Yep. I've had similar findings. Fission was straighter and more glide. Plasma flew like an FL: No glide, No turn, Hard fade. I ran into warping issues with Fission - these were pfn - where the wings would bend down or up causing inconsistent flight. That's when I moved to all Neutron. I agree with you fresh Fission probably is the closest to my desired flight - maybe 9 4 -1 1 - possibly 9 5 -1 1. The 150 Neutrons I've currently got are like 9 4 -1 2. I bought a pile of the 150 PDGA stamped ones - I found them to all be in that FL / Firebird 3 glide range.

We have very similar findings. I ran into warping issues with the pfn Fission which is why I'm all neutron. The plasma were glideless - flew like an FL - which makes no sense cause the Plasma Inertias I've had have more glide than their Neutron counterpart. :doh:

What flight #'s are you guys seeking? It almost sounds like you seek a Wrath.

I have not had an issue with warping with Fission Teslas, and I they are my main driver off the tee. Fission Photons, especially 2nd run through end of PFN runs, tend to clover and warp really easily. Fission Volts, like Teslas, have been pretty solid with no warping despite being thrown in the woods pretty exclusively. Electron on the other hand, has had lots of issues with warping, especially the early runs. The newer runs have been a bit better. While I like Neutron Teslas, I find it easier to get some HSS from the Fission Teslas. The glide also increases the more they are beat in. I also carry an FX Proton Tesla that is nice and worked in now. This is a great headwind disc but not much glide on it accept in a headwind. Like you said, I find Plasma Teslas to be pretty OS with little glide. I could see replacing my Proton Tesla with a Plasma. They might beat in to have more glide.

The Wrath isn't that much different than a beat in Neutron Tesla. Unlike the Tesla, most Wraths are pretty board flat. The only Wrath haven't thrown are the newer Prism ones. I heard that these were more US. I am also trying to cut down on the number of molds that I carry and instead rely on plastics, weights, and unique runs to get variance in flight. There is more plastic variety with the Tesla and I just love Fission -- yes it has its issues -- but I love the PFN stuff and luckily have a bunch for back-ups so for now I am sticking with it. Plus all black gyro just looks better in the bag.

If only MVPs flight numbers were remotely accurate on the Wrath / Tesla. :hfive:

I don't really think many of the Teslas are 9 5 -1 +2. I think most fly 9 4 0 2 or even 9 3 0 2. It's a VERY inconsistent disc.

The Wraths i've thrown fell into two camps - at 167, they had more glide but hard finish fade. Like 9 4 0 2. At 157, they were more FL-like than a 157 plasma Tesla. Easily 9 3 0 3. Even by MVP's numbers 9 5 -.5 2 it's more OS than the Tesla.


I've consistently thought there's a mold missing in-between the Tesla and Inertia. A 9 5 -1 1 or 9 5 0 0 or 9 5 0 1 or something along those lines. A turn and fade resistent inertia with a crap ton of glide. It's one of those things I'll probably never see. Nit-picking. :p

They made that. First run Neutron Inertias.... oh how I wish I had known and bought a stack of those.

That’s why I like the 165g+ Fission Teslas. They fly like the OG Inertias. Those were a beautiful disc off the shelf.

Aaah that's the piece of the puzzle I'm missing, I got 3, 2 are FR for sure, third is just as good pfn.. 155,57 and 160g.. Got a sparkle proton as well and a couple heavy newer runs at 172/3 that are gummy and not as stable except for the weight makes that up.

Well crap. Now I gotta find a PFN 157 Neutron Inertia. Darn it!