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Today answered my first run FD2 comment. Awesome!

Since people are making requests, I think you guys should try to recreate the early (first?) run C-MD2s that were run in the grippy, opaque plastic blend. I don't know what it is about this plastic, but it just feels so good in the hand and flies great. It may not be the exact same stuff, but the recent special edition Brinster Millenium Sentinels looked pretty close. As did the pictures I saw of the Innova Store Champion Polecats. This blend, or something close, must still be possible. Make it happen!

Here's a picture of the run I am talking about. I got lucky finding these two at an out-of-town disc retailer last week :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...psb74d788f.jpg

Awesome! I'm glad they are available...will there be lighter 160ish weights in the near future?

And can you give us a heads up on future first run releases?

I think the opaque run are the best. They fly a tick less stable the new JLs, and feel oh so nice.

Any plans for a C-Line CD?

Couldn't agree with this more!

I love the PD2 for distance forehands. I'm always amazed to see the pros like David Wiggins, Simon Lizzotte, and AJ throw them so far backhand.

I'm wondering if the PD2 is an original mold or a combination of other molds? I always tell people it's like an XCal rim wit a PD top.

Also, it seems like the current Destroyers have incorporated a PD/PD2 top instead of a more Wraith like top of early runs. Any insight on that?

Thanks for all the Questions and Comments guys!

I will have to ask a few questions to get the answer about the In The Bag Videos. I will have to get back to you on that.

For rollers, I have seen several different discs used. For example; Simon Lizotte Uses the S-LINE DD2 for sky rollers, I have seen PD2's used as rollers that are kept a lot closer to the ground and for forehand rollers. And i have seen the FD and the TD thrown as rollers. I would recommend the S-LINE FD or The TD. The other two examples are much more difficult.

We got the FD2's out before i could respond

All three work, Also we are very keen to release information through social media like Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook.

We will keep this in mind for the future. There seems to be quite a following for these MD2's. I am particularly fond of the MD3, maybe I need to try one of these!

I think response is for the P-LINE PD. If so, yes they will be in the future. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

So, they are a straighter MD2 is what you are talking about? correct?

I don't know this answer I will have to ask some questions.

I love the PD2's as well. I will look into the specifics so we can give you the proper answer on what it is. All i do know for sure is that it's guaranteed to fade at the end!

I have thrown the newest Destroyers they are more overstable. But I don't have any insight on the shape of them. Sorry, it's not a Discmania product :)

Thanks guys!

I am sure you guys have some more questions!

This forum was intended to inform everyone about Discmania Discs, but there's always a chance in the future!

This Forum was intended to give everyone out there information on Discmania Discs, but there's always a chance in the future!

Thanks again for taking the time to answer all these questions! I'm excited that there will be light P PD's, however my original question was regarding if the FD2 would be available in lighter weights.

Thanks for the responses! It would even be cool to see Simon and Jussi's Japan Open bags post tourney!

I have two of the burghandi on the left and one of the yellow, all three with identical stamps. the yellow was my first cmd2 i bought. i have to agree that those are still the best. To answer Rarintal's question yeah they are a bit straighter due to less low speed fade on the end but have just as much high speed stability until you really break one in. They have more glide than any of the JL cmd2's I've had as well.

Funny, I was just about to post what New said. The older opaque MD2s definitely have less LSS but show almost the same HSS as the newer JL runs. I have both, but ultimately prefer the opaque runs because of how amazing they feel. They also beat in really nice. Beat in they still fly stable unless thrown flat and hard. They also hold great anny lines.

I currently throw all Innova, but I will be seriously tempted to buy a G-LINE PD ;) When will these be available?

Yes the C-LINE FD2's will be in lighter weights. For the European Masters Fundraiser there is still some 168's available.

found here: http://store.discmania.net/index.php...-line-fd2.html

We will keep this in mind for the future :)

I see, I will most certainly track one down to at least try one!

Soon! I can't say exactly, but it is in the works!

When are s-line fd2's looking to be out?

There is so much talk about the differenct runs of the PDs could you give me a brief run down of the different runs of the PD2 like which runs were most stable and which ones could actually be thrown for distance shots.

C-PD2s -
These and the P line were the OG for this mold. Dumb beefy until beat in and then they are just very overstable. These were discontinued when the S-PD2 released but they are back and still dumb beefy.

S-PD2s -
These were the last PD2 plastic to come out. They are even more overstable than the C-line but beat in a little faster.

P-PD2 -
These were out with the original C-line and they start out slightly less overstable than the C-line. They beat in pretty quick and achieve main distance driver status in a reasonable amount of time.

In summary: stability S-line -> C-line -> P-line and most big arms I see bagging these are throwing multiples of the c-line. Usually a slightly beat one (just to get the edge off the HSS) and a very beat one that is a little bit workable

Where did you get this info?

It seems as though Discmania's flight rating numbers sometimes are slightly altered from actual flight characteristics because it would overlap an Innova product. Are there any regulations Innova puts on your flight ratings?

Thanks for the questions guys!

I do not have an answer for you at this time. I will have to seek out more information.

