Wrong thread, sorry

Back when production was limited, a Mystery Box was hard to get and DM discs were hard to find.
If you got a Mystery Box, you could flip most of the discs and make your money back, and sometimes even make a little $$.
For better or worse, the second-hand market for DM has crashed.
You can get pretty much anything you want from wherever you want, so why buy from eBay or FB?

Besides the CG FD or the S-Line MD1 or the DD1 or maybe the VaporLux Enigma, nothing else is really that re-sellable.
Message to DM, you’re gonna have to do better to sell more MB’s.
Take a hint from Ledgestone, they sell tons of discs by just recycling molds into hard to find, desirable plastics.
If you had FILLED the MB with things like the S MD1, the CG FD, the Vapor Enigma and maybe a Lux Logic or NEO Link or more discs in unique, plastic combos (and not just a bunch of X-outs and discs you couldn’t sell), then I might have gotten 1 or 2 or 3.
Marketing is about creating buzz and creating a need.
Just not enough here to get excited about…
This the first MB I’ve passed on in quite a while.
Just one person’s opinion.

Interesting take. What do you base this on?

And wow, what did skizzle do to get banned?

Kept whining about leaving and deleting his account, which he didn't. Then asked to be banned and got his wish.

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forum...d.php?t=142473

Limited Edition Discs
 

If you could pick ONE of the Limited Edition discs from this MB run (color glow FD, s-line md1, or metal flake md3, which would you pick?

Based on dissatisfied customer comments/reviews AND the general overstock of all of their products, which I take as fewer people buying their stuff.

Curious to know if you’d disagree? Seems like the DM craze/following is not what it once was, but I’m not an OG so perhaps I’m misreading the landscape.

CG FF for sure. First time for that plastic for me. Still havent held one

I tend to think now they just have way more in stock, not that people are buying any less.

I think lots of what happens on this forum for example is kinda within this niche bubble of hardcore dg'ers that have been around for years.

Says nothing about the hordes of people that got into it the last 2 summers.

I have no sales figures but looks to me theyre still growing. Suggests to me theyre doing fine.

I dont judge, either way you see it. Its just kinda funny when first its "terrible drop, sold out in 15 secs, couldnt buy one to save my life" and now its "must be something wrong since they dont sell out. I think I'll not buy one"

I wouldn’t say I was a fanatic but when Discmania moved to Colorado and having Eagle on the team (from Colorado) I was enticed to try quite a few of their molds. For a couple of years you could find the P2, FD, PD, and MD3 in my bag as those discs worked for my game and I was supporting a local company.

Having said that, as their relationship with Innova was on the downhill slide I opted to start weaning myself off their products not knowing at the time what the future had in store for their company.

Once they started distributing their Swedish models the molds and plastics just weren’t the same stuff that I had previously enjoyed and since I had already kind of moved on I just didn’t see a reason to move back towards bagging Discmania.

Have you held or thrown the IS3? Do you think I’m wrong for assuming that they’re identical, especially since they’re the same exact color way? The old night strike color glow looked different ( innova, I know, but still).

This makes a lot of sense, and as a non-OG discmaniac, you articulated exactly one of the paths a lot of their fan base has undergone.

I'd be more intrigued with the new FD or PD they are now making but they don't offer 160 class from what I can find. I did find a Zen at 168 and it's fantastic. I mostly see max weight and every once in a while I'll see a 172g on the shelf. If they would start producing 164-169 in their OG drivers I'd likely try them.

In their release video Colton said they were offering some lower weights for the Lone Howl III (for the first time in a signature series). Thought I’d pass it on if you’re interested. Just checked and there are actually several colors available in 165-169!

Pretty sure light weight FD’s are a thing. I’ve played a couple of events very recently where light weight FD’s were an option for my freebie disc. (I opted for MD3’s instead as it is a disc that could work its way back into my bag.)

S-MD1 or the CG FD.

Gotta pick one!

S-MD1 first, then the CG FD :hfive:

See I must have forgotten. It was very stable for me and therefore didnt get much airtime. I wonder if I raffled it away or where it even went lol.

IS4 is much straighter and THAT plastic is way good looking and -feeling

So IS4>IS3? I haven’t thrown it. So **** hard to find what works for you and to know what to bag without draining the bank to try EVERY variant. First world problems.

Have two mystery boxes delivered yesterday that I can’t open til Christmas.

That’s a rough wait. What’s the top 3 pulls you’re hoping for, or are you intentionally in the dark on contents?

There's also the opposite path, which is people like me who stopped throwing Discmania years ago because of the lack of availability, and now bag and enjoy all of the new molds being produced.

I tried to stay in the dark… ended up watching several vids... Of the molds that rotate, s-line MD1, Color Glow FD3, and Jackal stamp FD.

Also Glow Majesty, glow Magician, S-line PD or DD3. I’d take a soft Tactic. Any other molds in metal flake.

The only molds I don’t want are Method and C-line DD3 (have some, don’t throw them). I’m not interested in the Link or Logic.

For the DD1s, I kinda think horizon/halo/orbit is ugly, so I’d prefer them with a white middle to dye.

This is me.

I liked the original Glow FDs and gave numerous more regular FDs a try. I still have several Night Strike IIs, but they cannot stay in the bag.

I really wanted to like the PD, and threw the C-PD moderately well, but I was totally burned by the S-PDs. I was expecting maybe a seasoned C, but all five I splurged on were all flippy to the point that I could not throw them because of the expectations I had for them. I really liked the G-PD, but they were chewed up too easily and then became impossible to replace.

I also really wanted to like the P1x, but I never gelled with that.

Same for the PDx for a forehand disc, but it always felt like I was throwing a razor blade. I hate how it felt in my hand, and more so how it came out of my hand.

I gave no further consideration to their mids after not liking the MD3.

Ultimately, I gave up on them because they only had limited molds I liked, and at the time, they were not producing them in white (my preferred color because it films the best).

I have since switched my preference to fun-dyed discs and bright yellow.

During Am Masters, I gave the Rainmaker a try because I was really disappointed with my putting performance. (Of note, I usually putt better after making a change) I made several big putts to close out the tournament, and I am still putting with Rainmakers today - this is the longest I have ever stuck with a putter.

I have been throwing the Tilt since Day 1 of its release.

During LSO, I finally conceded that I was leaning too heavily on Halo Leopard3s to throw straight. Mid-tournament, I picked up a Star TeeBird and Instinct. I finished the tournament with the TeeBird, but after giving the Instinct a fair shakedown, it now has that spot in the bag.

During a fun round at The Preserve, I found a Cloudbreaker3 and threw it against my Halo Destroyers. With a nearly identical flight, it routinely squeaked out 5-10 more feet of distance. I love my dyed discs, especially my Mario Mushroom Halo Destroyer, but I picked up a few dyed Cloudbreakers (the new run) and I have not looked back.

So, after converting to several Discmania molds, I picked up a dyed Mutant and Method. The Mutant has the same stability as my Justice but a little more glide, and the Method is essentially an EMac Truth.

The only disc to currently fail me is the Sky God IV. I drive really well with the Rainmakers, but they gouge too easily with too many throws and putts. The SG IV is more stable than the Rainmakers, but they are also deeper in the hand. I have some great drives, but not consistently. Right now I am using a Premium Marvel (Birdie), but I would jump on a premium plastic Rainmaker if they become available.

I am currently trying the Origin in place of an ESP Meteor, but it seems just a tad too finicky and will likely lose out to Meteor.

I am getting a Mystery Box. I am intrigued by the DD1 but I do not think I currently have a spot in the bag for it. Maybe the one Splice I tried was a freak, but it was not going to replace the Firebirds (not FAF) I throw for my backhand stable with solid fade shot - maybe the new PD?

I also found the Sky God IV to be too deep and overstable. I recommend trying a Neo Link; they are easy to find and feel much better in my sensitive baby hand. Mine has a relatively straight flight, but can still handle power well.

Was the Splice too overstable for the slot you're looking to fill? If so, I recommend a Metal Flake FD3 or a C Line PD. Again, both are readily available and roughly equivalent for my arm. Good luck!

