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robdeforge 08-15-2020 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by scooby snack (Post 3611562)
Brodie beat Arlinghaus, and Barsby, and placed one stroke behind Koling. That's pretty good for a guy new to disc golf and tournament play, IMO.

can we get brodie et al's current placements at ledgestone?

Jolt 08-15-2020 01:08 PM

Brodie is going for the most OB in one round price today

brutalbrutus 08-15-2020 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jolt (Post 3619579)
Brodie is going for the most OB in one round price today

Yea... So much for my "he's going to play well" prediction, lol... At least he settled down finally and got a couple birds.

Jolt 08-15-2020 02:23 PM

I think Brodie is good for the sport so I hope he starts to place better soon or I’m afraid he will start doing something else

scooby snack 08-16-2020 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by scooby snack (Post 3611562)
Brodie beat Arlinghaus, and Barsby, that's pretty good for a guy new to disc golf and tournament play,

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3619572)
can we get brodie et al's current placements at ledgestone?

Brodie was never expected to do well, but he’s had some good rounds. Is he shredding the courses at Ledgestone? Hardly.

But what he has done, is beat a world champion in a PDGA sanctioned event. And I might add, he’s done it in the modern (Paul McBeth) era, where supposedly there’s much more competition than in the Ken Climo era.

How many world champions have you beaten in a PDGA sanctioned event? (Asking for a friend).

Keller 08-16-2020 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by scooby snack (Post 3619874)
Brodie was never expected to do well, but he’s had some good rounds. Is he shredding the courses at Ledgestone? Hardly.

But what he has done, is beat a world champion in a PDGA sanctioned event. And I might add, he’s done it in the modern (Paul McBeth) era, where supposedly there’s much more competition than in the Ken Climo era.

How many world champions have you beaten in a PDGA sanctioned event? (Asking for a friend).

Yeah, that would make me feel really proud.
Hey look! I beat a guy that had the worst round or tournament of the year! I'm great! Lets all get freaky!:doh:

Jay Dub 08-16-2020 01:22 PM

I beat Climo once. I remember that real well. I took a 2 and he took a 3 that hole...

scooby snack 08-16-2020 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Keller (Post 3619881)
Yeah, that would make me feel really proud.
Hey look! I beat a guy that had the worst round or tournament of the year! I'm great! Lets all get freaky!:doh:

That probably would make you feel proud beating a world champion, but since you never have, I guess you’ll never know.

Keller 08-16-2020 01:43 PM

troll

scooby snack 08-16-2020 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Keller (Post 3619889)
troll

I’m a troll because unlike you I don’t have a problem with Brodie,
and I think he deserves a little recognition for playing better than people expected, and beating a world champ? Lulz

People expect a certain level of play from top level players, especially from world champions. So go ahead and make excuses for someone new to disc golf, beating a world champion (who’s been playing and touring for YEARS).

BTW, you still haven’t told us how many world champions you’ve beaten in a PDGA sanctioned event. Yet you seem eager to trivialize someone else for this very accomplishment, simply because you dislike him.

robdeforge 08-16-2020 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Keller (Post 3619889)
troll

a pretty boring one at that

brutalbrutus 08-16-2020 02:33 PM

Decent round by Brodie today. -1 Limited the OBs much better than yesterday and managed to salvage a par on 18 after going OB on his approach with a circle 2 putt. Should be somewhere around 1010 if the ratings from yesterday hold true today.

With a week of practice and then a week at Smugs, it will be interesting to see how he rebounds from what I'm sure he sees as a very disappointing result at Ledgestone...

c_a_miller 08-16-2020 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3619913)
Decent round by Brodie today. -1 Limited the OBs much better than yesterday and managed to salvage a par on 18 after going OB on his approach with a circle 2 putt. Should be somewhere around 1010 if the ratings from yesterday hold true today.

With a week of practice and then a week at Smugs, it will be interesting to see how he rebounds from what I'm sure he sees as a very disappointing result at Ledgestone...

https://twitter.com/brodiesmith21/st...117132803?s=21
Or he is just going to drop out of every tournament the rest of the year.

Hampstead 08-16-2020 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by scooby snack (Post 3619874)
How many world champions have you beaten in a PDGA sanctioned event? (Asking for a friend).

I've beaten Johnny Sias before.

BryanC 08-16-2020 09:31 PM

I hope he changes his mind. If not, I'm going to owe Jay Dubs a disc.

Tpro 08-16-2020 09:45 PM

I’ll give credit where it is do. He played much better today.

runningoz 08-16-2020 10:10 PM

Pity party. Sounds like my high schoolers after a bad game.

brutalbrutus 08-16-2020 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by c_a_miller (Post 3620008)
https://twitter.com/brodiesmith21/st...117132803?s=21
Or he is just going to drop out of every tournament the rest of the year.

Yea that kinda sucks but if he really is going to do this...

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55m
True, but getting in the field and getting reps will increase my skill faster.
...then I can see why. He's coming out of a few years of trying to get good at stick golf and like DG, you don't really get better in that by practice rounds and going to big tourneys and getting your butt kicked. You get better by going to the driving range and hitting a thousand balls a day.

So if he really is going back home to put in tons of hours of field work and comes out next year better for it, then so be it.

mizunodave 08-16-2020 11:43 PM

I'd enjoy hearing him talk for a few minutes on what exactly it is he thinks he needs to do. Self awareness of your weaknesses is an important skill.

robdeforge 08-17-2020 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3620018)
Yea that kinda sucks but if he really is going to do this...



...then I can see why. He's coming out of a few years of trying to get good at stick golf and like DG, you don't really get better in that by practice rounds and going to big tourneys and getting your butt kicked. You get better by going to the driving range and hitting a thousand balls a day.

So if he really is going back home to put in tons of hours of field work and comes out next year better for it, then so be it.

I’ll be curious to see how this all shakes out. Seems to me part of his problem in rounds 1 and 2 were the long wait times. Not sure how he’ll get better at dealing with those without practice but I’ll just have to wait and see.

Definitely comes off as super salty tho lol

autocrosscrx 08-17-2020 07:30 AM

I didn't go deep into the Twitter part, but I really see a problem, or even salt....

Critics say that he isn't ready for big tournaments and the spotlight yet. He states, or implies, the same and the same people criticize him for that, too.

robdeforge 08-17-2020 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by autocrosscrx (Post 3620075)
I didn't go deep into the Twitter part, but I really see a problem, or even salt....

Critics say that he isn't ready for big tournaments and the spotlight yet. He states, or implies, the same and the same people criticize him for that, too.

what has he been saying in response to those critics up to this point?

Jolt 08-17-2020 08:10 AM

i understand that it´s not for his brand to be out of the top 100. . . but he still needs to play all the courses on tour a few times . . harder to do if he drops out for the rest of the year.

but his placement this week probably broke him for a few days. . .hope he gets back on tour for a few more tries

autocrosscrx 08-17-2020 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3620077)
what has he been saying in response to those critics up to this point?

I have no idea. I like following his development on his YouTube vids. And he comes across as humble and hardworking on those vids. I don't follow his Twitter or IG or listen to DG podcasts or anything like that, so I have no idea how he responds to critics.

So if this is a rhetorical question, you are going to have to spell it out for me.

Streets 08-17-2020 08:13 AM

#getfreakybacktothefield

CaptainAnhyzer 08-17-2020 08:37 AM

#lessfreakymorebirdie

robdeforge 08-17-2020 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by autocrosscrx (Post 3620079)
I have no idea. I like following his development on his YouTube vids. And he comes across as humble and hardworking on those vids. I don't follow his Twitter or IG or listen to DG podcasts or anything like that, so I have no idea how he responds to critics.

So if this is a rhetorical question, you are going to have to spell it out for me.

I think you should form your own opinions and them come back and share with the class :) some suggestions

https://twitter.com/Brodiesmith21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoKQcnOySFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ-lx3OQZDM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTX6osNZe68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wwj-OS8KOEg

discerdoo 08-17-2020 12:50 PM

Local shop owner here that's completely turned to shixt by Discraft's inability to deliver product along with their lack of communication about it has commissioned a custom stamp....

GetFu****

True story

Streets 08-17-2020 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by discerdoo (Post 3620146)
Local shop owner here that's completely turned to shixt by Discraft's inability to deliver product along with their lack of communication about it has commissioned a custom stamp....

GetFu****

True story

I'd pay good money for a GetF***** Zone.

Steve West 08-17-2020 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Streets (Post 3620150)
I'd pay good money for a GetF***** Zone.

You can find one in most large cities around the world. I've heard.

R-Ogre 08-17-2020 02:51 PM

I didn’t look that close, but didn’t he more or less throw his rating this weekend? Like, exactly what you would expect someone to do?

Consult20 08-17-2020 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by R-Ogre (Post 3620182)
I didn’t look that close, but didn’t he more or less throw his rating this weekend? Like, exactly what you would expect someone to do?

