Apparently so ☹️

I've had the same Inertia in the bag for most of the last year and haven't had issues. Kinda hard to commit to gyro when you don't know if the rim will hold up.

By soft rimmed I mean can you indent it with your thumbnail?

All the tough gryo discs I have, I have not been able to leave an indentation by pressing my thumbnail into the overmold.

I really like the Relay/Volt combo. It comes from the old school approach of having one slow glidey neutral to understable mold paired with another disc that resists turn and fades reliably with enough glide to stay flat and fade forward. The Leo and Teebird is the most classic example, but there are dozens of incarnations these days.

Besides the Relay/Volt being a great 1-2 punch stability-wise, the Volt will do the Relay's lines fairly well in headwinds/crosswinds. I also carry a heavy Impulse which feels and flies like a beat Volt and a Wrath for longer understable and harder fading shots.

How heavy are your fission photon's? And yes I have had similar issues with my 143's. I bag a Crave and Volt for those days. Last tourney I played in the wind last fall I changed my bag up.. Added the Crave. Then in the spring I played in Gale force winds and there was no saving my round. Ended up underpowering a Mayhem and using the Volt and afterwards bought a heavier proton sparkle Inertia.

Ponder.. If you haven't tried the Crave put one beside your Relay, Neutron or Proton.. I've found they make a tight combo. Volt is also good but it need to go 300ish to be appropriately powered up. Crave can do any distance.

This is probably from too much weighting agent as MVP tries to find a balance between gyro performance and durability. Personally I've always liked the feel and flight of thicker flat or slightly concave wings on discs, which is partially why I bought into the idea of weighted overmolds so early. I may be talking out of my ass here, but it also seems that a thin nosed mold like the Tesla would need a lot of weight in the overmold to fly as intended without lacking carry/fading early.

Yes. Makes sense re:octane mayhem if not throwing with a ton of power. Nitro will be much more OS. I didn't really like it at all vs the octane or mayhem and the photon for OS/hyzer distance stuff or skips etc.

I have a couple faster discs in my bag for utility duties but my main DD's are photons and Waves. I got short fingers for a bigger guy, so I never really could get a grip on anything 12speed or faster. Messed around with Terns for awhile but the Photon/Wave class just fits my hands perfectly. I never felt like I was handicapping myself self. Plus I have a friend who's got a 500+ arm and I've seen him throw them well over that. That class has plenty of distance in it...

I can't remember AIM, was that orbital shot on vid?

I agree with Aim about the Nitro, its a cow. Unless you have 450+ power, have a power flex FH or buy a very light one, you wont be able to get much out of it. I have one in the bag for utility shots. FHs, low skipping hyzers or sometimes around here when its 30+ wind.

Right now I'm experimenting with an even more trimmed back lineup which is:

Atom (x3)
Electron medium for putting only
Beat electron firm for US putter/mid (Theory replacement)
Seasoned neutron for straight/stable line-holder (tangent replacement)

Matrix
Proton Max Weight as a workhorse mid + OS putt/approach duties

Relay
Neutron 150 class for US mid and fairway duties + my woods workhorse for FH shot shaping, standstill turnovers, quick thumbers, uphill shots, everything a smooth anny or FH won't hit.

Crave
Plasma 170's Workhorse stable fairway holding lines and straight shots

Inertia x2
Flat seasoned neutron straight turnovers and lazy hyzer flips. Annys that need to hold but flatten a bit. Uphill skip shots.
Domed fresh neutron for long smooth turnovers that need to hold, rollers.

Wrath x2
Proton 166 and 175 for stable/OS ranged shots/hyzers + moderate winds

Fireball
Plasma 168 General OS duties (headwind/skips)

Octane
Seasoned Neutron 169 Wide open holes - pure max distance drives

My Octane will flip at 400'+ of power into anything more than a mild headwind though, so something that will fly a similar line as an octane in 30mph headwinds would be useful to me and pretty much cover everything I could want. Long tailwind bomber can be handled by an excite thrown in the bag or a vanish easily enough or even the fission photons.

Although I've had a summer of breaking personal bests distance-wise on local courses rotating the speed 13 lineup of Catalyst/Mayhem/Octane' finding the right mold and disc including backups had been frustrating. My best stable distance bombers have been two domey stiff Proton Catalysts @ 173-174 blue and magenta with local tourney stamp. These discs can take my hardest flat rip and go straight forever before a nice predictable and forward gliding fade. They hold up in moderate headwinds as well. Unfortunately I lost one in a flooded creek and now depend heavily on my other. The other 2 domey Catalysts I have (plasma and stock Proton) are flippy AF. Like Nuke SS flippy. I like flippy discs and I still can't use these. I Have 1 Neutron that is nicely in between that flips from hyzer and holds (as long as no bad wind hits). I'm realizing the ones I like maybe freaks.

Mayhems have been crazy as well. I have had a couple Protons that were stable to start, but lost that pretty fast. Same with my Neutrons. And the new ones at the store are super domey with the noses and PLHs sagging low.

I have 2 Octanes now and I think this mold is probably going to give me the best shot at the stability I'm looking for going forward. One is a 168 Plasma/Proton mix and the other a 174 stock Proton and they fly very similar. They aren't as stable as my good Catalysts, but are much more consistent at turning and coming back.

Dude...those are the best ones!