I'm lucky I don't lose many here, they just get retired sometimes only temporarily.. So I invest in the SE's and stuff since I plan on having em a long time.

Just looked at my bag from last tourney.. 2x ohms, Envy, 3 waves, 2 relays, 2 teslas (155/164)

With me not carrying the Spin much these days the lid would fit in the lineup.

The way the winds blowing today I should go toss the Teslas and see how they fair, surprisingly last time I played in Gale force winds the Inertia was my go to driver. Might have to dust one off for tomorrow.

Can someone suggest something by MVP that's slightly less understable than a wave? Are proton waves more stable? I have a neutron and a plasma the plasma is definitely less flippy and more workable.

I tried some neutron photons and they are REALLY beefy for my arm speed. My photons are also super flat, so maybe that's why.

I hear the cosmic neutron are probably the most stable Wave. There are some reports on this thread or the Wave thread.

My Proton Wave is my least stable wave, I threw a beat in Neutron that was more US. The Cosmic Neutron is beefier, and the Cosmic Plasma is in between.

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Well may not work for everyone but I use a fission Tesla in that space. I used to use a 143 fission photon but they didn't deliver as well in the wind. Best to use a 160ish tesla instead.

Awesome. I'll try a couple in the cosmic neutron, something just a touch more stable than the plasma one I have sounds perfect. Thanks for the insight.

I went 10 years without losing a disc. Then I moved to St. Louis. Now I lose one or so a month. :gross:

On a whim, I decided to try out the signal, the relay, and the axiom pyro this week and whew this is a fun lot! I already throw the motion (frequently), tesla (frequently), and the phase (rarely) so I wanted to see what the understable side of MVP was like (and the pyro was an attempt to find a suitable replacement for a buzzz OS). The relay and the signal are a blast to throw! Both discs soar with low power throws, are easy to flip, and have a touch more fade (at least right out of the box) than I was expecting. I am really digging the signal because it's different than any other disc I have. The closest I'd have is a Discraft Archer (the ace race variant) and while they have the same flight numbers, 6/5/-3/1, I find the archer starts turning the moment it leaves your hand (in fact, I was sure that I just always released it wrong, but I threw a stack of buzzzes, mako3s, and archers one day and saw that no, if thrown the same way, the archer does turn almost immediately). The signal is different and will hold a straighter flight longer before starting its turn. I'm really hoping that that feature doesn't go away as the disc wears in, but that's also why I got the relay, thinking that it might break in to something like the signal.

Glad that you are having fun with the Signal and Relay. I have Relay bagged since they came out first in the Circuit edition and while beat in are different than a fresh or beat Signal. While there might be some overlap in flight if you through the Relay into a strong headwind I find that even after a few years of beating they still have a tick of fade at the end. I don't have that with my Signal. The key to both is getting the release speed right. When you nail it, the combo of these two plus a Resistor and a Servo can set you up for most shots shy of 350, especially in the woods. Love the Relay for both BH and FH. The Signal is really only a BH disc for me and replace when I have to flick but need a tighter and more glidey left to right than I would get with most of my FH discs.

Yeah I love all of my other mvp discs that are OS for flicks... that's how I got into MVP in the first place. I used the tesla on flicks and then after losing a Discraft Flick that I really liked for flicks, I started experimenting with the motion and the phase and I love them both. My icon's a motion... or more specifically, a disco blobfish in motion. So I wasn't looking for a forehand disc with the signal and relay, but rather touch backhand. I'd be fine with the signal losing its fade over time, I just don't want it to lose its delayed turn. It flies very much how I was hoping a seasoned buzzz SS would fly so I don't need to wait for Discraft to restock now, though I might have to pick up another signal because I'm really having fun with it.