Off and on, the Switch took its place...

the switch??

ill pray for you

I was curious so I took it out to the field for some hard flicks. I threw: 1 N Relay, 3 N Insanities, 1 Pro Inspire, and 1 N Switch.

The only definite conclusion I drew was that the Relay was the least tolerant of OAT. It turned hard if I fluttered it. But it was also the straightest and seemed the most glidey so if you stay really clean you could shape some nice lasers with it. It was kind of breezy out there so how much was the disc or me vs random headwinds is anybody's guess.

I tried throwing them hard but solidly hyzer release and was alright at keeping them hyzer for the most part. Two of my Insanities are actually decently stable, I can crank on them flat and expect them to come back, one is understable but not crazy flippy. The Inspire is kinda warped and concave so I don't know if it's representative of Inspires writ large. It was the 2nd least tolerant of OAT but also seemed to have decent LSS. The Switch is the most similar to the Relay except it's more likely to turn and fade whereas the Relay wants to go straight as possible. I tried throwing them slightly downhill with a clean and flat release and again, the Relay only stood out as turning hard left and not fighting back if you wobbled it over. On these downhill throws I was able to get a couple of Insanities and the Inspire to almost the 300' mark (probably plays like 275') and the rest about 20-30' shorter but my forehand is a work in progress. The Relay and Switch seemed a little slower than the others.

Both heavy I'd say similar enough. You have to give them both that type of delivery where you just want to pop it to flat and sail it downrange, rather than crank on it and let it S-curve back (b/c it won't).

i read both of your last posts

i flick my insanity to pop up and ride with little fade the relay seems like a slower laser beam that wont do as well in the wind tho

maybe like a leo or a fd

that big jerm style fh seems to paint the best picture of fh a relay

Agree. I flick the Relay often but most often Big Jerm hyper flip style. It does moderately well in wind but not something I would rely on especially on more open courses. It is also good for situational flick spike hyzers or controlled flick turnovers in the woods. I bag at least 1 Relay and sometimes 2.

I never threw mids for most of 18 years. Then I switched to MVP. Now I reach for a mid or putter first.

ENTROPY - 4/3/0/3 out soon-----ish - so....theres that :)

It was supposed to be a putter. Where did you see those numbers?

From MVP Disc Sports - Facebook page - they have a pic of a neutron Entropy and its numbered 4/3/0/3 :thmbup::popcorn: