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dehaas 12-06-2021 01:56 PM

Slightly humorous how many first run md1’s popped up for sale on the FB groups after it was announced to be in the mystery box.

seedlings 12-06-2021 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3773119)
cloudbreaker on the 16. unless you meant stock dd3?

Interesting. No mention on their website home page?

Edit: I see it after selecting Dd3 under discs

robdeforge 12-06-2021 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by seedlings (Post 3773157)
Interesting. No mention on their website home page?

Edit: I see it after selecting Dd3 under discs

these days I get most of my discmania news, especially about upcoming releases, from their instagram page

seedlings 12-06-2021 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3773164)
these days I get most of my discmania news, especially about upcoming releases, from their instagram page

Noted. When will be the first shop without a website at all, only Instagram?

robdeforge 12-06-2021 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by seedlings (Post 3773170)
Noted. When will be the first shop without a website at all, only Instagram?

oh god.... hopefully nobody ever, but probably prodigy ;)

Discmania_Support 12-07-2021 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jolt (Post 3772962)
Will the new MD1 ever be à stock disc or was this just a “test”? How close to a mako 3 is it?

But stock and Dscmania is hard to say in the same sentence…. Will they ever make stock disc or continue make smal runs the can sell out in minutes?

The MD1 will definitely be a stock release in early 2021. Europe just recently restocked on P2 and MD3, it looks like the MD3 may be sold out there. However, all stock discs of most things will not really run out too often in 2022. We believe your opinion is going to change :)

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Originally Posted by Emoney (Post 3773140)
The big question for collectors will be...will this be the only release of the CB3 OR will they be produced in 2022 as well?

Cloud Breaker will be made again as another release later on but the CB3 will have just this one release.

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3773164)
these days I get most of my discmania news, especially about upcoming releases, from their instagram page

The "What's Next" page is generally a great place to check for new information, often times weeks in advance to an upcoming release.

https://www.discmania.net/pages/next

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Originally Posted by BillFleming (Post 3773142)
The question is "will the MD1 sell"? I asked a local disc store if they had them in, they let me know it was a mystery box only offering...and that if the MD1 was made available for stores they wouldn't carry it. When the MD1 was available, the store lost lots of money on them as they don't sell.

I have a feeling that people will get the mystery box and put the MD1 up for sale as being a unique/rare disc with hopes to get enough money to pay off the mystery box.

We shall see! This is fortunately not the MD1 of the past so it's very possible that they aren't aware this is something entirely different than they've carried before. Our guess is that if Simon likes it, their sales probably will too.

DiscT 12-07-2021 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Discmania_Support (Post 3773446)
The MD1 will definitely be a stock release in early 2021. Europe just recently restocked on P2 and MD3, it looks like the MD3 may be sold out there. However, all stock discs of most things will not really run out too often in 2022. We believe your opinion is going to change :)



Cloud Breaker will be made again as another release later on but the CB3 will have just this one release.



The "What's Next" page is generally a great place to check for new information, often times weeks in advance to an upcoming release.

https://www.discmania.net/pages/next



We shall see! This is fortunately not the MD1 of the past so it's very possible that they aren't aware this is something entirely different than they've carried before. Our guess is that if Simon likes it, their sales probably will too.



What do P2 variations look like for the future? When can we expect flex 1 and 3, specialty stamps, C-line for throwing putters, possibly even glow plastic and the return of the Imperial Eagle???

Discmania_Support 12-08-2021 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DiscT (Post 3773534)
What do P2 variations look like for the future? When can we expect flex 1 and 3, specialty stamps, C-line for throwing putters, possibly even glow plastic and the return of the Imperial Eagle???

No official timeline on any of those yet but you'll receive some good news soon on at least one of them. Sorry that's not super helpful.

DiscT 12-09-2021 10:27 AM

So why do you Discmaniacs think Simon didn’t get a signature disc this season? Obviously he was injured, missed half of the tour, and didn’t perform very well; but on the other hand, he’s still being used as a Discmania poster child. Especially with the relaunch of the P2 and it’s [semi]consistent production, why wouldn’t DM drop a Sky God? Every primary DM player on tour got a signature disc (Perkins, Klein, Montgomery, and even Eagle X2). Why skip over the player who is featured in every single release video?? Curious your thoughts…

Agarner14 12-09-2021 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DiscT (Post 3773937)
So why do you Discmaniacs think Simon didn’t get a signature disc this season? Obviously he was injured, missed half of the tour, and didn’t perform very well; but on the other hand, he’s still being used as a Discmania poster child. Especially with the relaunch of the P2 and it’s [semi]consistent production, why wouldn’t DM drop a Sky God? Every primary DM player on tour got a signature disc (Perkins, Klein, Montgomery, and even Eagle X2). Why skip over the player who is featured in every single release video?? Curious your thoughts…

