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Jay Dub 08-21-2020 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ballgolfconvert (Post 3621760)
I agree that if you throw your disc off the course boundaries it should be stroke and distance. I totally disagree with any in-course out of bounds. I think water should be considered a hazard and not OB. I also hate TDs requiring a drop in the drop zone (against PDGA rules if you don't have prior PDGA permission), but is common in our area events. The thing that irritates me the most though is the fact that there are times that you can take your drop closer to the hole than where your disc last crossed the OB / water hazard line.

All the confusion. maybe it's time for you to go back to ball golf... ? :clap:

BuiltTooLong 08-21-2020 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Dub (Post 3621837)
All the confusion. maybe it's time for you to go back to ball golf... ? :clap:

I now realize his username is not so much about him but more his vision for disc golf. :|

BlueMonk 08-21-2020 05:45 PM

Brodie is very vocal about a sport he's new to, which is what seems to bother some people. We're talking about someone very motivated, very extroverted and very driven. I suspect it's all part of the package and he's not going to shy away from saying what he thinks. He reached the top of one sport and now he's making a go as a legit pro at another. It's hard not to respect that.

There are a couple things Brodie has spoken up about that I thought were unnecessary. Like when he went on Twitter about how he didn't like the what Jamie Thomas was saying about him. Jamie took the high road and apologized, but I didn't think it was necessary for Jamie to do that. Brodie came across thin-skinned and kind of whiny to me by doing that. I would have loved to hear Brodie say something like, "I know I'm new to the sport and I have to earn the respect of the fans and the media by proving I'm serious about this. I'm confident I'm going to be able to do that." I don't think anyone could find fault with a comment like that, and he probably would have made a few more fans.

Then again, maybe being a little polarizing is actually helping him gain a following. It may even be a deliberate strategy. Wouldn't be the first time an athlete has taken that approach. Who knows? I hope he continues to play and does well.

nothinbuttree 08-21-2020 06:02 PM

FWIW, I have always been a proponent in sports that one gets better by playing with or against better players. I don't think his issues are mental, where some artificial confidence from winning some local C tiers will be of much use. His issues are more physical. He is good now, just not great yet. Not sure he gets to the next level by winning small tournaments against lower rated players.

I honestly believe he feels this way too--so the answer would then be one of image. Either pride is setting in, or he fears merch sales will tank if he continually is in the bottom third. Nothing wrong if that is his reason. But if he TRULY wants to be a top 10 sort of pro, the more pro tour events against top pros the better, and screw the merch sales. If its just about the benjamins, then carry on...Perhaps he needs to pick a main path this point.

I will say this, from my armchair, its a bad look dropping out of top tier events, for whatever reason. He should take a page from young Zach, who is certainly not shying away from the top competition whenever an event is feasible for him to attend.

Jay Dub 08-21-2020 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueMonk (Post 3621914)
Brodie is very vocal about a sport he's new to, which is what seems to bother some people. We're talking about someone very motivated, very extroverted and very driven. I suspect it's all part of the package and he's not going to shy away from saying what he thinks. He reached the top of one sport and now he's making a go as a legit pro at another. It's hard not to respect that.

There are a couple things Brodie has spoken up about that I thought were unnecessary. Like when he went on Twitter about how he didn't like the what Jamie Thomas was saying about him. Jamie took the high road and apologized, but I didn't think it was necessary for Jamie to do that. Brodie came across thin-skinned and kind of whiny to me by doing that. I would have loved to hear Brodie say something like, "I know I'm new to the sport and I have to earn the respect of the fans and the media by proving I'm serious about this. I'm confident I'm going to be able to do that." I don't think anyone could find fault with a comment like that, and he probably would have made a few more fans.

Then again, maybe being a little polarizing is actually helping him gain a following. It may even be a deliberate strategy. Wouldn't be the first time an athlete has taken that approach. Who knows? I hope he continues to play and does well.

