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azplaya25 10-07-2020 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RoDeO (Post 3640871)
Yeah, it's strong arming. Your shoulders are ahead of your hips in rotation. Strongarming at its finest.


Lol are you serious with this? Guy has a form thread where he’s throwing 450. You can’t strong arm and throw 450. His hips lead everything.

RoDeO 10-07-2020 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SaROCaM (Post 3640907)
The feel ain't real.

If you don't understand how Feldberg's advice fits in, you have an incomplete understanding.



That's the thing about traps...if you don't heed the warnings you won't realize you are in one until it's too late.

So I was out throwing this morning. Pretty cold out, had my jacket on (31 degrees) and settled on just working on gentle smooth throws, trying to keep the disc on a smooth line. I was easily getting them out past 300 feet. Is that the trap you are speaking of?

RoDeO 10-07-2020 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by azplaya25 (Post 3640921)
Lol are you serious with this? Guy has a form thread where he’s throwing 450. You can’t strong arm and throw 450. His hips lead everything.

Maybe so, I'm not seeing that video or evidence, I'm going off what I see in his one leg drill with that particular throw.

SaROCaM 10-07-2020 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RoDeO (Post 3640922)
So I was out throwing this morning. Pretty cold out, had my jacket on (31 degrees) and settled on just working on gentle smooth throws, trying to keep the disc on a smooth line. I was easily getting them out past 300 feet. Is that the trap you are speaking of?

Are you saying you aren't sure whether or not you are in a trap? Not sure what the point of that story is. Throwing past 300 feet while wearing a jacket in 31 degree weather sounds like what can be seen at local dubs on a typical morning in October-April. Lots of people do that. Lots of people who do that also have form issues.

RoDeO 10-07-2020 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SaROCaM (Post 3640931)
Are you saying you aren't sure whether or not you are in a trap? Not sure what the point of that story is. Throwing past 300 feet while wearing a jacket in 31 degree weather sounds like what can be seen at local dubs on a typical morning in October-April. Lots of people do that. Lots of people who do that also have form issues.

So, your answer will always be along the lines of- it's Rodeo throwing, he's knew, he's gonna have all kinds of form issues, plus he just doesnt understand. Gotcha.

SaROCaM 10-07-2020 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RoDeO (Post 3640943)
So, your answer will always be along the lines of- it's Rodeo throwing, he's knew, he's gonna have all kinds of form issues, plus he just doesnt understand. Gotcha.

Don't take it personally. It's not you being new. The thing is, based on what you have shared, you do have form issues and also don't quite understand the mechanics of throwing (and the concepts of power generation that translate from sport to sport.) You are doing some things right but also doing some things wrong, in terms of both form and understanding.

RoDeO 10-07-2020 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SaROCaM (Post 3640955)
Don't take it personally. It's not you being new. The thing is, based on what you have shared, you do have form issues and also don't quite understand the mechanics of throwing (and the concepts of power generation that translate from sport to sport.) You are doing some things right but also doing some things wrong, in terms of both form and understanding.

There's no doubt that I have some form issues. I think everyone has form issues in one degree or another. I tend to think of being refined. How refined is someone? There's both mental and physical refinement- how one sees the mechanics, how it is supposed to work in their mind, and then the physical refinement of translating that into results. I honestly believe that mentally I'm quite refined in how the shot needs to work, where the power comes from, etc. Translating that physically is going to take time to get the smoothness and consistency along with the correct muscle power.

RandyC 10-07-2020 01:42 PM

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azplaya25 10-07-2020 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyC (Post 3641013)


Thanks dude! Perfect. I’ve gone back to throwing a hammer lately and I’m really starting to feel that leveraging of the disc like you are here. At some point I’ll be able to bring the rest of it together, complete with the lat pull and swim move like your doing here. Baby steps

RandyC 10-07-2020 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by azplaya25 (Post 3641016)
Thanks dude! Perfect. I’ve gone back to throwing a hammer lately and I’m really starting to feel that leveraging of the disc like you are here. At some point I’ll be able to bring the rest of it together, complete with the lat pull and swim move like your doing here. Baby steps

That swim move is kinda weird because I am not doing it. My focus there is pretty much just catching the swing with my quads, glutes and not fall down.


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