To be fair, Simon has probably had one of the more sought-after releases of the year, the Tilt. I think DM is still in the early stages of playing catch-up with production and special releases. All things considered, it has actually been a pretty epic fall, at least in my opinion - the MD3, Meta Tilt, RazorClaw 2, Zen, Midnight Prowl, etc all have been pretty quality releases. We have the Cloud Breaker 3 coming next week, I think it is very likely that we will see a Simon release of some kind over the coming month or two. I think DM is very deliberate with the timing of their releases and want to sprinkle it out through the winter/spring leading into next season.

Those are just my thoughts.

DiscT 12-09-2021 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Agarner14 (Post 3773941)
To be fair, Simon has probably had one of the more sought-after releases of the year, the Tilt. I think DM is still in the early stages of playing catch-up with production and special releases. All things considered, it has actually been a pretty epic fall, at least in my opinion - the MD3, Meta Tilt, RazorClaw 2, Zen, Midnight Prowl, etc all have been pretty quality releases. We have the Cloud Breaker 3 coming next week, I think it is very likely that we will see a Simon release of some kind over the coming month or two. I think DM is very deliberate with the timing of their releases and want to sprinkle it out through the winter/spring leading into next season.

Those are just my thoughts.

Was the Meta Tilt considered a Simon Signature? If so I missed that.

DiscT 12-09-2021 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DiscT (Post 3773952)
Was the Meta Tilt considered a Simon Signature? If so I missed that.

Also, to clarify, I’m not critiquing DM releases. Not only did they JUST start in-house production, they also have one of the highest demands in the industry. I agree they are doing a great job. I was just wondering why they weren’t taking advantage of having Simon in the lineup more, especially since they love marketing so much

Discmania_Support 12-09-2021 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DiscT (Post 3773952)
Was the Meta Tilt considered a Simon Signature? If so I missed that.

Good question. It is actually held in even higher regard with a step above it, the Creator Series. These will encompass Signature Series discs at times and are products that differ slightly from the original production model. 2022 will definitely bring more consistent releases and you can bet there will be even more Simon ones :). Lots of moving parts in a logistically upside down world at the moment so we just had to roll with the punches lately.

Discmania_Support 12-09-2021 11:50 AM

To add to the Creator Series topic, these molds can even be something of its own entirely. There are no rules with those but the summary of it is it is unique to other things and involves the design with the player it represents.

Jolt 12-10-2021 04:07 AM

If the Md1 will be a stock run with 5 6 0 0 what will that mean for the MD?
I think Discmania have 9 Midrange molds and not a single one is really US

Sasme with putters, 10 molds and no US discs.

B The V 12-13-2021 08:43 AM

If Discmania could make the Logic in Meta or any premium plastic it would be amazing. And for anyone that hasn't thrown a Logic you should try one out. Excellent throwing putter, straight with a little more glide than I expected. It replaced my baseline Guardian Lion (Sensei).

fishballer06 12-13-2021 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jolt (Post 3774190)
I think Discmania have 9 Midrange molds and not a single one is really US

Same with putters, 10 molds and no US discs.

You must be new to Discmania, huh?

ff33 12-13-2021 02:58 PM

what is the difference between vapor plastic enigma from a couple years ago and vapor plastic razor claw 2's - they dont feel anything alike. asked on reddit and know one knows either

seedlings 12-13-2021 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ff33 (Post 3774846)
what is the difference between vapor plastic enigma from a couple years ago and vapor plastic razor claw 2's - they dont feel anything alike. asked on reddit and know one knows either

DM is migrating production from Lat64 down the hallway to their own machines. Probably plastic changes.

DiscT 12-13-2021 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by seedlings (Post 3774864)
DM is migrating production from Lat64 down the hallway to their own machines. Probably plastic changes.

“Down the hallway” hahaha

DiscT 12-13-2021 06:08 PM

Anyone score a mystery box? Curious your thoughts here compared with the reviews on their website. How has it compared to years past?

Also, anyone take the DM survey? The last question is interesting, and I’d like to talk about it here: if you could say something to Discmania, what would it be?!

ray1970 12-13-2021 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by seedlings (Post 3774864)
Probably plastic changes.


Adding the parmesan and oregano to the Swedish plastic to make that Italian blend?

midrangemachine 12-13-2021 10:58 PM

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Can someone please help me identify this discmania disc it has no tooling or patent numbers on the back of the disc. I assume it's a champ FD but I'm not positive

ff33 12-14-2021 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by seedlings (Post 3774864)
DM is migrating production from Lat64 down the hallway to their own machines. Probably plastic changes.