Then he (and his super fan boys :rolleyes: ) should have no problem with people saying/giving their less than positive opinion(s) about him and what he's doing.

brutalbrutus 08-21-2020 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueMonk (Post 3621914)
Brodie is very vocal about a sport he's new to, which is what seems to bother some people. We're talking about someone very motivated, very extroverted and very driven. I suspect it's all part of the package and he's not going to shy away from saying what he thinks. He reached the top of one sport and now he's making a go as a legit pro at another. It's hard not to respect that.

There are a couple things Brodie has spoken up about that I thought were unnecessary. Like when he went on Twitter about how he didn't like the what Jamie Thomas was saying about him. Jamie took the high road and apologized, but I didn't think it was necessary for Jamie to do that. Brodie came across thin-skinned and kind of whiny to me by doing that. I would have loved to hear Brodie say something like, "I know I'm new to the sport and I have to earn the respect of the fans and the media by proving I'm serious about this. I'm confident I'm going to be able to do that." I don't think anyone could find fault with a comment like that, and he probably would have made a few more fans.

Then again, maybe being a little polarizing is actually helping him gain a following. It may even be a deliberate strategy. Wouldn't be the first time an athlete has taken that approach. Who knows? I hope he continues to play and does well.

You would think bashing JT would have garnered him more fans round these parts.:D

Jimb 08-21-2020 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nothinbuttree (Post 3621927)
FWIW, I have always been a proponent in sports that one gets better by playing with or against better players. I don't think his issues are mental, where some artificial confidence from winning some local C tiers will be of much use. His issues are more physical. He is good now, just not great yet. Not sure he gets to the next level by winning small tournaments against lower rated players.

I honestly believe he feels this way too--so the answer would then be one of image. Either pride is setting in, or he fears merch sales will tank if he continually is in the bottom third. Nothing wrong if that is his reason. But if he TRULY wants to be a top 10 sort of pro, the more pro tour events against top pros the better, and screw the merch sales. If its just about the benjamins, then carry on...Perhaps he needs to pick a main path this point.

I will say this, from my armchair, its a bad look dropping out of top tier events, for whatever reason. He should take a page from young Zach, who is certainly not shying away from the top competition whenever an event is feasible for him to attend.

I thought that he dropped out because he wanted to refine his skills off of the course. I believe that he mentioned field work and lots of repetitions to get to know his discs better. This can all be done close to home without trying to fit in his practice time between travel time, learning courses, and 3-4 day tournaments.

If he ends up playing some smaller tournaments in TX then he'll, to an extent, be killing two birds with one stone. He'll get more practice time in and will still be able to gain some tournament experience (of course against lesser competition) without having to travel across the country. Things like long backups can take some getting used to and this could be the opportunity to get in some reps at a lower stress level.

Hampstead 08-21-2020 09:17 PM

Right now, Brodie is nothing more than a local pro with an oversized following.

Keller 08-21-2020 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hampstead (Post 3621980)
Right now, Brodie is nothing more than a local pro with an oversized following.

Yeah, but has Brodie peaked?:popcorn:

Hampstead 08-21-2020 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Keller (Post 3621992)
Yeah, but has Brodie peaked?:popcorn:

His 983 golf hasn't piqued my interest yet, that's for sure.

BrotherDave 08-21-2020 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by discerdoo (Post 3620857)
Social media in general allows for much bizarre and stupid stuff, and social media is what Bro-D does.

You say bizarre and stupid stuff like that's a bad thing. :|

(Stroke and distance is gay and Brodie is being a dumb "make disc golf be more like ball golf" nerd)

Hampstead 08-21-2020 10:37 PM

I find Dustin Keegan to be a far more interesting mediocre pro than Brodie.

Streets 08-21-2020 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hampstead (Post 3622008)
I find Dustin Keegan to be a far more interesting mediocre pro than Brodie.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6ozC...MNKo/giphy.gif

wolfhaley 08-22-2020 01:10 AM

Does Dustin Keegan even tour anymore? I kinda forgot about him.

