Originally Posted by navel (Post 3644218)

Great example video of what not to do.
Bad shoulder angle, dragging the disc along / rounding / "strong-shouldering", no brace, backwards x-step, open hips, open lead foot, the timing is way off, chicken wing follow through, flailing off-arm, bad balance... The list goes on.
Hmm.. May I suggest you try and be more explosive Rodeo? Lol. That might work for you! :D

Originally Posted by RoDeO (Post 3644266)

What is a chicken wing follow through?

Originally Posted by RoDeO (Post 3644266)

What is a chicken wing follow through?

Originally Posted by navel (Post 3644287)

Sorry english isn't my first language. What I mean is that you seem focus too much on turning your shoulders fast. What ends up happening is that your shoulders slam the brake when you are opening up. And your follow through stops short with your throwing arm having to slam down against your side like a wing instead of following through the shot. It's just a side effect of trying to force shoulder turn.

Originally Posted by RandyC (Post 3644211)

Once again there are too many threads here to discuss pretty much the same thing but you could leave out the strong part in that term and just say arming. You can either do it with muscle tension or with a limp arm. Infact your throw is a good example of limp arming the disc.

Man running backwards with an internally rotated front shoulder turns forward and swings a limp arm out to external rotation, there is no shoulder turn which means there is no hips. That front shoulder gives the illusion and maybe the feel as if your shoulder were turning but thats not true. So you are just going from neutral to open.
https://youtu.be/RIY8hZh9UWw

Originally Posted by RoDeO (Post 3644309)

What do you mean by limp arming the disc?

Originally Posted by RandyC (Post 3644327)

Same thing as strong arming except with loose muscles, you should definently stay loose, nothing wrong with that. It is just that is your main source of power + little bit of momentum from your running. So the distance gain from it just a tiny bit more than strong arming the disc.

Originally Posted by RoDeO (Post 3644334)

Well, you are wrong. My x step is super slow (less than walking speed) now and Im throwing farther.

Originally Posted by RandyC (Post 3644358)

Maybe you are doing something different.

Originally Posted by RoDeO (Post 3644363)

I'm going slower. Going slower cleaned up some of the timing and made everything smoother.