JFC, I just wondered, im sure the plastic changes but what was closest lat plastic ? its not neo, and i cant think of anything else.... if feels to me like its between halo and star, but clearly its not innova

klodkrawler05 12-14-2021 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DiscT (Post 3774907)
Anyone score a mystery box? Curious your thoughts here compared with the reviews on their website. How has it compared to years past?

I was happy with mine, but then I wasn't expecting/hoping to get a triple misprint eagle mclizzote glow swirl whatever that I could sell to cover the whole cost of my box.

I think this was the 3rd year I've done a mystery box and it was the first time more of the discs have been stuff I'd throw than not. 8/9 of my discs were speed 9 or slower, and I got a handful of molds I've never tried before which to me is the great fun of a mystery box.

DiscT 12-14-2021 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by klodkrawler05 (Post 3775006)
I was happy with mine, but then I wasn't expecting/hoping to get a triple misprint eagle mclizzote glow swirl whatever that I could sell to cover the whole cost of my box.

I think this was the 3rd year I've done a mystery box and it was the first time more of the discs have been stuff I'd throw than not. 8/9 of my discs were speed 9 or slower, and I got a handful of molds I've never tried before which to me is the great fun of a mystery box.


Great point and a valued perspective. I laughed out at your “triple misprint mclizzotte” comment 😂🤣Thanks!

@CD- 12-14-2021 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by midrangemachine (Post 3774968)
Can someone please help me identify this discmania disc it has no tooling or patent numbers on the back of the disc. I assume it's a champ FD but I'm not positive

Active line Premium Rockstar or Magician? All other DM lines have tooling present (Innova Originals, Evo Line, & now DM manufactured Originals)
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Originally Posted by ff33 (Post 3774988)
JFC, I just wondered, im sure the plastic changes but what was closest lat plastic ? its not neo, and i cant think of anything else.... if feels to me like its between halo and star, but clearly its not innova

Neo has been most similar to Hybrid plastic from Lat64/DD. Sort of blending Opto line/Lucid & Gold line/Fuzion.
Vapor = Gold Line burst
Meta = Opto Chameleon
maybe signature series have gotten the X treatment? RC2 ~ Gold line-X burst, Meta Tilt/Midnight Prowl ~ Opto Chameleon-X?
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Originally Posted by klodkrawler05 (Post 3775006)
I was happy with mine, but then I wasn't expecting/hoping to get a triple misprint eagle mclizzote glow swirl whatever that I could sell to cover the whole cost of my box.

I think this was the 3rd year I've done a mystery box and it was the first time more of the discs have been stuff I'd throw than not. 8/9 of my discs were speed 9 or slower, and I got a handful of molds I've never tried before which to me is the great fun of a mystery box.

Only box I managed to get a few years ago (Dec '17 w/ the Color Glow FD as the mystery disc) was 3x PD2 and a DD2 for half the box. I could still probably get the mystery box full cost back (w/ inflation!) at this point since all the discs were Innova manufactured (even with the use & ink from using them over the past 4 years).

seedlings 12-14-2021 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ff33 (Post 3774988)
JFC, I just wondered, im sure the plastic changes but what was closest lat plastic ? its not neo, and i cant think of anything else.... if feels to me like its between halo and star, but clearly its not innova

Sounds like the same special blend plastic the new cloud breaker is supposed to be. S-line with some C-line mixed in. The one Eagle parked a 700’ par 4.


robdeforge 12-14-2021 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by klodkrawler05 (Post 3775006)
I was happy with mine, but then I wasn't expecting/hoping to get a triple misprint eagle mclizzote glow swirl whatever that I could sell to cover the whole cost of my box.

I think this was the 3rd year I've done a mystery box and it was the first time more of the discs have been stuff I'd throw than not. 8/9 of my discs were speed 9 or slower, and I got a handful of molds I've never tried before which to me is the great fun of a mystery box.

funny how to you this is a plus, whereas to other players it might be a negative. not knocking you at all! I've just seen a fair number of complaints this year about how they don't throw this or that from a mystery box

DiscT 12-14-2021 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3775088)
funny how to you this is a plus, whereas to other players it might be a negative. not knocking you at all! I've just seen a fair number of complaints this year about how they don't throw this or that from a mystery box

Agreed. A lot of reviews indicate how upset people were that there weren’t more “special” gems, but I don’t have a reference point to how common that actually is. Jussi said it was their best box ever, but that seems hard to believe. I totally get that they’re just starting off with their new in-house production, but I wonder why they didn’t save that kind of hype for when they had the firepower to back it up. But then again…it’s Discmania!

biscoe 12-14-2021 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3775088)
funny how to you this is a plus, whereas to other players it might be a negative. not knocking you at all! I've just seen a fair number of complaints this year about how they don't throw this or that from a mystery box

If you are going to be picky why would you order one to begin with? (I admittedly don't get the mystery box thing at all.)

