The glitch is intriguing but given the weight range it will be offered in I don't think I will be putting one in my bag right now. I'm still waiting to see something for the Entropy...eclipse? soft neutron? electron? anything?

Every manufacturer is pushing their overstable approach discs with special blends or a larger variety of plastic types (toro, zone, harp, etc.). I'm honestly about to pull the trigger on a VIP harp and BT Medium harp as they are both available at my local store, where the Entropy has been run in electron maybe twice? and the last time was over a year ago at this point...It just seems odd to not give the entropy any type of love with the plastics they have available.

Yeah I'm kinda surprised they didn't run the electron entropy again after JC's ace last year.. The envy was guaranteed but if you watch how much he threw the electron entropy it was often. They maybe should have run a few less commemorative envy and done a run of electron entropy.

I don't use my entropy very often, I've got one 168 SE, good disc, I usually pull it out for the winter winds. I haven't seen another light one in any of the new runs.

I think a lot of people will avoid the glitch because of the weight, but I'm guessing with the overmold a light weight must have been the only way for it to work out as a glidey touch disc, the video I saw it still had a solid fade after a long nose up straight shot. If people want a heavy lid kind of disc they have the uplink and the paradox. The glitch will be more polecat kind of fun.

I guess that means maybe the Watt is going to be uber stable?

Last week I picked up my first Cosmic a Photon and its far more overstable than the Fission Photon that fades and I've had for a few months. The Cosmic has some good skip and will be useful for those sharp doglegs on wooded courses.

Yes, the numbers are the same and the Maverick has replaced my Leopard. I may end up staying with my non-gyro discs, but I sure have been enjoying my gyro ones and that's why I'm considering going to an all gyro bag if I can get replacements for the discs I throw backhand with.

I think you may struggle to find dome if that really is important to you. I really like the feel of the Terra in hand because it is a shade deeper than most MVP discs and really helps get a good grip on the disc.

Also...if you replaced the leopard with the maverick, I am not sure replacing the Maverick with a volt is right move. Leopards (at least for me) are pretty flippy and the volt handles a lot more like a hybrid between the teebird and thunderbird. Relays/Craves/Drift, etc are all a bit closer to what the Leopard is although Relay's can start out surprisingly stable and the Craves are not quite as understable as the Leopard.

I throw a mainly all gyro bag for a few different reasons...but MVP is having an odd year. They have gotten the Terra and Zenith out there which is great. They've gotten us a lot of discs in fission plastic which is great. But no tour series discs, no electron entropy, not as many glow discs (like...where the heck is the eclipse volt at? I know they did a 1.0 but where is the 2.0?) as I would have expected. They've done so well closing the gap between themselves and the big three but they seem a bit stagant this year.

Relay is the answer, according to leopard and numbers. Given your distance it would also fill a lot of roles if it feels like it has dome to you..it doesn't have much in neutron... the cosmic seems flatter.

Volt is still good but maybe not quite a direct replacement.

Did you get any new discs yet?

I went to the disc store where I was planning on picking up some new discs (they also have three of my 'found' discs), but they were unexpectedly closed for the day. So I'm going out there Saturday.

I'm planning on picking up a Fission Volt and now a Relay....I'll 'handle' their Relays to see what feels best in my hand for throwing backhands. But ultimately, I may end up sticking with what I have since you and others have pointed out that gyro really doesn't come in domey versions. But I will see what I can find and I am interested in trying a Volt and Relay. The Volt is actually seeming to be a disc in between my Falk and Maverick....and might end up being one disc that fills both spots. But, I have to get one and field test it.

I have a domey Volt. I would say it flies like a beefy Thunderbird. I actually pulled the Felon out of my bag for a bit and was using that Volt instead. My flat Volts are more like slightly longer Teebirds.

I would agree with this. I basically use mine as a shorter Thunderbird. I use my volt out to about 290 and the Thunderbird out to around 340.

I saw a post on Skulboy FB apparently he's so taken with his proto glitch he's throwing around some black cat kinda designs maybe with laser eyes haha.