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Flick Maniac 05-05-2014 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DinosaurThunder (Post 2445951)
Can you share the different flight characteristics of all three FD runs?

I am gonna go ahead and answer this one, since I got some pretty thorough info from the DM guys sometime back when enquiring about the same thing:

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1st Run
Least stable of the three. Substantially glidey thanks to somewhat large dome. Also the slowest of the three, offering very midrange-like controllability. Most sensitive to power, but thanks to great glide can be a very long disc. Popular among people as the next step from D/S-FD and also pretty comparable to Champion Leopard, only a touch more stable and a bit more glidey.

2nd Run
Most stable of the three. Handles power the best of the three. Has a great forward-penetrating glide. Provides very straight lines for players that can reach 80m and up with it. Works as a more stable than truly straight driver for those who throw under 80m. Flattest of the three. Features extremely durable plastic material that has been lightened by adding blizzard bubbles. Could be described as a straighter and a touch longer TeeBird.

3rd Run (Jolly Launcher)
Stability sits between the 1st and the 2nd, but leans a touch more towards the 2nd. Dome-wise sits also between 1st & 2nd. Plastic is grippier and in many cases pretty clear. Also comparable to TeeBird, but this time with maybe a touch more turn and a more neutral finish. Very nice, effortless glide. This has lately been the popular pick.

This breakdown has been written by a player that reaches 100-110m with fairway drivers as range may affect the perception of flight characteristics. Based on field testing and reviews from forums etc.
Rarintal, please take it from here if there is something to add.

JTacoma03 05-05-2014 06:39 PM

The CD is the most under-appreciated discmania disc. Just wanted to throw that out there. S-line CD's are the most accurate speed 10 driver I've ever thrown.

Rol6566 05-05-2014 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTacoma03 (Post 2446653)
The CD is the most under-appreciated discmania disc. Just wanted to throw that out there. S-line CD's are the most accurate speed 10 driver I've ever thrown.

truth! I used to throw the FR CD. I havent thrown the production model, just the First Runs. Ive been kicking around the idea of putting them back in the bag

blammo 05-05-2014 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTacoma03 (Post 2446653)
The CD is the most under-appreciated discmania disc. Just wanted to throw that out there. S-line CD's are the most accurate speed 10 driver I've ever thrown.

If they bring these out in G line I might make it my primary driver and drop Escapes. The PD is awesome, but a little too much for my ability as an everyday distance driver. A flat CD is really, really nice.

The Birdie Beast 05-05-2014 06:53 PM

For me my champ pig works great!

Rol6566 05-05-2014 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Birdie Beast (Post 2446665)
For me my champ pig works great!

???? Wrong thread?

DirtyMeathook 05-05-2014 11:06 PM

How similar are FD2s to the Innova T3s

DanJon 05-06-2014 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTacoma03 (Post 2446653)
The CD is the most under-appreciated discmania disc. Just wanted to throw that out there. S-line CD's are the most accurate speed 10 driver I've ever thrown.


Seeing as how its pretty much a Viking, its no wonder its also under-appreciated.

People just don't know.

rarintal 05-06-2014 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by blammo (Post 2445715)
Thanks for sharing what's in your bag.

Any chance there will be lighter first run G* FDs or lighter first run C-line FD2s added to the store inventory in the near future? I like fairways under 170g but I am so excited to try these new ones I will buy heavier if I have no other choice.

At the moment the G-LINE FD's are only in max weights and we will work on getting more FD2's out in lighter weights

Quote:

Originally Posted by rallyguy (Post 2445778)
And any chance at lighter Simon FD's or McBeth P2's?

We will take this into consideration if we run another batch. Thanks for the insight

Quote:

Originally Posted by maskedavenger (Post 2445919)
What, you dont bag any PDs?? For shame! :D Thats a big jump from FD2 to PD2 and DD2... but I have seen weirder combos work. Its about how you use what you have.

It is a big jump but, I can get a FD/FD2 just as far as the PD with more accuracy. And if I really need something overstable I use a Fresh C-LINE PD2. People have described them as "destroyer of worlds" they are pretty versatile as seriously overstable/ Wind / Forehand disc. It's a little unorthodox, but it works for me.