BillFleming 12-14-2021 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by biscoe (Post 3775102)
If you are going to be picky why would you order one to begin with? (I admittedly don't get the mystery box thing at all.)

I get the mystery box idea....you get discs that you might not have tried before. I was in a Disc Swap and got a disc I would never have considered buying or trying....it's in my bag now.

But it does seem like a large number of people are hoping for, and after, the rare disc that they can immediately sell to pay off the mystery box. Then they get disappointed when there isn't that valuable disc in the box. Look at the box that came out with the original Tilt....sold out quickly and just as quickly the Tilts were online for sale....and some of the posts said - I will ship it as soon as it arrives.

In a similar line, I heard from the TD of ltheLas Vegas Challenge that he had a huge number of volunteers because he was giving them a Nate Sexton Firebird. Then he made the mistake of giving the disc when they checked in the first day..bunch of volunteers got their disc and left to never show up again....and the discs were up online immediately.

ray1970 12-14-2021 02:09 PM

Generally, the mystery boxes will include one special disc that isn’t a mystery (Tilt, Razor Claw 1, etc.) and the rest is always a crap shoot.

I used to buy the boxes that came out around the holidays usually knowing I wanted the known disc. The rest I would typically give away as Christmas gifts to my disc golf buddies unless there was something really cool or that I actually bagged.

I skipped ordering the DM box this year because I didn’t want the MD1 and I feared the rest of the box would be a bunch of the active line stuff that nobody throws.

klodkrawler05 12-14-2021 02:55 PM

While there weren't 3 figure discs in every box I thought this years boxes seemed to do a better job of including a little something for everyone. Amongst my friend group and the boxes I saw online seemed like everyone got at least 2-3 molds from the originals line, 2-3 discs from the evolution line and 2-3 discs from the active line.

Just amongst the guys I play league with there were DD3/DDX/p3/p3x/md4/cd2/p2 and of course md1's so that made for some fun trading around.
The evolution/active lines seemed to be the same in every box save for tactic vs method but there was still a pretty big variety of color/stamps as well. The genius has actually been pretty fun to throw in the "faster paradox" slot and the rockstar was significantly more stable than it's numbers suggest so that's been interesting also.

So I guess if you ignore the color/schemes realistically everyone got 6 of the same discs as everyone else, and then 3 discs were up in the air what you got. I'm not sure if that's considered good or bad.

DiscT 12-15-2021 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Discmania_Support (Post 3773961)
To add to the Creator Series topic, these molds can even be something of its own entirely. There are no rules with those but the summary of it is it is unique to other things and involves the design with the player it represents.


On the topic of Signature Releases, what ever happened to this:

“Not long following the C-Line MD3, we have a real treat lined up for you: The Eagle McMahon Iron Samurai 3, which will be a Color Glow C-Line MD3. Release is expected in the heart of glow season, some time this November-December.”

Should we expect this to drop on Christmas 🤔😏?

@CD- 12-15-2021 08:37 PM

They dropped the Proto CB DD3 in the December Black Mystery box I think

DiscT 12-16-2021 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by @CD- (Post 3775427)
They dropped the Proto CB DD3 in the December Black Mystery box I think

Are you thinking there will be another before the end of the year? They’ve crammed so much into the end of this year I’d be surprised if they have one more big drop planned in the next two weeks.

seedlings 12-16-2021 12:02 AM

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Discmania, may I have a brief word with the stamp-color-disc-color coordinator?

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forum...1&d=1639627282

robdeforge 12-16-2021 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Discmania_Support (Post 3773961)
To add to the Creator Series topic, these molds can even be something of its own entirely. There are no rules with those but the summary of it is it is unique to other things and involves the design with the player it represents.

off topic from disc related questions, but could you or somebody at Discmania please tell Simon to stop filming while driving?

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CW6dWEj...dium=copy_link

Agarner14 12-16-2021 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by biscoe (Post 3775102)
If you are going to be picky why would you order one to begin with? (I admittedly don't get the mystery box thing at all.)

I ordered my first DM mystery box this year. I think there are a few attractors to be honest. First, there is always the chance of something unexpected (even if it is relatively low) which adds to the excitement. Second, at the 100$ cost all I need to financially justify it is by finding 3 discs to throw or add into the bag. With 8 mystery discs and the MD1 this really just means 2 discs needed to make up for the cost of the box and everything else is extra.


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