In my original post, I forgot to mention that I am also now throwing the Hard Tactic. This is replacing my Jawbreaker Zones and Medium Harps. In this plastic, they are dead-straight at power and when thrown line-drive low. I am talking 200-250 putter drives that I try not to get more than a few feet off the ground. This usually means I put them into the ground before they fade. Again, I am throwing a Premium Marvel for the more finesse putter drives and the Rainmakers for putting and upshots.

As for Splice. I tried a friend's and it was incredibly beefy to the point that I would not throw it backhand. It was too aggressive in the fade and then subsequent skip or flare. Right now I am using seasoned Star, Champion Glow, and Sexton Firebirds. They are straight for about 70-75% of the flight before they even think about fading. I have had super beefy Firebirds, so I would say the ones I am throwing now are the least overstable Firebirds I can come across, and they have been near perfect. So, I am no rush to replace them. Of course, I am curious to see what the Discmania equivalent would be. The Splice does not appear to be it. From prior experience, the closest I can think of would be old C-PDs. I have a small stack of Thunderbirds, but those have developed a mild turn, especially when powered. My Firebirds barely move to the right unless I give them anhyzer. That is what I want - I mainly throw flat and like the disc to do the work - these Firebirds, when powered, will fly nearly flat and straight their whole flight before dumping out on me at the 320-330 mark, finishing about 340-360.

The Discmania equivalent to a sexton Firebird is the Nordic Phenom. Not c-line and idk about the new Midnight Prowl, but the Nordic Phenom is all that- very straight until reliable fade comes very late. Maybe needs a few tree hits to get there.

The Tactic is what got me back into Discmania! I love that it's slower and less overstable than the Zone, but still very reliable. I currently bag a Razor Claw 3 and a soft.

I was considering the Razor Claw - would it be the difference you would see between a Jawbreaker Zone (Hard Tactic) and a Z Zone - whereas JB Zone/ H Tactic would fly straight and the Z Zone/ VIP Harp/ etc would be noticeable more stable/overstable?

Right now, I also bag an ESP Zone, but it gets lost between my Tactic and A2. I cannot remember the last time I threw my ESP Zone. If the Razor Claw would be noticeably but not grossly more stable than the Hard Tactic but longer than the Z/ESP Zone, I might be able to put the RC in and take two discs out. I am always looking to simplify without sacrificing shots (that was what got me in trouble with the Halo Leopard3s).

Found Something…
 

Y’all. Check out what I found by accident!

https://www.discmania.net/collection...tricted-access

THIS is the Grace not the DD1.

Do you say that because of the numbers/glide? I ask because royal plastic is super different from NEO.

Just on the numbers. I’m kinda surprised and excited about this one.

I totally agree. Imagining a glidier, longer enigma. It’s pretty exciting.

In your opinion, did discmania “make it right” with this move? Anyone have thoughts on this as a response to their discount code issue?

To be clear I’m NOT nitpicking. I just love posing questions in this forum with fellow discmaniacs!

Oh- hey! I didn’t see that email! I clicked on your link and since I wasn’t logged in, I didn’t get to order. Appreciate your additional post here, otherwise I would have missed it. I ordered three.

Had they included free shipping, I would have been 100% satisfied for the mistake. Having to pay $10 in shipping… I’m 87% satisfied. If I were actually as vindictive as my contemplative self is, I would have returned the $99 boxes and re-bought them for $89. (And then also bought these Paradigms.)

I have so many drivers now…

Are you sure you got free shipping? I did not so I thought I should ask before I started to investigate or email customer service.

I did not get free shipping. I said that’s why I wasn’t 100% satisfied

My bad. I misread!

The Tactic mold was tweaked for the Razor Claw 2 and 3 to be more overstable, and the Razor Claw 3 is the more overstable of the two. There is a noticeable difference when compared to a baseline Tactic, and they compliment each other well.

Two-apart Question
 

Do you think DM will still do a black Mystery Box, Creator Series? Or no since the Reds aren’t selling out?

If you do think they’re coming, what will be the new disc? Paradigm? Fd1? P1X?