I’m sure it’s coming once he starts traveling.

Hey, this could be a great thing! If pros are motivated to call foot faults by hate, that's still good. Perhaps it will even flow down to players that are currently using the lack of enforcement to cheat.

Yes, I said cheat.

That's what it is. Pro disc golfers cheat all the time, call them out on it and there are too many who have the "you rules nazi" attitude. Then those same people turn around and wonder why the sport gets no respect thru a major sponsor and/or media. :wall:

He's had to work for years to build his brand, which is why he is able to get a deal so soon... and will have to work hard to earn his next deal. Seems to me that these "offended" pros need to learn the old adage, A rising tide lifts all boats.

IMO, they should be doing everything they can outside of competition to help him succeed because it can only help all the players in the long run to have him be successful. It's not surprising that two of DGs more media savvy business people(Paul and Simon) are helping him...

He's self made and got there by throwing frisbees.

Why are you so upset about it?

I'm your huckleberry. How do we define a disc for the bet? A brand new, premium plastic disc of the winner's choice shipped to the winner's location? Or just any disc?

New premium or new-old classic DX. Maybe we provide 3 discs each for the other to choose from. Winner gets choice of 1 of the 3

Or just agree on one disc for each to offer up.

Value will have to be equal.

I would want a Roc or Teebird or Valkyrie or Leopard or old Ching Aviar.

OK. I don't have or know where to get any Ching Aviars, but I'm sure I have or can obtain some of the discs on your list.

If his PDGA rating reaches 1000 at any time this year, I win. If not you win. To be clear, we are talking about his actual rating, as published by the PDGA, averaged out however the PDGA does that for tournament players. A single 1000+ round does not give me the win. He needs to have a published PDGA rating of 1000 for me to take it.

Game on!

I'm not.

Foot fault

Bahahaha really going out in a limb there guy! 1000 rated in the first year is the floor of your measure of success? Brutal!

He won't be around the sport in 5 years. Not trying to hate, but he clearly said he wants to see how good he can get, which doesn't really project longevity to me. He has a tweet from Dec 28 that says, "i'm seriously debating seeing how good I can get" which is weird.

I see nothing about what he has done in his career endeavors thus far that says he will actually stick around for more than a couple of years either. He seems like a dude that is genuine but ultimately gets bored and moves on. I wish him the best and all but from what I can see the dude will probably max out under 1000 rated before moving onto something else or bowing out due to injury. Who knows, maybe he devotes his entire life to disc golf for the next decade and beats Paul. Doubtful though.

In 5 yrs he will be 38 and on the downswing of his athletic prowess anyway...

I think it's cool that a handful of pros are reaching out to give him some pointers. I've always found that open level players aren't so eager to let out their secrets. Could be just be me.

I'm hoping he's filming some of his training and going to let us all see what advice top pros give to a gifted beginner. Also it would be great if he's filming his form regularly to show development. There's definitely scope to see a well recorded montage of improvement from someone who is very likely to have the time and athleticism to put the advice into practice.

If he plays well, it would only take 1 round to get a 1000 rating. lol.. :P

https://www.pdga.com/faq/ratings/mininum-rounds

It’s not detailed but his Instagram gave me a glimpse of that from when he started his field work up until the point Emerson handed him a driver to throw, it was only a few throws he posted in that 2 week period but the progress he made in that short amount of time was pretty crazy. He also posted himself throwing a proto type driver in the indoor discraft field. The disc hit the wall but the momentum on it was ridiculous.

I think it's more like "I'm 32 wtf am I going to be doing in my 40s, 50s?" His youtube career is dwindling down, a long standing career in disc golf (playing, media, manufacturing) makes sense imop. Obviously his 2 million subscribers bought him a ticket to the front of the disc golf line, it will be interesting to see how long he stays there.

Wouldn't surprise me if Paul & Simon are getting paid (or just part of the job) to interact with Brodie.

That'll never happen either.

From the other Bro' thread...

My bold prediction:

Paul and Simon are not training Bro'Smith out of the goodness of their hearts. They want part of the Bro'Smith fame. They are going to start a YouTube channel themselves - My guess is just the 3 of them - Vlog / Trick Shots / Tour Life...

