So I go into a pro shop today and fondle a flight number firm Electron Envy. Absolute junk. It was more flexible than my medium Electron Envy I bought for the LE first run stamp.

I am very glad I have backups already, because these will not every be bought by me.

Absolute trash.

This reminds me of how Gateway grades their plastic.

150 class maybe?

I also just heard through the grapevine that they will be announcing some new releases next week.

Nope, 174g

As a general rule, lighter weight discs from MVP tend to have firmer overmolds. The core is affected barely, if any, at all.

There is a rumor that MVP uses 2 different weighted cores, one for 150 class non fission and one for normal weights but I have never been able to verify this.

I did pick up a used Neutron Clash and an Plasma Amp. I have not had a Clash in my bag since I lost my Solar Spinner a couple years ago. It may go into my collection whilst the Amp I got for a water disc.

The max weight Neutron Wraths do really well in the wind. It's one of my favorite forehand discs.

How much difference is there between a tesla and a wrath of the same weight and same plastic? I know PLH and how they mold up will ultimately decide this but I had a 175 proton tesla and when I learned to keep the nose down it became my most reliable disc. Dead straight for a mile with a reliable fade at the end.

My hope has been that the proton wrath would be like that out of the box. I think mine was close only a bit more turn but it was also 10g lighter so that could have been a factor. I like neutron plastic just fine but there's something about proton that feels better in my hand.

ANYWAY I just lost my only wrath, one of my inertias , and my only crave - plasma 175 workhorse fairway driver so maybe I should just rip the bandaid now and buy some neutron wraths or proton teslas.

Cripes.. My tendency to lose discs doesn't pair well with some of my plastics and backup molds going OoP.. only carrying 7-8 molds at any time now and I still can't seem to acquire multiples of them all before losing the originals:wall:

Well...proton wrath going oop, so I'd try to find a different replacement for it. I can't offer suggestions yet, as I haven't lost my proton wrath ....yet. I'll likely go the neutron route though I think.

So who's been watching Sales of their wish list on the different disc sellers sites?

I noticed heavy proton Spins have declined in stock, but no others, Tangents seems like lighter ones are moving. I haven't really noticed much else.

I kind of expected a little more action..