He averaged 974 so 9 under his rating.

brutalbrutus 08-17-2020 03:39 PM

Seems like he is in that zone around 975-990 where a lot of guys seems to level off at for awhile. I've seen it many a times around here with the local open players. Getting to that 1000 rating seems to take another level of control and consistency that you really have to put in extra work to get to.

Tpro 08-17-2020 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3620101)

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3620197)
Seems like he is in that zone around 975-990 where a lot of guys seems to level off at for awhile. I've seen it many a times around here with the local open players. Getting to that 1000 rating seems to take another level of control and consistency that you really have to put in extra work to get to.

I watched some of each of those clips. I think it’s kinda gut check time for him. Looks like he tried golf but that didn’t work out even though apparently he was pretty good? And dropped it pretty quick. Sounds like he came in thinking it would be a bit easier or he would progress faster. Honestly he is probably right where he should be with his level of athleticism and frisbee background. I still think it’s hilarious that people are like OMG he just started (no he didn’t). That 1000+ bump is pretty hard to get over. To be where he thinks he should be it’s going to take awhile... could be years. With all of that being said... The guy sure does seem to want to change the game a lot.

dehaas 08-17-2020 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3620197)
Seems like he is in that zone around 975-990 where a lot of guys seems to level off at for awhile. I've seen it many a times around here with the local open players. Getting to that 1000 rating seems to take another level of control and consistency that you really have to put in extra work to get to.

I’d expect some of making that next step to 1000+ is also knowing your strengths and weaknesses and using those to wisely choose the events you play? The top tier pros will follow the payout, but for now I wouldn’t expect Brodie to be relying on tournament winnings to get him by. Sure you wanna see how you stack up against the best, but at the same time if you’re playing events at courses that don’t mesh with your style it’s going to be tough to be happy with your performance. Not necessarily saying that’s a legit excuse to not improve the weak parts in his game, but being smart about where you play can have an impact on finishes and ratings.

I don’t play a ton of dg anymore and am focusing most of my free time in the trail/ultra running scene, but it’s the same principle. Even with something as simple as running you have strengths and weaknesses. Knowing the race profile ahead of time and how that fits into your style is a key aspect, especially at longer distances when there’s a lot more strategy involved.

As far as “bigger” tournaments left this year, what else is left that he’d be possibly skipping? USDGC, but for the moment he hasn’t qualified correct? So the statement of skipping bigger events might seem like a big deal right now, but were in reality ones he wasn’t planning on playing anyway?

brutalbrutus 08-17-2020 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dehaas (Post 3620219)
As far as “bigger” tournaments left this year, what else is left that he’d be possibly skipping? USDGC, but for the moment he hasn’t qualified correct? So the statement of skipping bigger events might seem like a big deal right now, but were in reality ones he wasn’t planning on playing anyway?

There's still three DGPT tour events, Green Mountain, Maple hill and Jonesboro plus the championship. He obviously isn't going to qualify for the championship but the tour stops are still "big" events... and at this point, he is still signed up for GMC. He's also signed up for a couple A-tiers that were rescheduled from early in the season. One that Paul is also playing, Jacksonville Open and The Open in Texas.

TheirTheir 08-17-2020 06:30 PM

He can bomb and he can putt. All in 8 months. He will be a solid disc golfer at a faster rate than just about anyone who has played the game. Is he yet? No. Is he on the path to being one? Yes.

Tpro 08-17-2020 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheirTheir (Post 3620266)
He can bomb and he can putt. All in 8 months. He will be a solid disc golfer at a faster rate than just about anyone who has played the game. Is he yet? No. Is he on the path to being one? Yes.

Not all in 8 months lol quit saying that... it’s just simply not the case bruh.

TheirTheir 08-17-2020 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tpro (Post 3620277)
Not all in 8 months lol quit saying that... it’s just simply not the case bruh.

What’s the case then bruh?

Tpro 08-17-2020 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheirTheir (Post 3620298)
What’s the case then bruh?

Well he’s been selling dark horse buzzzes for the better part of five years... Not to mention doing a trick shot video with Avery some 8 years ago. So for people to think that 8 months ago he was like oh man I’ll try this Discgolf thing is just ridiculous. He’s got all the tools to be good, he’s a top notch frisbee thrower. I just don’t buy he just started a few months ago. In one podcast he talks about having a 10x KC Aviar. Kenny won his 12th in ‘06. Should I continue or do you kinda see where I’m going here?


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