You pretty much settled it. I will be selling my Neo tactic and swapping it for a Meta today before my round. Thanks for the reassuring insight!

I didn’t realize the subconscious expectation of a tactic trying to go as far as a zone. Thank you for pointing that out because that was exactly the problem. Adjustment made!


I love this forum.

You are likely correct. I can admit that I succumb to the marketing that the “perfect run” will help me when what I really need is more practice. There’s no easy fix, but I do prefer the special s-line blend to c-line. As per usual, I’m probably overthinking everything, but perhaps that’s what hobbies are for…

Every new run is the ‘perfect’ run. We don’t get consensus on actual great runs until 5 years later when everyone wants the ‘second’ run.

This made me chuckle because it’s so **** true. I guess I have to find a real way to get better at disc golf.

So…mystery boxes!? Hahahaha

Any feedback on the Vapor Essences that are floating around? How are they flying?

I got a couple from the.....Canadian nationals? or something like that, one of the first batches of them. They're my most stable essence but still go pretty far. Straight to fade in the 320'-350' range for me, if I really get on it I can force little turn, but I always can count on it getting back to center or right of the tee (LHBH)
In comparison, my oldest neo essence in the bag is more of a panning turnover all the way to the ground, my semi fresh (been throwing since last September) neo essence gets a decent amount of turn and then works back to near center in line with the tee (also gets 20-40' more distance)
I have a couple Zen's but never fully clicked with them, they're slightly less stable than the Vapor, but they also don't go as far as the Vapor.

Realistically the vapor essence and my NS2 share the same slot in my bag, but as we're moving into fall I've been reaching for the essence more just because it would be cheaper to replace when it gets buried under the leaves.

Accurate. Doombird II was a red headed stepchild and available online for months after it's release.

Stock stamp Flex 1 P2s are on the Europe site with a countdown.

Will we see these stateside?

Boo. P1 & P2 Flex3 s please! I’m waiting to start a new putter cycle when flex3 comes out. There was a tiny run of fkex3 P2, but by the time I realized…I didn’t want the colors.

So...

What is Discmania Stratosphere?

I just came here to post the same **** thing.

Disc reference or new stamp theme? Gotta be something bigger than a disc if they’re going to brand patches, hats, shirts, and even bonnet jackets!

Says ‘Live Show’ so it could be literally anything.

Or it could be a live show

My understanding is the new DD1 (Grace) is called the Stratosphere, and the new plastic is called Horizon (Orbit).

Beat me to it^

They're gonna crib the Grace mold? That would be cool since I haven't seen a Grace in a shop since spring.

Not bad, I guess. I kinda think the Halo/Orbit is going to be very ‘dated’ down the road. Swirls are betta imo. Does your inside info say the Stratosphere is an 11/5/-1/2 ? I bet it is since I just bought a CD3…

If this is the case, they are going over the top with an apparel line for a new disc.

I don’t have any real insider info, just following along with the Facebook groups. The Grace is 11/6/-1/2 so I think it should be in that same ballpark. Perhaps a touch more overstable to make it more Wraith-like, but I doubt it.

It does seem odd, but I’ve seen apparel for specific discs so who knows.

So this is a reinvented DD, not the old anhyzer topped Wraith?

Its going to be a rebranded Flow.

Is that what they’re saying in DM groups somewhere?

No. I just like stirring the pot and making things up.

I’ve never thrown a Flow but supposedly it’s a tick more high speed stable than the Grace?

Flows are sweet, I wouldn’t hate a DM version.

They definitely do make shirts for a lot of the tour series, but this is different. Either this is going to be bigger than we think, or the the most over the top release of a disc..... possibly ever.?.?.?

Problem?

Yawn. I thought any and everything Discmania released was always hyped up as the biggest and best thing ever?

I was wondering the same thing.

Which DG companies market otherwise? Lol!

A bomber jacket, a gear bag, a beanie... all for a new mold??? Seems over the top, even for Discmania.

I noticed this as well. Also seems strange that Discmania has no approved mold called the stratosphere. Maybe that will be the plastic name? Perhaps this mystery box release will be the paradigm in stratosphere plastic?

Its got you talking, so its doing what its supposed to, so far :)

I hope it's all a farce so far and it's just a premium plastic Logic.

Everyone seems to have a halo/orbit/rim color plastic, so maybe they’re trying to break into that market. Unlikely.

Hot take: they’re converting their active line to a new DM line. They’re “launching” something new. It’s a disc line.

I love it. Just don’t screw up the Sensei, mkay? Alas, they’re putting Acive discs inside the Stratosphere box, so … idk.

A new disc line is an interesting idea…

Hmm. Maybe they’re announcing a classic/retro/vintage line manufactured for Discmania by Innova?

When cd2?

2023 we will see more new molds being released. They were focused on "perfecting" the most popular molds (DD3, FD, MD3, PD) this year. I wouldn't be surprised to see CD2 as the first recreated mold in 2023. I know I want to see what they do to it given what they did with the Nordic Phenom!

Imagine the Nordic Phenom with a bit less HSS, and huge glide? They can call it the Crap Dumpster 2 for all I care.