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Originally Posted by clard (Post 2446016)
Is there a difference in flight characteristics, feel, or shape between the regular run C MD3s and the European Open glow C MD3s? Thanks for all the great info; it makes such a huge difference to have a place to ask these questions and get good info.

The regular run C-LINE MD3's are very flat, they are very long as well... The glow MD3's look exactly the same but they are glow, and glow discs for the most part are always more overstable. if you are looking for overstable ones try to find ones with a dome. The prototype Simon and myself were throwing had a big dome and was most certainly a meat hook.

Quote:

Originally Posted by maskedavenger (Post 2446101)
I am gonna go ahead and answer this one, since I got some pretty thorough info from the DM guys sometime back when enquiring about the same thing:

Quote:
1st Run
Least stable of the three. Substantially glidey thanks to somewhat large dome. Also the slowest of the three, offering very midrange-like controllability. Most sensitive to power, but thanks to great glide can be a very long disc. Popular among people as the next step from D/S-FD and also pretty comparable to Champion Leopard, only a touch more stable and a bit more glidey.

2nd Run
Most stable of the three. Handles power the best of the three. Has a great forward-penetrating glide. Provides very straight lines for players that can reach 80m and up with it. Works as a more stable than truly straight driver for those who throw under 80m. Flattest of the three. Features extremely durable plastic material that has been lightened by adding blizzard bubbles. Could be described as a straighter and a touch longer TeeBird.

3rd Run (Jolly Launcher)
Stability sits between the 1st and the 2nd, but leans a touch more towards the 2nd. Dome-wise sits also between 1st & 2nd. Plastic is grippier and in many cases pretty clear. Also comparable to TeeBird, but this time with maybe a touch more turn and a more neutral finish. Very nice, effortless glide. This has lately been the popular pick.

This breakdown has been written by a player that reaches 100-110m with fairway drivers as range may affect the perception of flight characteristics. Based on field testing and reviews from forums etc.

Rarintal, please take it from here if there is something to add.

That's pretty much right on. The only other note is that in the 3rd run there are 2 varations. one with a bit of pearl in the rim and feels more stiff is the more overstable of the two, and the really clear looking rim is the straighter one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTacoma03 (Post 2446653)
The CD is the most under-appreciated discmania disc. Just wanted to throw that out there. S-line CD's are the most accurate speed 10 driver I've ever thrown.

This is true. Very fun disc to throw. Did you find it very straight with a predictable fade?

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Originally Posted by DirtyMeathook (Post 2446918)
How similar are FD2s to the Innova T3s

I am not sure how they compare as they are relatively new correct? We have done side by side comparisons with the Brinster Teebirds. The Brinster birds are a more overstable version of the TeeBird. They flew very close to the same, Except the TeeBird likes to glide to it's finish and the FD2 more falls out of the sky. The FD2 also feels a touch slower, which has seemed to give a lot of people more accuracy.

I do have a report on the wear of these as well. My two that i use are starting to straighten out, not quite like a TeeBird but somewhere in between the Fresh FD2 and Brinster TeeBird. It seems pretty obvious, but I figured you guys would want to know.


Any other questions out there!?

JTacoma03 05-06-2014 04:50 AM

My CD's don't fade, they finish on the angle thrown. Between adding the FD's and CD's to the bag I've gained lots of accuracy within distance brackets that I've never had before.

"Straight with predictable fade" sounds exactly like those FD2's you sold me on though ;)

Cyoda44 05-06-2014 12:07 PM

Let's talk gremlins.... This mold is one of my all time favorites. I currently only throw the old Innova proline ones. The Discmania production discs are lacking the stability of the old plastic.

My question is... When can we expect to see a production run in a champion plastic? Or has the possibility even been discussed?

Flick Maniac 05-06-2014 12:38 PM

I have a beat S-CD that used to be so money but looks to me like its getting a bit too beat. I still have a place for it though.

A lot of people shun CDs for no reason, and think they are too flippy. Well yeah might be if you have a huge arm and really mash into them. Control shots is where they execute.

DinosaurThunder 05-06-2014 03:29 PM

If you had to play a one disc round, what disc would you choose?

Will we see a Jussi designed course in the states anytime soon?