The runs of the PD2 are as follows:

for the C-LINE: The super flat and hard plastic first runs are the most overstable. The current run Jolly Launcher's are the second most overstable. The second runs are the most workable for distance shots, they are more like a very overstable destroyer. The second runs look very close to the first run except it has a higher dome and is not flat, and the plastic feels much softer.

For the S-LINE: They are all pretty close to the same stability which is less than or equal to the 2nd run C-LINES. for the S-LINES, they all for the most part appear to have the same shape, the biggest difference is that if you pick a softer feeling S-LINE PD2 it will be less overstable and firmer feeling S-LINE PD2 will be more overstable.

For the P-LINE: This version of the PD2 has the most glide of all of the plastic types. If you are truly looking for distance shots this is the one you should be trying out.

Listed from most overstable to Understable:

1st Run C-LINE > Jolly Launcher C-LINE > 2nd Run C-LINE > S-LINE > P-LINE

Which discs are you talking about that don't match the actual flight characteristics?

Innova does not put any regulations on our products. We do not overlap with them because our discs are unique discs and are not copies. Good question!

What other questions do you guys have??

Do the D P2's all feel pretty similar, or are there differences between colors, runs, etc?

Do you have or know of anyone that has any proto star banshees?

^^ idk if this is the place you'll get an answer on that one, but who knows?

I've always found DM flight ratings to be on the mark (except for the 2nd run FD)

Thanks for the answer. Sometimes I tend to consider the P2 to be slightly more overstable than the 2,3,0,1. Obviously, that would overlap with a BB Aviar. I think your products are unique and deserve their own flight ratings. I respect that you strive to be progressive and not just blatantly produce clones of discs that are popular for other companies.

when are the DM shirts/sweatshirts going live?

in the head wear pictures, you have models that aren't available on the site, are there plans to release more hats/styles?

How does the new G-line P2 compare to the S-line P2 for a driving putter?

I would have to disagree with the C-PD2 stabilities a bit. I have a FR C-PD2 which is a monster, but a 2013 run C-PD2 with microbubbles in the rim and a pop top is a devourer of worlds. I am talking about FAF Firebird stable but with added speed stability. Nigh unthrowable, for any useful line. Cannot imagine a wind where the FR would not suffice.

This could if course be a matter of individual discs, but every tale I've heard of the new run pop tops is they're crazy overstable and fade hard right out of hand. Even for power throwers.

The 1st run D-LINE P2's are very soft and grippy. the 2nd run are more firm, but very grippy still. Those are really the ones we have noticed a big difference in. We tested out the 2nd Run in light weights (150 class) last week and they are very overstable, they had the same flight as the 175g counterparts.

Other than that, we haven't noted a difference in feel in plastics. The new plastic is soft and has a good amount of grip with a firm feel to it.

Sorry mate, I only have Discmania products ;)

Often different plastics have different overstabilty as you all may know. for example I notice the D-LINE P2 is not as overstable as the S-LINE P2. but, if thrown flat, the disc will fade, but not too hard. Thank you for recognizing our progress!

We do not have a set date for shirts/sweatshirts so, I don't want to give you false information. When they are ready we will get them up for sale!

There will be more hat styles in the future. Good eye!

The G-LINE P2 is a touch less overstable than the S-LINE. We only saw a slight difference in full power drives with it. otherwise it follows the S-LINE's flight path very closely.

Are you talking about the flat as a table First Run C-LINE PD2's? we did note that the darker (Red and Purple) color C-LINE PD2's are the most overstable of the new "2013 Jolly Launcher/Micro Bubble" run.

Either way, they are both seriously overstable just as the disc is supposed to be! :)

What's in the official Discmania rep's bag? :popcorn:

My bag consists of the following:

2x 175 D-LINE P2's for putting
2x 175 G-LINE P2 for driving and approaching.
4x 180 Glow MD3's for all midrange shots
1x 175 Lizotte Jolly Launcher FD (3rd Run Jolly Launcher)
2x 175 C-LINE FD2
2x 175 C-LINE DD2
1x 175 Echo S-LINE DD2
1x 171 C-LINE PD2 (Jolly Launcher)
2x 175 C-LINE PD2 (Jolly Launcher)

I have the C-LINE and S-LINE DD in there for testing at the moment as well.

Thanks for sharing what's in your bag.

Any chance there will be lighter first run G* FDs or lighter first run C-line FD2s added to the store inventory in the near future? I like fairways under 170g but I am so excited to try these new ones I will buy heavier if I have no other choice.

And any chance at lighter Simon FD's or McBeth P2's?

What, you dont bag any PDs?? For shame! :D Thats a big jump from FD2 to PD2 and DD2... but I have seen weirder combos work. Its about how you use what you have.

Can you share the different flight characteristics of all three FD runs?

If I could throw an FD as far as he can, I would consider that jump too! :thmbup:

Is there a difference in flight characteristics, feel, or shape between the regular run C MD3s and the European Open glow C MD3s? Thanks for all the great info; it makes such a huge difference to have a place to ask these questions and get good info.