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4ormal 07-02-2020 03:11 PM

Not to pick any certain pros apart or take away the work they've done. If they were entertaining to watch either on or off the course I'd be watching them too. People tip their waiter or waitress for less than 10 minutes of work without thinking twice even when they get bad service. I get criticized because I wanna support somebody I like by maybe kicking them down $10 or whatever percentage they get for their disc..... Come on guys, put stuff into perspective. People go to the theater and watch comedy, drama, action etc etc. There doesn't have to be single person, event, company to spend your time/money on. I have a bag full of Innova discs, I like what Brodie does, I wanted to get a disc and support somebody. Win-Win, I thought.... If that person or company doesn't have a good system in place to take money I'm willingly going to give them, I'll go support something else.

ChrisWoj 07-02-2020 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jakebake91 (Post 3602801)
It's not that at all. Couldn't care less about how you spend your money or who you want to support. Im simply saying that his reasoning made no sense. Lots of people have busted their asses over the years in the sport, doing clinics, overall supporting disc golf. Brodie has been here for less than a year.

You'd be right that that reasoning alone would make no sense. But... he had a whole bunch more to that paragraph. He gave reasons he preferred this particular entertainment. The hard work part was just that: part. He thought it was important to state that that played a role. Maybe if Brodie did everything else the same, but it was clear he wasn't putting in any real work - he wouldn't support Brodie.

BillFleming 07-02-2020 04:06 PM

Reading through a lot of these posts, I came to one conclusion - man is Brody hated.

I've met the man and I think he could be great for growing the sport. He is friendly and wants to help people out. Yeah, he comes about as brash and dropping out of a tournament has turned people off (he's not the only one who DNFs for injuries/sickness/whatever). But, as an ex-Ultimate player he is bringing in some insight to disc golf. He has a social media platform/presence that most players don't. He is working with Paul McBeth to learn disc golf AND he's sharing what he's learning with us. He even seems to have brought Paul out of his shell - I've seen past videos with Paul where he hardly says anything...now he's talkative and has more instructional videos out.

Is the hate due to him starting disc golf and IMMEDIATELY getting a sponsorship AND being coached by Paul McBeth? That seems more like it in my opinion. Who among us doesn't wish we could be coached by the 5x World Champ and have a sponsorship - maybe a bit jealous? I know I am.

rocthecourse 07-02-2020 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Keller (Post 3602685)
Perhaps, but have you run into one of these new Brodie converts yet? I have. A $20 back pack with $500 worth of plastic who can't throw for Sh%t but tells you how great every discs is and acts as obnoxious as Brodie does. Yeah, great, just what we need, more screaming idiots.:wall:

I would prefer to run into a Brodie converts than run into the disc golfers who have a $250+ bag full of OOP, special run discs,and the newest discs that throw for sh%t and look down on anyone who doesn't have an expensive bag full of discs even when you out drive them with a putter and they are using a driver*.


*I play a lot of one and two disc rounds and have had this happen on a regular basis.

DiscFifty 07-02-2020 05:01 PM

Actually, Brodie is giving us a small glimpse of what disc golf might be like if it was a huge sport and all the top players had their fans buying merch, branding, etc, etc. We like the old Paul and Simon because they seemed humbled to have our attention, but now days it's all about turning eyeballs into money. I personally don't blame them, let's keep in mind one of the most (apparently *) popular players Philo Brathwaite, made a whopping 14k from tournament money in 2019.

* Because I see him mentioned alot. And he has a good article in the latest mag. :)

jmac_21 07-09-2020 11:42 AM

Brodie is losing me quickly on his new rant about the Preserve.

Dude has been playing 7 months, and didn't even play the tournament he's complaining about. lol

jmac_21 07-09-2020 11:45 AM

Here are his tweets btw

https://twitter.com/Brodiesmith21/st...33030397546497

https://twitter.com/Brodiesmith21/st...35890799628289


Seems that he is going directly at Simon's most recent posts.

brutalbrutus 07-09-2020 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jmac_21 (Post 3605077)
Brodie is losing me quickly on his new rant about the Preserve.

Dude has been playing 7 months, and didn't even play the tournament he's complaining about. lol

What's playing 7mo have to do with it? Just because someone has been playing longer than he doesn't necessarily mean their opinion is any more or less valid on its surface...



...and there are plenty of people on here complaining who didn't play it either.

jmac_21 07-09-2020 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3605082)
What's playing 7mo have to do with it? Just because someone has been playing longer than he doesn't necessarily mean their opinion is any more or less valid on its surface...



...and there are plenty of people on here complaining who didn't play it either.

If a guy that just started playing and a guy that is a touring veteran have different opinions on Disc Golf I'm going with the guy that has actual experience 10 out of 10.

