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Originally Posted by PMantle
(Post 3825115)
The TK review is out on the Zenith. Man am I ever disappointed. Left of the Photon which I have always felt was too far from the Wave. Oh well.
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I wouldn't necessarily write it off that quickly. I heard about the Terra, hated what it sounds like it was, then tried one because the SE stamp was legit and instantly loved it, especially into the wind.
I feel like more of a mortal than some of the vloggers out there, but I'm no slouch. I can throw a wave 400-450, I can throw my envy 250-280... but the photon is 11 5 -1 2.5, right? I bought it thinking it would be a good compliment to the wave but they always felt OS to me. I had a 169g Neutron (2019), i bought two fission photons (155g, 170g) and most recently bought another Neutron (169g). At no point did it feel good in my hand, at no point could i even get the -1 turn. The 155g photon came the closest, I think I was able to eek out a -0.5 turn on full rips where it was carrying 380-400. But man I really had to rip to get it to do that, no where near the S flights that people talk about. Maybe I release on a tad bit hyzer? idk, but I think I throw it pretty flat.
Bottom line, I could throw Fireballs/Firebirds/Predators etc., to pretty much the same spot in the field as the photon. Most days the photon was straight for about 30-40% and then started hyzering out hard to the left.
For a while I used CN and Plasma Traces and that filled the 11 speed gap well enough but then I tried a fission wave and it was amazing so I bagged that and eventually bagged a 2 Zeus(es) to cover the left finishing shots. The Zeus is OK, really nothing against it but I bought a fission octane and dropped one zeus and then tried a proton octane and dropped the other.
But still missing that left finishing speed 11 disc and was much anticipating the arrival of the Zenith. I bought two today, 173g and 169g and they are sweet. The feel a bit similar to the photon, the way the rim hits my knuckles and the curve to the flight plate to give it that nice fade at the end. But it's a more muted feel, altogether more comfortable than the Photon.
As far as flight goes I definitely could see the -0.5, a heck of a lot more consistently than the photon's purported -1. I even had a couple flip up just barely. But the biggest difference was that I could immediately start hitting the 380-420' range on my first throws. That was something I could barely, if ever (read 1 time with a 155g Photon). It does have a very consistent fade and I wouldn't call it small.
I've never vibed with discs like the Eagle/Tesla/Photon but have loved discs like the Teebird/Volt and now Zenith.
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Originally Posted by PMantle
(Post 3825115)
If I had more into the wind drives, I would get one. I just rarely have to deal with that. I will monitor in case there's any kind of trend re: dome, color, plastic etc..
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For me, even without wind, the wave can be pretty flippy and so can my fission Octane. So I have a proton Octane and these Neutron Zenith's to give me that dependable left fade without worrying it will flip over. i did see one today in my local shop, all black with a gold stamp and it was sickkkk...but i just can't buy discs that I am not going to throw so I passed on it. May regret that one later.