Wednesday August 17th

Any info on the Paradigm?? It's been approved since May.

not sure if I saw him throwing the splice or mutant BH? seems he was working both of those into his bag last year

Ooh, the P1 is coming. Glad I didn’t invest further in Rainmakers. Can anyone speak to the feel of P1 vs P2? I haven’t handled a P1.

Also the Tilt is coming back.

The original P1 was just a re-stamped beardless Aviar.
It says the new P1 is a little shallow compared to the P2.
Believe it’s the same plastic as the P2s

More interested in how it compares to the Rainmakers.

Still waiting for the FD3s to filter down to retailers.

Hard to get excited about the Tilt in a different plastic…

From pics and videos, the P1 looks pointy compared to the P2. Really wish Discmania would post profile pics of all discs.

I have two white EO FD3 discs. They fly maybe more overstable than the new PDs (also have two for comparison). Definitely on par with recent Innova C-line FD3.

It is quite refreshing to see DM in stock many places.

People say the original P1 is just an Aviar but I don't buy that. It flies less overstable at low speeds in my experience. More neutral for my weak putts haha. If anyone has evidence that it's just an Aviar I would be interested to see it.

It feels pretty similar in the hand to an Aviar or a slightly less deep P2.

Obviously just a typo but such a delicious one. Im just giggling here imagining it

I hope they bring back the whole P-line. . but i was one of the few that liked the original P3 so i guess IF the P3 comes back it will be retooled.

IS there any info on whitch moulds thay will bring back and in what order?

I had an S-line P1 that was penned *A or *AV on the bottom, so it was indeed the same mold

Ok, thanks. I won’t like it then. Don’t care for the Aviar.

The P2 is basically a blunt nosed Aviar. A beadless Aviar-X

Don’t you mean beardless?

My impression is that it was the Classic Aviar in a couple other plastics. I really don't know if a different top is used for the DX Classic but it does fly straighter compared to the DX P&A as krooster described.

The P1 is also straighter than any Classic Aviar I have thrown, but I have only thrown 2 different runs of Classic Aviar. One pretty flat, one more domey from a few years later.

That said, I did try a P1 in hard P-line once, and it was more overstable than D-line. And the Classic Aviar plastic is pretty hard. I could be convinced the the D-line P1 is how a Classic Aviar would fly if it were produced in softer plastic.

Sounds as if this may be a redesigned disc and not the same as the previous Innova made P1.

I saw some team guys have gotten their hands on a RC3. Any hints as to when we will see those?

I hope they retool the Razor Claw just a bit shallower.

Also, can we get Origin in hard base plastic? I want something more understable than NEO or EXO Soft has beaten into. I could go with a Genius, but rather not add another mold.

Discmania: the new FD3 is fantastic, thank you! Also, any hints if the new Cloudbreaker is retool more or less stable? (Why retool to the exact same?) Is the special S-line very different from CB3 plastic?

Numerous reports seem to suggest the Cloudbreaker is less stable than the previous offerings. Should bomb for a lot of people. :clap:

Can’t wait to see more demos of CB1v2.

I was able to compare the new P1 in store. Arguably exact same height as the Rainmaker. Same top shoulder. Virtually same wing height, but very slightly rounded going down toward the wing. Very slightly less angle on the wing of the P1.

The new P1 sounds very much like a Luna.

I'm curious enough to try one when they come out.

love to hear it, also looking forward to the new s-line PDs!

Just dont call it that!! :D

They won’t. Pretty sure Prodigy owns the patent on that “name”.

i sure its completely ridiculous but is a TD or TDx ever a considertion?

The Essence is pretty close to those already, so I wouldn't hold your breath.

I'm sure we'll start seeing more of the original molds as time goes by. For now, I'm sure they're focused on getting some of the really popular ones out like the PD2, CD2, MD4, etc.

I returned a c-line TDx to a guy. I asked him on the phone if I could throw it a few times before meeting him the next day, and he said sure. I remember it was board flat and the rim/wing felt uncomfortable and it flew like a PD, but with less turn. Maybe a one-off bad example, but that guy loved it.

The Essence has more fade than it’s credited in the numbers, but not really a ‘3’ like the TDx. Essence might be more like the CD2, but I’ve never thrown one.

The Method is a really nice mid (that’s not in my bag rn), which might make Discmania wait on an MD4. Agree the PD2 will probably be next since the pros throw DD3s on more knife hyzers.

There was a C-line TDx??

With less "turn" than a PD?

Hmm… maybe it was a DDx… really thought it was TDx tho…

Okay, mystery solved.
DDX sounds much more like the description.
Never seen a C-Line TDX either…

I’d love to know anyone’s thoughts on the new Cloudbreaker now that you’ve had some time to throw them? Any variance in color?

I’m not gonna lie: this new swirly special blend s-line has me super jazzed for a new s-line fd/night strike vibe. Just me?

I can’t find any difference between the CB3 and the new Cloudbreaker, besides the CB3 had more dome. They’re both plenty stable. I bought one new Cloudbreaker in store and have a couple more coming in the mail. Hoping one of those is less stable, or I’ll have to beat one up.

i have the tdx in s line and man its a hyzer flip beast. Found it used so its only got so long left.

I remember an old itb from Gregg Barsby where he was claiming that he picked up his s-td in Sweden. I have been throwing Roadrunners, but I like the anhyzer top as well. Is Jussi having any plans on bringing out any Swedish STDs now that Discmania are producing discs out of Sweden? I'd like some Swedish STDs myself

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Hey, I remember that video!

https://youtu.be/O1h67sWEF6E 10:35 mark

I'm sure Jussi can point you in the direction of where to get a Swedish STD... :gross::gross:

good god this joke wont stop. thanks reddit

Sorry to quote again, but I found an important difference. My two CB3, when thrown on decent amount of anhyzer, will fight out into fade. The new Cloudbreaker will hold the anhyzer line for quite a while and land more flat-to-fade, maybe with late skip. The new C-line DD3 on the same lines will land flat-to-cutroll angle.

Simon says in the promo video that the new full Tilt will be the last Tilt ever produced. Why would you do that? They seem popular, just a very odd business decision. It reminds me of Eric Cartman and his amusement park