Brodie just wants disc golf to be Ball Golf so bad he cant stand it.

wolfhaley 07-09-2020 12:07 PM

I don't mind his opinion, everyone's entitled to one. I don't necessarily agree with it though. I like when tournaments come down to the wire myself.

Anyway, when is he playing his next one. Toboggan?

brutalbrutus 07-09-2020 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jmac_21 (Post 3605087)
If a guy that just started playing and a guy that is a touring veteran have different opinions on Disc Golf I'm going with the guy that has actual experience 10 out of 10.

Brodie just wants disc golf to be Ball Golf so bad he cant stand it.

People with experience can be just as wrong as a noob. All I'm saying is that if you disagree with his argument, then justify it with your own opinions on the matter rather than just dismissing it because you don't think he's earned the right to have an opinion.

jmac_21 07-09-2020 12:11 PM

Yeah let me be clear, he should get his own opinion.

I just think he's kind of inexperienced to be telling all disc golfers what their courses should look like and what type of golf they should enjoy.

brutalbrutus 07-09-2020 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfhaley (Post 3605093)
I don't mind his opinion, everyone's entitled to one. I don't necessarily agree with it though. I like when tournaments come down to the wire myself.

Anyway, when is he playing his next one. Toboggan?

He's signed up for a B-tier event in Virginia with Paul and Hannah next week...

https://www.pdga.com/tour/event/44274

Scwebby is also registered.:thmbup:

jmac_21 07-09-2020 12:14 PM

They've played that course a few times on Foundations channel and Pauls channel.

Really sweet course that Paul helped design.

Looks really tough though. Classic Virginia wooded style course.

muptonfish 07-09-2020 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jmac_21 (Post 3605087)
If a guy that just started playing and a guy that is a touring veteran have different opinions on Disc Golf I'm going with the guy that has actual experience 10 out of 10.

I would actually evaluate the opinions and not the people offering the opinions.

wolfhaley 07-09-2020 12:16 PM

Paul's gonna destroy that. What course is it on? Not that it really matters lol.

He is playing DGLO though right?

jmac_21 07-09-2020 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by muptonfish (Post 3605104)
I would actually evaluate the opinions and not the people offering the opinions.

You can do both relatively easily.

brutalbrutus 07-09-2020 12:18 PM

I wonder if foundation will be filming since its being run by Hunter?...


Also, there is no course listed by the name it gives on the registration page of DGU... Any Virginians know anything about Venhorst Park in Bedford, VA

jmac_21 07-09-2020 12:19 PM

I don't think Foundation will be filming, unfortunately.

I'd love to see it because it's a brand new course that Paul had a big hand in designing. It looks pretty sweet on video.

brutalbrutus 07-09-2020 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jmac_21 (Post 3605110)
I don't think Foundation will be filming, unfortunately.

I'd love to see it because it's a brand new course that Paul had a big hand in designing. It looks pretty sweet on video.

Kinda surprised Discraft and/or Paul haven't contracted one of the smaller film crews to follow him around yet.

brutalbrutus 07-09-2020 12:35 PM

Here's a course preview vid...



Nice looking course.

ru4por 07-09-2020 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jmac_21 (Post 3605087)
If a guy that just started playing and a guy that is a touring veteran have different opinions on Disc Golf I'm going with the guy that has actual experience 10 out of 10.

Brodie just wants disc golf to be Ball Golf so bad he cant stand it.

I think anyone with a PDGA number higher that 20000 has no business having an opinion on disc golf.

Hampstead 07-09-2020 01:21 PM

OPINIONS!

VictorB 07-09-2020 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 3605152)
I think anyone with a PDGA number higher that 20000 has no business having an opinion on disc golf.

*looks at sig*

HEY

Streets 07-09-2020 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 3605152)
I think anyone with a PDGA number higher that 20000 has no business having an opinion on disc golf.

Lol this reminds me of the latest event I played in. My card mate was using Udisc to score and asked me my PDGA# which is in the 50000s and he was like "dude, that's such a low number!" I facepalmed and proceeded to play like dog****.

ru4por 07-09-2020 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Streets (Post 3605160)
Lol this reminds me of the latest event I played in. My card mate was using Udisc to score and asked me my PDGA# which is in the 50000s and he was like "dude, that's such a low number!" I facepalmed and proceeded to play like dog****.

Right?.....I tell people my PDGA and have to provide an immediate caveat. "You think I would be good by now, huh?"

VictorB 07-09-2020 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 3605161)
Right?.....I tell people my PDGA and have to provide an immediate caveat. "You think I would be good by now, huh?"