What is your go to "skip shot" disc?

and

Are there future plans for more US Discmania sponsored events?

mubhcaeb78 05-06-2014 04:16 PM

Is my 1st run Greater Midrange (not gremlin stamped) legal in US tournaments?
There was discussion about the name change elsewhere.

Rol6566 05-06-2014 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mubhcaeb78 (Post 2447669)
Is my 1st run Greater Midrange (not gremlin stamped) legal in US tournaments?
There was discussion about the name change elsewhere.

I can't see why you wouldnt be allowed to

onemilemore 05-06-2014 05:50 PM

Curious if Discmania will come out with:

a) A beaded putter
b) An understable mid
c) P-Line FDs in regular weights

Big thanks to rarintal for the great feedback and service!

Jozzz 05-06-2014 06:46 PM

I vaguely remember Jussi saying they would retool the MD1 to be more of an understable flyer.

rarintal 05-07-2014 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTacoma03 (Post 2447186)
My CD's don't fade, they finish on the angle thrown. Between adding the FD's and CD's to the bag I've gained lots of accuracy within distance brackets that I've never had before.

"Straight with predictable fade" sounds exactly like those FD2's you sold me on though ;)

By predictable i meant it fades but not, excessively like the PD2. did you get your FD2's yet?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyoda44 (Post 2447410)
Let's talk gremlins.... This mold is one of my all time favorites. I currently only throw the old Innova proline ones. The Discmania production discs are lacking the stability of the old plastic.

My question is... When can we expect to see a production run in a champion plastic? Or has the possibility even been discussed?

We do not have a plan for C-LINE GM's at the moment. We will most definitely let you all know if something changes!

Quote:

Originally Posted by maskedavenger (Post 2447447)
I have a beat S-CD that used to be so money but looks to me like its getting a bit too beat. I still have a place for it though.

A lot of people shun CDs for no reason, and think they are too flippy. Well yeah might be if you have a huge arm and really mash into them. Control shots is where they execute.

That's where the name CD comes from (Control Driver). I found these surprising fun to throw this disc. I do see the comparison to a longer FD now that it's mentioned.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DinosaurThunder (Post 2447624)
If you had to play a one disc round, what disc would you choose?

Will we see a Jussi designed course in the states anytime soon?

What is your go to "skip shot" disc?

and

Are there future plans for more US Discmania sponsored events?

If I were going to play a 1 Disc round it would be a G-LINE P2.

DiscGolfPark employs approximately 15 professional course designers. Discmania's Country Manager Erno Vayrynen and Avery Jenkins are designers that are now in the US. Erno has designed closed to 100 courses and Avery is Avery :). Jussi leads the course designer group and we constantly develop the concept together. Jussi is the owner of a rapidly growing global business which means that he has his hands full with directing the business. When Jussi shows up to design a course, it is usually for a Major Event. We are bringing DiscGolfPark to the US in 2015.

My "skip shot" disc is the PD2 or MD3. The PD2 skips a long ways, the MD3 if i'm trying not to overthrow it the hole after it skips.

We don't have dates set yet but, Discmania will for sure sponsor events in the future.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mubhcaeb78 (Post 2447669)
Is my 1st run Greater Midrange (not gremlin stamped) legal in US tournaments?
There was discussion about the name change elsewhere.

Your disc is legal. We would not put our name on a disc if it was not legal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by onemilemore (Post 2447765)
Curious if Discmania will come out with:

a) A beaded putter
b) An understable mid
c) P-Line FDs in regular weights

Big thanks to rarintal for the great feedback and service!

I am unsure of the answer here. I will seek some insight! please ask again if i forget to get back to you guys!

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Originally Posted by Jozzz (Post 2447818)
I vaguely remember Jussi saying they would retool the MD1 to be more of an understable flyer.

Where did you see this if you don't mind me asking?

Jozzz 05-07-2014 08:30 AM

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@eemeli_vastamki @CaineAsourasRex @DiscmaniaDiscs You´re right. We will retool MD1 in the future to make a difference.

