fair enough lets move this on

I actually always wondered how much fun a 120's fizz ion would be. Seems like a hoot lol

Is it okay to ask about Pilots in this thread? I can never tell with you Gyros...

Considering

1. How much time is spent here talking about Wasps and Comets
2. How dead the streamline thread is

I would say yes. Now where either you get a coherent answer or not is a different question.

Okay then...on putts are they glidey/straight flyers?

wtf is streamline

I think so, as in, YES in my opinion.

Fresh they have decent glide but a reliable mild fade at the end, I'm a pretty firm spin putter here. Probably start fading at 25-30 on softer putts and 30-35 with harder putts. As they get a few rounds on them they'll develop more float and straighten out a bit, my sweet spot is two weeks to 5-6 months and then they're holding straighter than I like. I'd recommend high 160's for a little more glide and straightness; still fight the wind really well with their shape. I love the feel in my hand (deep enough to get a good grip but still shallow) and I have relatively small hands. I putt with a power grip if it matters at all. Neutrons off the tee in the 160's have decent glide from the start but reeeaaaallllyyy pick up the glide after a couple weeks of wear. Hit an elevated basket from 270 with one holding a floaty flipped up hyzer. Neutron max weight is straight to 1 fade at the end with good glide.
Experience: use electron pilots as primary putters for two years, neutron off the tee for a month

i think theyre in between ion and challenger for glide and fade

This has probably been posted a million times in this thread but I'm too lazy to read thousands of pages.

Whats the deal with MVP? I don't know anything about them. I've never bought one. I fondled one at the store recently, not sure what to make of it. They seem to have a love/hate thing going. Their discs seem to have 2 different plastic types - that sounds like they might have a good thing until I hit a tree and my disc falls apart. And their discs cost more than other brands.

What is it that makes MVP different?