I got mine like 6 months after I started playing. And my rating really hasn't gotten any better in about the last 10 years :gross:

Jimb 07-09-2020 01:48 PM

So, Brad... ferretdance03, you ready to take on Schwebby, Brodie, McBeast and the rest at The Battle For Bedford? :)

Play well and have fun!!! :thmbup:

Monocacy 07-09-2020 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 3605152)
I think anyone with a PDGA number higher that 20000 has no business having an opinion on disc golf.

Heh. Another rule is that one must play at least 100 courses before earning an opinion. :D

BillFleming 07-09-2020 01:54 PM

<<joking feature enabled>>

So, no opinions if your PDGA # is above 20000, you have played less than 100 courses, your rating is lower than 1000, and you don't play Professional Open (MPO/FPO)? What other criteria for opinions did I miss?

:D

<<joking feature disabled>>

brutalbrutus 07-09-2020 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BillFleming (Post 3605177)
<<joking feature enabled>>

So, no opinions if your PDGA # is above 20000, you have played less than 100 courses, your rating is lower than 1000, and you don't play Professional Open (MPO/FPO)? What other criteria for opinions did I miss?

:D

<<joking feature disabled>>

If you can't...


THROW IT OVER THAT MOUNTAIN?!?

:D

Hampstead 07-09-2020 02:08 PM

500' of internet distance at a minimum before your opinion even has a chance to be considered.

Dcinmd 07-09-2020 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 3605152)
I think anyone with a PDGA number higher that 20000 has no business having an opinion on disc golf.

You sound like a hoity toity 4 digit. LOLOLOL :D

ru4por 07-09-2020 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dcinmd (Post 3605190)
You sound like a hoity toity 4 digit. LOLOLOL :D

Nah.....a not so hoity toity 5 digeter.

Ryan P. 07-09-2020 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3605109)
I wonder if foundation will be filming since its being run by Hunter?...


Also, there is no course listed by the name it gives on the registration page of DGU... Any Virginians know anything about Venhorst Park in Bedford, VA

I played it last summer (before it was sold to the Parks & Rec dept and Paul started helping design it). I'm sure the video does a better job showing you the course than I can, and there are a few holes that I didn't find when playing it (absolutely no tees or signs when I played it). Also, I added it to the course directory on this site a few months back but it ain't here now. It's located around the pond behind the Wal-Mart in Bedford, VA.

It's very tight, and punishes bad shots. not a ton of choice on many holes, more of a "here's the shot you need to make, now execute it."

It's also very muggy playing around that pond and creek in this heat. The heat could get to Brodie late in the rounds (although I know the sun is a bigger issue with the doxy, and it's very shady), and if his form starts to falter when that happens, he's in for a rough day.

If you want to know anything else about the course, lmk (not that I know much).

DiscFifty 07-10-2020 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jmac_21 (Post 3605087)
Brodie just wants disc golf to be Ball Golf so bad he cant stand it.

Not sure.... especially with his brash behavior. If anything it sounds like he wants it to be more entertaining. I could care less what courses the pros play, I just enjoy watching the best in the game play. If it happens to be an open course, love seeing the bombs, if it's a technical course, love seeing the accuracy. I do think every course should have a mix of both.

BillFleming 07-10-2020 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3605443)
I could care less what courses the pros play, I just enjoy watching the best in the game play. If it happens to be an open course, love seeing the bombs, if it's a technical course, love seeing the accuracy. I do think every course should have a mix of both.

I second that! I play on open courses and technical ones....I don't care which type of course the pros play on - I can learn from it either way.

Open courses: I get to pay more attention to how they are throwing/putting/etc. How do they run/walk-up? How do they throw stand-still? How do they line their throw up? (James Conrad practice throws and 'aims' over his left elbow). How do they putt?

Technical courses: What decisions do they make on disc choice, type of throw, where they want to 'hit' and land?

Whatever course they are playing, there's a lot I can learn from it.

dreadlock86 07-10-2020 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by muptonfish (Post 3605104)
I would actually evaluate the opinions and not the people offering the opinions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmac_21 (Post 3605108)
You can do both relatively easily.


apparently not, since you refuse to

Muddyboots 07-13-2020 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3605109)
I wonder if foundation will be filming since its being run by Hunter?...


Also, there is no course listed by the name it gives on the registration page of DGU... Any Virginians know anything about Venhorst Park in Bedford, VA

I played the long tees for about the 5th or 6th time today. One round off the short tees. What would you like to know?

brutalbrutus 07-13-2020 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Muddyboots (Post 3606725)
I played the long tees for about the 5th or 6th time today. One round off the short tees. What would you like to know?

Thx but the course preview did a pretty good job of answering any questions...




Btw, I asked Hunter on a YT vid, Foundation will be doing filming for this event.:thmbup:


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