

Thanks man, definitely bagging the 155 Wave for a practice round there. It's open, going to be windier then I'm used to. There's a few holes with 30 ft elevation but one is about 60ft+ high super long and steeper than 45 degrees.

elmexdela 03-19-2019 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherDave (Post 3430507)
I just want to point out that I had my purple Electron Ion before Hokom started putting with hers. No bandwagon over here, not that there's anything wrong with that.

i had one too but my bag was stolen

it had a cute puddle and clover top

it was from the first run of electrons they released which we all know was the best run of electron ions

wolfmandragon 03-19-2019 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ThrowaEnvy (Post 3430528)
Thanks man, definitely bagging the 155 Wave for a practice round there. It's open, going to be windier then I'm used to. There's a few holes with 30 ft elevation but one is about 60ft+ high super long and steeper than 45 degrees.

Calm, Wave is money. Headwind Photon. Tailwind Inertia. Crosswind or rolling winds, Plasma Volt.

All according to the wind for max. If I had to only choose 1, I would do Plasma Volt. Overall, wind affects it less than any driver, by any company, I have thrown or seen thrown.


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