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Jacobpaul81 05-27-2020 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ThrowaEnvy (Post 3589872)
You said you're tried em all.. So I assume you've tried a it in fission.. My experience with the plasma 157 tesla is they're board flat, not glidey and real beefy with the HSS. Throws flat to fade and when it's done it has a last minute pop up to a high panning hyzer fade. It's a Resistor/ Deflector kinda distance for me.. So short.

My 162 fission has a big dome, it has a bit of turn, bit of fade, it sets down a little flatter and has a long glide, it's my longest forehand disc. Even at 5g heavier it's more controllable, it will ride a reasonably long anhyzer in a tight forced straight line before biting back.

A buddy of mine, I don't know how old but he's been playing for 40 yrs, has a 149(?) Fission Tesla, he throws polecats, leopards etc.. His is beautifully straight and his longest disc by far. He picked it up and gained 40-50' easy.

Yep. I've had similar findings. Fission was straighter and more glide. Plasma flew like an FL: No glide, No turn, Hard fade. I ran into warping issues with Fission - these were pfn - where the wings would bend down or up causing inconsistent flight. That's when I moved to all Neutron. I agree with you fresh Fission probably is the closest to my desired flight - maybe 9 4 -1 1 - possibly 9 5 -1 1. The 150 Neutrons I've currently got are like 9 4 -1 2. I bought a pile of the 150 PDGA stamped ones - I found them to all be in that FL / Firebird 3 glide range.

Jacobpaul81 05-27-2020 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by funguy (Post 3589884)
I find that the Fission Tesla (especially 166+ PFN) fit this bill. With all the plastics and runs, the Tesla can fit just about any shot. Fission, especially sub 155, fly like Inertias off the shelf. Fission Teslas over 160g are super straight with some fade. Plasma Teslas for the most part are super FAF with almost no glide but throw like a beat in Motion. They fill that forehand and headwind shot (much like a good beat in Firebird). Neutron Teslas can run the gamut. I have FAF ones and some with a heartbeat dome. Go by feel on these. I tend not to bag Neutron Teslas. Proton Teslas are also FAF for the most part but have more glide than the Plasma ones for some reason. I have an early run FX Proton that is nice and gummy and holds up well to a headwind. I also bag 3 Fission Teslas and if I need a easy turnover shot from hyzer I will bag a 130-class Fission Tesla.

We have very similar findings. I ran into warping issues with the pfn Fission which is why I'm all neutron. The plasma were glideless - flew like an FL - which makes no sense cause the Plasma Inertias I've had have more glide than their Neutron counterpart. :doh:

jakebake91 05-27-2020 09:16 AM

What flight #'s are you guys seeking? It almost sounds like you seek a Wrath.

funguy 05-27-2020 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacobpaul81 (Post 3590450)
We have very similar findings. I ran into warping issues with the pfn Fission which is why I'm all neutron. The plasma were glideless - flew like an FL - which makes no sense cause the Plasma Inertias I've had have more glide than their Neutron counterpart. :doh:

I have not had an issue with warping with Fission Teslas, and I they are my main driver off the tee. Fission Photons, especially 2nd run through end of PFN runs, tend to clover and warp really easily. Fission Volts, like Teslas, have been pretty solid with no warping despite being thrown in the woods pretty exclusively. Electron on the other hand, has had lots of issues with warping, especially the early runs. The newer runs have been a bit better. While I like Neutron Teslas, I find it easier to get some HSS from the Fission Teslas. The glide also increases the more they are beat in. I also carry an FX Proton Tesla that is nice and worked in now. This is a great headwind disc but not much glide on it accept in a headwind. Like you said, I find Plasma Teslas to be pretty OS with little glide. I could see replacing my Proton Tesla with a Plasma. They might beat in to have more glide.

funguy 05-27-2020 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jakebake91 (Post 3590481)
What flight #'s are you guys seeking? It almost sounds like you seek a Wrath.

The Wrath isn't that much different than a beat in Neutron Tesla. Unlike the Tesla, most Wraths are pretty board flat. The only Wrath haven't thrown are the newer Prism ones. I heard that these were more US. I am also trying to cut down on the number of molds that I carry and instead rely on plastics, weights, and unique runs to get variance in flight. There is more plastic variety with the Tesla and I just love Fission -- yes it has its issues -- but I love the PFN stuff and luckily have a bunch for back-ups so for now I am sticking with it. Plus all black gyro just looks better in the bag.

Jacobpaul81 05-27-2020 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jakebake91 (Post 3590481)
What flight #'s are you guys seeking? It almost sounds like you seek a Wrath.

If only MVPs flight numbers were remotely accurate on the Wrath / Tesla. :hfive:

I don't really think many of the Teslas are 9 5 -1 +2. I think most fly 9 4 0 2 or even 9 3 0 2. It's a VERY inconsistent disc.

The Wraths i've thrown fell into two camps - at 167, they had more glide but hard finish fade. Like 9 4 0 2. At 157, they were more FL-like than a 157 plasma Tesla. Easily 9 3 0 3. Even by MVP's numbers 9 5 -.5 2 it's more OS than the Tesla.


I've consistently thought there's a mold missing in-between the Tesla and Inertia. A 9 5 -1 1 or 9 5 0 0 or 9 5 0 1 or something along those lines. A turn and fade resistent inertia with a crap ton of glide. It's one of those things I'll probably never see. Nit-picking. :p

wolfmandragon 05-27-2020 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacobpaul81 (Post 3590535)
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A turn and fade resistent inertia with a crap ton of glide. It's one of those things I'll probably never see. Nit-picking. :p

They made that. First run Neutron Inertias.... oh how I wish I had known and bought a stack of those.

funguy 05-27-2020 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfmandragon (Post 3590537)
They made that. First run Neutron Inertias.... oh how I wish I had known and bought a stack of those.

Thatís why I like the 165g+ Fission Teslas. They fly like the OG Inertias. Those were a beautiful disc off the shelf.

ThrowaEnvy 05-27-2020 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfmandragon (Post 3590537)
They made that. First run Neutron Inertias.... oh how I wish I had known and bought a stack of those.

Aaah that's the piece of the puzzle I'm missing, I got 3, 2 are FR for sure, third is just as good pfn.. 155,57 and 160g.. Got a sparkle proton as well and a couple heavy newer runs at 172/3 that are gummy and not as stable except for the weight makes that up.

Jacobpaul81 05-27-2020 06:19 PM

Well crap. Now I gotta find a PFN 157 Neutron Inertia. Darn it!


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