Emoney 08-22-2020 01:40 AM

It only makes sense for Brodie to compare disc golf to ball golf because it is the exact same concept.

Its so weird to see ppl say we shouldnt compare the two or use examples from ball golf to improve disc golf. Ball golf has given disc golf structure and rules to legitimize it and eventually it will help turn it into a sport.(i hope)

I grew up playing ball golf and what got me over to mainly disc golf was ..

1: pace of play, alot quicker of a round
2: casual setting, its a nice walk through the forrest in street clothes.
3: It was easier, i didnt have to spend hours and hours of practicing to maintain a high level of play.
4: its cheaper, ball golf green fees got cray cray

Ball golf is so hard to get good at and impossible to maintain a high level of play without constant practice. Brodie knows this and understands disc golf could use a little more challenge.

robdeforge 08-22-2020 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Emoney (Post 3622052)
It only makes sense for Brodie to compare disc golf to ball golf because it is the exact same concept.

Its so weird to see ppl say we shouldnt compare the two or use examples from ball golf to improve disc golf. Ball golf has given disc golf structure and rules to legitimize it and eventually it will help turn it into a sport.(i hope)

disc golf isn't a sport already?

brutalbrutus 08-29-2020 10:14 PM

Brodie is in a two day Btier in Oklahoma. Shot a -9 1032 and is tied for the lead after first round.

https://www.pdga.com/tour/event/44863

discerdoo 08-29-2020 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3625464)
Brodie is in a two day Btier in Oklahoma. Shot a -9 1032 and is tied for the lead after first round.

https://www.pdga.com/tour/event/44863

Bet ya that Bo and Coda both beat him.

brutalbrutus 08-29-2020 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by discerdoo (Post 3625471)
Bet ya that Bo and Coda both beat him.

You're stepping way out on the skinny branch, eh?... lol


They are both really solid players and should beat him.

discerdoo 08-29-2020 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3625475)
You're stepping way out on the skinny branch, eh?... lol


They are both really solid players and should beat him.

😁 Best players that I'm slightly aquatinted with, Bo runs the weekly mini's that I play and Coda usually plays. Seem to be pretty good dudes too.

wolfhaley 08-30-2020 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by discerdoo (Post 3625480)
😁 Best players that I'm slightly aquatinted with, Bo runs the weekly mini's that I play and Coda usually plays. Seem to be pretty good dudes too.

Well since you're tight with Coda, see if he wants to hook me up with some of his old Westside stuff. Northmen in particular, ya know, for us big arms. :D

Jolt 08-30-2020 06:18 AM

Nice to see him back and nice round :)

Jolt 08-30-2020 05:27 PM

well done Brodie :)

brutalbrutus 08-30-2020 05:58 PM

Yup... got his first win.

peabody 08-30-2020 08:55 PM

Hanging with the big dawgs rubbed off.

brutalbrutus 08-30-2020 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by peabody (Post 3625698)
Hanging with the big dawgs rubbed off.

Watching his vids you can tell he's a pretty intense competitor. I'm guessing he took a lot of pressure off himself with this decision and is looser and playing good golf because of it.

Its also a pretty good idea to kick it around local scene for awhile in general. Everyone needs that back and forth with other good area players to prepare them for the tour. Just hopping straight into it was a bad idea in hindsight.

DiscFifty 08-30-2020 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hampstead (Post 3621980)
Right now, Brodie is nothing more than a local pro with an oversized following.

Yah...but this thread keeps growing because of....well... you get it...

davetherocketguy 08-30-2020 10:01 PM

Brodie has got to stop taking everything every troll says so freaking seriously. You'd think with his experience as sort of a celebrity he'd have some experience dealing with it but he keeps posting little whiny tweets like this:

https://twitter.com/Brodiesmith21/st...80423405781001

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People will say anything behind their keyboards. I have yet to have someone come up to me in person to have a conversation. Still waiting.
Jeebers man...internet trolls are everywhere. Turn the page.