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DinosaurThunder 05-07-2014 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rarintal (Post 2448197)


DiscGolfPark employs approximately 15 professional course designers. Discmania's Country Manager Erno Vayrynen and Avery Jenkins are designers that are now in the US. Erno has designed closed to 100 courses and Avery is Avery :). Jussi leads the course designer group and we constantly develop the concept together. Jussi is the owner of a rapidly growing global business which means that he has his hands full with directing the business. When Jussi shows up to design a course, it is usually for a Major Event. We are bringing DiscGolfPark to the US in 2015.

This was very informative to understand the structure of the DiscGolfPark team and the role Discmania plays within it. Can't wait to see what location is chosen first for the flagship US DiscGolfPark.

mubhcaeb78 05-07-2014 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rarintal (Post 2448197)
Your disc is legal. We would not put our name on a disc if it was not legal.

Then what do I tell a TD that references http://www.pdga.com/files/PDGA_appro...scs_041314.pdf on their smartphone? It does not have an entry for discmania GM (greater midrange or gremlin) but does have the innova gremlin (which is out of print, transitioned to discmania?)

(the reference that made me ask the question http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums...p/t-13518.html)

StingHP 05-07-2014 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mubhcaeb78 (Post 2448338)
Then what do I tell a TD that references http://www.pdga.com/files/PDGA_appro...scs_041314.pdf on their smartphone? It does not have an entry for discmania GM (greater midrange or gremlin) but does have the innova gremlin (which is out of print, transitioned to discmania?)

(the reference that made me ask the question http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums...p/t-13518.html)

Your grasping at straws on this one. The disc is still approved. Most TDs that I know of or players honestly will not go through a bag. Most likely a player will ask what you threw and you can tell them without worry.

JTacoma03 05-07-2014 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rarintal (Post 2448197)
By predictable i meant it fades but not, excessively like the PD2. did you get your FD2's yet?

I cuddle with them every night.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DinosaurThunder (Post 2448239)
This was very informative to understand the structure of the DiscGolfPark team and the role Discmania plays within it. Can't wait to see what location is chosen first for the flagship US DiscGolfPark.

Me too. It'll probably be somewhere awesome.

titovanburen 05-07-2014 04:44 PM

Hey Discmania...do you happen to know who currently owns the company Grip Equipment?

thanks

Jozzz 05-07-2014 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by titovanburen (Post 2448800)
Hey Discmania...do you happen to know who currently owns the company Grip Equipment?

thanks

Huh?

JTacoma03 05-07-2014 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jozzz (Post 2448867)
Huh?

He's referring to the recent restructuring of the company. Not sure why he doesn't just ask them...

TrippinBill 05-07-2014 07:30 PM

Was it asked yet when the FD2 would hit retailers?

rallyguy 05-09-2014 01:02 PM

Ryan, how would you compare the flight and driving ability of the G P2 vs the S P2? I want to get one, but I'm not sure about the firmness of the G line for driving duties

onemilemore 05-09-2014 01:03 PM

Just want to give a big thanks to Ryan for giving me the heads up on the lighter G-FDs being in stock at the store. He knows how to get my money. :thmbup:

mm1315 05-09-2014 02:24 PM

Just wondering if you are going to transition into production a Gstar style plastic and if there is a date for it? Would love to see some DD, DD2 and Gremlins in that style plastic.

DinosaurThunder 05-09-2014 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rallyguy (Post 2450494)
Ryan, how would you compare the flight and driving ability of the G P2 vs the S P2? I want to get one, but I'm not sure about the firmness of the G line for driving duties

He responded to a similar question about the G-line P2's when asked about driving.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rarintal (Post 2445277)
The G-LINE P2 is a touch less overstable than the S-LINE. We only saw a slight difference in full power drives with it. otherwise it follows the S-LINE's flight path very closely.


rallyguy 05-09-2014 08:30 PM

Perfect, that's the info I was hoping to learn...thanks!
:D

DiscinFiend 05-09-2014 08:34 PM

I haven't read the whole thread so I apologize if this was already asked. How are the newest runs of the MD3? I bought a few awhile back & they didn't seem as over stable as they should of been. Are the newer ones more beefy?

Edit
Are there any plans to put C-Line P2s in regular production?

