If they put out a Halo FD I will buy that, yes. I will also buy the new Discmania FD whenever it's available.

"It's possible that Hailey is not correct." =/= "hAiLeY mUsT bE wRoNg"

They are making it her tour series disc, according to Hailey right? or has somebody else come out and confirmed that?

I know PDGA measurements are notoriously inaccurate. I should have added that to my original post. I'm just pointing out possibilities. It is also entirely possible, and more likely than not, that it is a halo FD. but as far as I know so far the only confirmation we have is from Hailey

Already have one of each but I'm a horrible person. Probably have 20 of each with the DM brand.

I refuse to believe that the actual measurements are inaccurate to a notorious extent as it is not rocket science to operate a caliper. I am way more inclined to believe that the discs sent to reapproval, or the discs you measure at home, are indeed very different from the discs sent to PDGA. It is not that uncommon to find visibly different discs within the same run, let alone across different runs.

I'm not entirely sure if your comment implied (unjustly) PDGA's incompetence in measuring things or if you referred to run-to-run variation in disc dimensions but if it was the latter, then feel free to ignore this reply :o

I agree. We don’t know the details of how all of this went down, but Innova’s move seems morally bogus but business brilliant. They are The Godfather company in this game, and it sucks that it’s so hard to compete with them.

Because of this, I wish DM could move 3X faster to be more competitive. Stating the obvious, they could sell a lot more if they had a lot more available. Hopefully 2022 can see exponential growth for them so they can reclaim their place in the market, but they can’t do that with standard color (i.e. no swirl/non-aesthetic) plastics, subpar stamps, minimal and sporadic restocks, disappointing mystery boxes, dissatisfied releases, high prices, and low durability (mainly d-line flex 2). They’re reinventing, we all get that, but my hope for this company is not just to crawl back to their old place but to claim a newer, higher position in the pecking order. DM has what it takes and deserves to look and operate like Discraft, so my hope is they/we can get there. 5 year plan?

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The entirety of 2021 we took things via air, a decision that many companies weren't willing to take because it's outrageously expensive. 2022 will bring somewhat regular container shipments and higher volume restocks in turn. First one should arrive in a couple weeks. More urgent disc releases such as signature ones will likely still be taken via air since they are more time sensitive. Lots of improvements to build on this year for sure :) Q1 is going to be a banger

Would be cool if there comes a day when you could buy swirly s-line cloud breaker online without having either anxiety about the 10x retail price or smashing the computer buttons to get through checkout.....

Hopefully it is the bottom now and the future will be better

Latitude 64 next door has it figured out pretty well. Discmania will catch up.

BTW, is that P2 machine still pumping out P2s until demand is met, or is it put to different work?

My comment was more to say that the PDGA measurements are not a good source of proof for a mold. It could easily be that the measurements are 100% accurate, but if I give you 5 destroyers from 5 different runs you are not going to see the same measurements. There is enough variablity disc to disc to explain the differences in measurements between the original FD, the fairway disc and the hawkeye. It was not meant to be an attack on the PDGA, although I see how it came off that way.

Hmmmmm? :/

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