-Dave

tarel 08-30-2020 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by davetherocketguy (Post 3625725)
Brodie has got to stop taking everything every troll says so freaking seriously. You'd think with his experience as sort of a celebrity he'd have some experience dealing with it but he keeps posting little whiny tweets like this:

https://twitter.com/Brodiesmith21/st...80423405781001



Jeebers man...internet trolls are everywhere. Turn the page.

-Dave


I got him to lick a microphone during some give me $ stream.

https://youtu.be/IFJmkKYQ0dw?t=11128

Jimb 08-30-2020 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tarel (Post 3625748)
I got him to lick a microphone during some give me $ stream.

https://youtu.be/IFJmkKYQ0dw?t=11128

Did you pay? :p

Jolt 08-31-2020 02:10 AM

Strong mental game to birdy the two last holes to win. . and two +1020 rated rounds.. .

He can very well be +1000 rated before the year ends. . and thats GOOD to hit a 1000 in his first year of playing

brutalbrutus 08-31-2020 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jolt (Post 3625815)
Strong mental game to birdy the two last holes to win. . and two +1020 rated rounds.. .

He can very well be +1000 rated before the year ends. . and thats GOOD to hit a 1000 in his first year of playing

His rating was going to drop a couple points but if this event gets on the Sept update, they might keep him from dropping and may even go up a point or two.

He'll get plenty of opportunities to raise it up to 1000. There are lots of tourneys in his area in the late summer/fall.

Jolt 08-31-2020 03:42 AM

This feels like a good level tournament for him to play, easier to beat a few +1000 rated players than basicly ALL of the +1000 rated players at Ledgestone.

But the next event he is signed up for have 10 players rated +1000

robdeforge 08-31-2020 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by davetherocketguy (Post 3625725)
Brodie has got to stop taking everything every troll says so freaking seriously. You'd think with his experience as sort of a celebrity he'd have some experience dealing with it but he keeps posting little whiny tweets like this:

https://twitter.com/Brodiesmith21/st...80423405781001



Jeebers man...internet trolls are everywhere. Turn the page.

-Dave

plus... there's a pandemic going on..... calling out people for not talking to you face to face right now is kinda tone deaf

aredoubles 09-01-2020 08:09 AM

Tentative tournament schedule, though he hasn't signed up for most of these yet:

Sept 5 Town Lake Open
Sept 12-13 Lewisville Open
Sept 18-20 Jacksonville Open
Oct 2-4 Texas State Disc Golf Championship
Nov 21-22 The Open at Belton

https://mobile.twitter.com/Brodiesmi...41176630849536


And a new video, which is mostly walking around and talking.


robdeforge 09-01-2020 08:17 AM

The stickers are pretty questionable to me. But if that’s what their fans want....

DiscFifty 09-02-2020 09:20 PM

https://twitter.com/Brodiesmith21/st...01398154592256

"Looking for a sick Darkhorse disc or maybe a Get Freaky? You have to join the Brodie Smith Collector Facebook Group."

https://www.facebook.com/groups/651993202329779/

jakebake91 09-03-2020 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3627345)
https://twitter.com/Brodiesmith21/st...01398154592256

"Looking for a sick Darkhorse disc or maybe a Get Freaky? You have to join the Brodie Smith Collector Facebook Group."

https://www.facebook.com/groups/651993202329779/

Is he actively selling on there? It'd make sense. Might as well try and get a slice of that jacked up secondary market pie.

brutalbrutus 09-10-2020 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3614056)
After a meh first round(952), Brodie shot the hot round of the event(1015) at a ctier in Texas and almost came from behind for the win. Finished 2nd 2 shots back... No top players at the event but looked to be a solid local field.

https://www.pdga.com/tour/event/44654

He posted a vid for the final round of this event from back in August...




That teepad on #4 is definitely James Conrad approved...:eek:

Danderlion 09-10-2020 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3629931)


That teepad on #4 is definitely James Conrad approved...:eek:

lol, yeah... that's the longest tee pad I've seen.


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