New013 05-09-2014 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscinFiend (Post 2450915)
I haven't read the whole thread so I apologize if this was already asked. How are the newest runs of the MD3? I bought a few awhile back & they didn't seem as over stable as they should of been. Are the newer ones more beefy?

It was asked if newer runs would be made more beefy and the answer was yes the plan is to make the MD3 more overstable than the first run.

We also asked if the MD1 would be turned in to a more understable type disc to compliment the other two and we're still waiting on that.

Jozzz 05-09-2014 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New013 (Post 2450953)
It was asked if newer runs would be made more beefy and the answer was yes the plan is to make the MD3 more overstable than the first run.

We also asked if the MD1 would be turned in to a more understable type disc to compliment the other two and we're still waiting on that.

Jussi answered the MD1 question last March on twitter. He said that the MD1 would be retooled to be more understable.

New013 05-09-2014 09:39 PM

From what I remember from that he said they would probably do that not that it was certain

Jozzz 05-09-2014 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New013 (Post 2450958)
From what I remember from that he said they would probably do that not that it was certain

Yeah. I thought the question was just if it was planned or not.

rarintal 05-10-2014 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mubhcaeb78 (Post 2448338)
Then what do I tell a TD that references http://www.pdga.com/files/PDGA_appro...scs_041314.pdf on their smartphone? It does not have an entry for discmania GM (greater midrange or gremlin) but does have the innova gremlin (which is out of print, transitioned to discmania?)

(the reference that made me ask the question http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums...p/t-13518.html)

I can look into this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by titovanburen (Post 2448800)
Hey Discmania...do you happen to know who currently owns the company Grip Equipment?

thanks

I'm sorry I do not know the answer to this quesiton

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrippinBill (Post 2448923)
Was it asked yet when the FD2 would hit retailers?

We are working diligently on getting you guys our discs as fast as possible!

Quote:

Originally Posted by rallyguy (Post 2450494)
Ryan, how would you compare the flight and driving ability of the G P2 vs the S P2? I want to get one, but I'm not sure about the firmness of the G line for driving duties

It's my favorite driving putter. it's just a touch less overstable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by onemilemore (Post 2450495)
Just want to give a big thanks to Ryan for giving me the heads up on the lighter G-FDs being in stock at the store. He knows how to get my money. :thmbup:

No problem! we did some digging and found some for you! There is also lightweight FD2's restocked. Insider information to you guys :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mm1315 (Post 2450596)
Just wondering if you are going to transition into production a Gstar style plastic and if there is a date for it? Would love to see some DD, DD2 and Gremlins in that style plastic.

We plan on doing more G-LINE discs this summer. We will keep this in mind when making production plans.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DinosaurThunder (Post 2450637)
He responded to a similar question about the G-line P2's when asked about driving.

thanks :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscinFiend (Post 2450915)
I haven't read the whole thread so I apologize if this was already asked. How are the newest runs of the MD3? I bought a few awhile back & they didn't seem as over stable as they should of been. Are the newer ones more beefy?

Edit
Are there any plans to put C-Line P2s in regular production?

Yes we are planning to make the MD3 more overstable. There is not a production plan for the C-LINE P2's at the moment. The S-LINE is pretty overstable!

Quote:

Originally Posted by New013 (Post 2450953)
It was asked if newer runs would be made more beefy and the answer was yes the plan is to make the MD3 more overstable than the first run.

We also asked if the MD1 would be turned in to a more understable type disc to compliment the other two and we're still waiting on that.

Just got word back. There is plans to make to re-work the md1.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jozzz (Post 2450956)
Jussi answered the MD1 question last March on twitter. He said that the MD1 would be retooled to be more understable.

Correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jozzz (Post 2450968)
Yeah. I thought the question was just if it was planned or not.

It is planned!

Quote:

Originally Posted by New013 (Post 2450958)
From what I remember from that he said they would probably do that not that it was certain

:)

thanks for the questions guys! What other questions are out there floating around?

onemilemore 05-10-2014 02:28 AM

What did you hook Mick Thomson up with?

DiscinFiend 05-10-2014 03:18 AM

Are the more overstable MD3s going to be flat? Does the most recent run of C-Line PD2s have bubbles in the rim? Will future runs have bubbles in the rim?


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