PMcBeth = best disc golfer on planet + brings viewers to watch him make cookies.
Simon = great disc golfer, loveable personality, Vlog is killing it + made cookies.
Bro'Smith = 2 million viewers that would watch him take a dump if posted + could make cookies.

Now consider if they put all their power rings together...


NOTE: I am enjoying all of this way too much.

^^^ Nope. It's all fun and games in the off season. Once the tour gets going, things will be all business for Paul. Simon.. never really sure where he ends up season to season. lol..

I think there's a good chance they will start creating content together more often throughout the season. The joining of their skills does make for compelling viewing possibilities. It probably depends if they can gel better on screen than the last video they did together. There is also the possibility that there will be very few lead cards without at least one of them on it which further improves the potential for their brand as a 'group'.

It's in Simon and Paul's interest to have Brodie's fans see their work and bring good content ideas, it's in Brodie's interest to have their weight with the current DG audience, skills for high quality work, knowledge and advice for his own development. They've got the connections and the know-how, Brodie has the ideas, the audience and the monetization.

Yes for sure, but it's even more likely that people will get upset his card is being covered over their favorite pro for the first round of an event.

Jordan Castro is just waiting to call him for a penalty. I can feel it.

Who is paying them? It certainly isn't Discraft.

I'd be willing to bet he has his own camera following his card. There's no way he's not going to record any of this.

The question is which will get more views...Lead card or Bro card?

In case anyone wants to know, Reddit is having an ama tomorrow with Brodie. https://www.reddit.com/r/discgolf/

That happens with nearly every first round card anyway. I would think he'll get a few "sponsor pick" lead cards at DC events... but I wouldn't think it would be early in the season, unless he just comes out of the gate firing 980+ rounds. Memorial is a DC event but probably not the type of courses you would want to highlight your nooby guy on... 10+ OBs later...:D

Not a violation either. Within 10m the player must demonstrate balance before advancing past the marker. That's all. Doesn't matter what the disc is doing.

Just coincidence - by the time a player has demonstrated balance, most putts will have come to rest anyway.



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I can't believe I watched that video of Simon & Paul making cookies. I'm disgusted with myself that I sat through the whole thing.

Possibly on the part of Brodie's contract is my thought have him get payed or have it in his contract to get training from top level in rating players to help with his game in order to have the lowest full time touring level sponsorship that could have him safe with enough money to keep touring even on the cheep end if he never cashes.

Simon isn't going to be involved in any part of a contract that Brodie signed with Discraft.

Brodie may have agreed a fee with them as individuals, or, just for now, enjoying each others company and appetite for the game with a view to perhaps forming something more formal between themselves later if they gel.

It was interesting that DC and DM were happy for Paul and Simon to swap discs for a round so it seems likely both brands are encouraging their collaborations.

Because they both realize manufacturers need to work together to grow the sport, what better way than a collaboration between the disc golf trick shot guru and the world champ. Adding Brodie in the mix takes that even further. Look at the views their first trick shot video a couple months ago

Hmmm... anhyzer topped Forces. Tasty.

Why not start some unfounded rumors. ;)

You kind of lost me on this one.

Are you saying he either gets paid money, or instead is trained by top players? That's a bizarre contract.

Imop..highly unlikely...due to Simon and Paul's position with their companies/contract is more like a job/boss so they would have to break out of that before they could do anything on their own. Now maybe....Paul & Brodie could do something, but it would ultimately just be a vlog series posted on the DC channel.

Guessing their salary/contract has some social media requirements, and I'm sure behind the scenes everything disc golf related has to be approved.

Brodie is used to the "revenue stream" concept. I doubt his contract includes a salary like Paul or Simon has. I would think Discraft gave him an all you can eat plastic deal, tour stamp disc deal, and a sliding bonus scale based on his performance in actual tournaments. I could also see some kind of long term paid/job media position with the company being hammered out. He has value in both Ultimate and Discgolf.

They know he has no chance of competing at their level, currently.

Or maybe Paul and Simon are trying to better their brand and following from someone who already has a fantastic following and returning the favor by giving Brodie some DG pointers. Seems like a mutually beneficial relationship to me.